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How do YOU obtain your music? Posted on: 11.06.2012 by Shakita Salansky Personally, I'm a part of ZipDJ, a $50 a month record pool service. I'm still pretty new, and am looking for maybe alternatives. I've always been told record pools would be the best deal financially, however sometimes lacking in song selection. So my question to you all is, How do you get your music? Any feedback is thankful.
Will Spinello 12.09.2012	Originally Posted by ekwipt Boomkats great for some unreleased stuff that i can't find on Beatport, but you can't by AIFF/FLAC as single tracks or is it just some releases I don't know, to to be honest. I always buy the full release. Quite often the full price for a FLAC e.p From boomkat isn't far off what a wav of a single track can cost on BP.
Rochel Gleese 12.09.2012	Originally Posted by Thumper Boomkat and Juno for digital. Very, very occasionally Beatport because although they sometimes have stuff I can't get anywhere else I simply don't like buying stuff there. Boomkat and Juno again for vinyl, with Rubadub, a couple of places in Edinburgh and second hand shops thrown in as well. Boomkat rocks. Boomkats great for some unreleased stuff that i can't find on Beatport, but you can't by AIFF/FLAC as single tracks or is it just some releases
Celine Surico 12.09.2012	Originally Posted by DeanOakley I use Beatport mainly but have considered DJ pools but found that most don't really cater for my preferred genre of deep house, is DJCity any good for this particular genre? Also, has anyone got any decent recommendations for deep house blogs? Thanks Not blogs but for deep house, check stompy.com.
Tera Baragan 12.09.2012	Originally Posted by itsbentheboy i torrent, but the music i spin is mostly underground things from unsigned artists, where their only chance to get music out is put a torrent on their blog or something. i usually get all my music i need from blogs and free promos. just look deeper, and you will find undiscovered artists with free music just begging to be heard. find some good stuff, and you are in business! This right here. I haven't paid for a song yet... but I don't mix mainstream or popular songs. I spend my time looking for the dude with 100 followers and the sickest tunes u have ever heard.
Lashawn Maycock 26.07.2012	Originally Posted by Tommi Bass Word.. even back in the day of vinyl only for djing.. i was super fussy and would only get 40 new tracks per month and listen to about 200 or so. There is a lot of crap......... today but when you find a gem it last longer. My current playlists have taken me years to aquire and I work for labels....... lol The quality really is out there but is seldom promoted and falls by the wayside. Again, I'm going to have to agree with you, doing a lot of that this AM! During my vinyl buying days (which I sorely miss for the interaction, comradery and the promo stuff they put behind the counter for you ) I would buy around 10 12"s a week but would listen to a lot more; because of the price point you tended to be much more critical which meant the collection quality was maintained to some extent. It's very easy to buy digital tracks for comparatively little cost now and there is a lot more to go through BUT when you get that great track it does stick around. The thrill of the chase has gone for me now and what would bubble up as promos at WMC and in Ibiza, to be released in Autumn doesn't seem to happen so much now. It's virtually instant access and many DJ's sound the same just by buying the chart tracks. I find the trick is to delve a little deeper. I'm v jealous of your position working for labels!! That's definitely got to be the best way along with producing to get hold of exclusive/future tracks. Don't suppose you can divulge what labels they are? Looking at your signature, we probably play similar styles of music. Cheers.
Emely Metz 25.07.2012	Originally Posted by hola amigos This is good thread, i like to check out other sources for music. Im mainly a trance fan and electro house so anything where you can preview music for free helps me select tracks. Never heard of juno ima go check that out now, thanks for the recommendation. i'm liking chemical records previewing style because it features almost full length of a track, i can dump a lot of releases in my playlist & re-listen to them over & over again before committing to buy... yes they do sell as mp3 too if i'm not mistaken...but i'm not interested to buy music in digital form since i'm not always careful in keeping them, they get lost somewhere in HDD or some of the CD-R. it's meh imo, i prefer physical thing to hold in my hands.
Allan Neubert 25.07.2012	Originally Posted by KS2 I'm on Juno now and when I click buy I'm only seeing 192mp3, 320mp3 and WAV but no FLAC? Is there anything worth knowing about FLAC if I do get them (if I can find them)? After you buy the tracks (WAV) and go to download them it will give you the option of compressing as FLAC files. FLAC is a lossless compression, open source and pretty widely used (Serato and Apple products excepted). Think of FLAC as zip for audio files. A FLAC file is generally about 1/2 the size of the WAV/AIFF. If you're using Traktor then it has FLAC support built in (although the tag support is not as good as it is with MP3), if you're using Serato then you have to convert as it doesn't support FLAC (last I checked anyway). If you want to use the tracks with iTunes you'll also have to convert. Most music I use isn't available digitally, but the little that is I buy as FLAC from Juno. The rest of my paid music is all vinyl rips (also FLAC). (I also get a fair amount of free from Soundcloud, but there you get whatever the producer uploaded.)
Germaine Bernadin 25.07.2012	Originally Posted by backtothefront Traxsource, Juno and sometimes iTunes... given up on Beatport, too much chaff gets in the way. Word.. even back in the day of vinyl only for djing.. i was super fussy and would only get 40 new tracks per month and listen to about 200 or so. There is a lot of crap......... today but when you find a gem it last longer. My current playlists have taken me years to aquire and I work for labels....... lol The quality really is out there but is seldom promoted and falls by the wayside.
Latina Samon 25.07.2012	Originally Posted by frequencym FLAC files support tags including artwork, yes. Juno puts art in the files and also allows you to download art separately. The separate art is of substantially higher resolution. I'm on Juno now and when I click buy I'm only seeing 192mp3, 320mp3 and WAV but no FLAC? Is there anything worth knowing about FLAC if I do get them (if I can find them)?
Allan Neubert 25.07.2012	Originally Posted by KS2 I was after cover art too though....does FLAC come with it? FLAC files support tags including artwork, yes. Juno puts art in the files and also allows you to download art separately. The separate art is of substantially higher resolution.
Will Spinello 12.09.2012	Originally Posted by ekwipt Boomkats great for some unreleased stuff that i can't find on Beatport, but you can't by AIFF/FLAC as single tracks or is it just some releases I don't know, to to be honest. I always buy the full release. Quite often the full price for a FLAC e.p From boomkat isn't far off what a wav of a single track can cost on BP.
Rochel Gleese 12.09.2012	Originally Posted by Thumper Boomkat and Juno for digital. Very, very occasionally Beatport because although they sometimes have stuff I can't get anywhere else I simply don't like buying stuff there. Boomkat and Juno again for vinyl, with Rubadub, a couple of places in Edinburgh and second hand shops thrown in as well. Boomkat rocks. Boomkats great for some unreleased stuff that i can't find on Beatport, but you can't by AIFF/FLAC as single tracks or is it just some releases
Celine Surico 12.09.2012	Originally Posted by DeanOakley I use Beatport mainly but have considered DJ pools but found that most don't really cater for my preferred genre of deep house, is DJCity any good for this particular genre? Also, has anyone got any decent recommendations for deep house blogs? Thanks Not blogs but for deep house, check stompy.com.
Will Spinello 12.09.2012	Boomkat and Juno for digital. Very, very occasionally Beatport because although they sometimes have stuff I can't get anywhere else I simply don't like buying stuff there. Boomkat and Juno again for vinyl, with Rubadub, a couple of places in Edinburgh and second hand shops thrown in as well. Boomkat rocks.
Loyd Cilek 12.09.2012	I use Beatport mainly but have considered DJ pools but found that most don't really cater for my preferred genre of deep house, is DJCity any good for this particular genre? Also, has anyone got any decent recommendations for deep house blogs? Thanks
Tera Baragan 12.09.2012	Originally Posted by itsbentheboy i torrent, but the music i spin is mostly underground things from unsigned artists, where their only chance to get music out is put a torrent on their blog or something. i usually get all my music i need from blogs and free promos. just look deeper, and you will find undiscovered artists with free music just begging to be heard. find some good stuff, and you are in business! This right here. I haven't paid for a song yet... but I don't mix mainstream or popular songs. I spend my time looking for the dude with 100 followers and the sickest tunes u have ever heard.
Charmaine Oss 12.09.2012	I enquired about zipDJ, numerous times and it seems that they haven't been receiving my messages! Then I signed up to DJ City, over 2 weeks ago. Customer support is great, but there is no sub-genre categories, i.e for House music. There's just a section called 'House/electro'. I have to visit other music sites to find the exact sub-genre for each track. Do you guys and gurls have to do the same? For all these music pool websites, they all say, 'for professional DJ/producer/people' only. Don't they wanna generate more income? In what ways could people 'misuse' the system? Since I sent many messages to zipDJ, I believe to two different emails and Facebook, there was one staff replying that Im not qualified, and others giving me further details on joining. That's my story.
Brinda Tidrick 26.07.2012	All about Beatport for MP3's, and Chemical Records if I ever buy vinyl.
Tobi Mastbergen 26.07.2012	can you get unreleased stuff off zipdj?
Jesusa Throckmorton 26.07.2012	This is great information and I want to thank the people who took the time to share how they obtain their music. I was using amazon, itunes, or beatport before. Now I've added about 4 more sites to that rotation
Lashawn Maycock 26.07.2012	Originally Posted by Tommi Bass Word.. even back in the day of vinyl only for djing.. i was super fussy and would only get 40 new tracks per month and listen to about 200 or so. There is a lot of crap......... today but when you find a gem it last longer. My current playlists have taken me years to aquire and I work for labels....... lol The quality really is out there but is seldom promoted and falls by the wayside. Again, I'm going to have to agree with you, doing a lot of that this AM! During my vinyl buying days (which I sorely miss for the interaction, comradery and the promo stuff they put behind the counter for you ) I would buy around 10 12"s a week but would listen to a lot more; because of the price point you tended to be much more critical which meant the collection quality was maintained to some extent. It's very easy to buy digital tracks for comparatively little cost now and there is a lot more to go through BUT when you get that great track it does stick around. The thrill of the chase has gone for me now and what would bubble up as promos at WMC and in Ibiza, to be released in Autumn doesn't seem to happen so much now. It's virtually instant access and many DJ's sound the same just by buying the chart tracks. I find the trick is to delve a little deeper. I'm v jealous of your position working for labels!! That's definitely got to be the best way along with producing to get hold of exclusive/future tracks. Don't suppose you can divulge what labels they are? Looking at your signature, we probably play similar styles of music. Cheers.
Emely Metz 25.07.2012	Originally Posted by hola amigos This is good thread, i like to check out other sources for music. Im mainly a trance fan and electro house so anything where you can preview music for free helps me select tracks. Never heard of juno ima go check that out now, thanks for the recommendation. i'm liking chemical records previewing style because it features almost full length of a track, i can dump a lot of releases in my playlist & re-listen to them over & over again before committing to buy... yes they do sell as mp3 too if i'm not mistaken...but i'm not interested to buy music in digital form since i'm not always careful in keeping them, they get lost somewhere in HDD or some of the CD-R. it's meh imo, i prefer physical thing to hold in my hands.
Latina Samon 25.07.2012	Thanks for the info dude. I FINALLY managed to download my AIFF tracks though. Now I have a new problem (may as well ask here) in that Media Monkey can't read them. Whats the best way to edit the ID3 tags for them? I use my Traktor through iTunes by the way. Should I edit in iTunes? Will that save it in the original file?
Allan Neubert 25.07.2012	Originally Posted by KS2 I'm on Juno now and when I click buy I'm only seeing 192mp3, 320mp3 and WAV but no FLAC? Is there anything worth knowing about FLAC if I do get them (if I can find them)? After you buy the tracks (WAV) and go to download them it will give you the option of compressing as FLAC files. FLAC is a lossless compression, open source and pretty widely used (Serato and Apple products excepted). Think of FLAC as zip for audio files. A FLAC file is generally about 1/2 the size of the WAV/AIFF. If you're using Traktor then it has FLAC support built in (although the tag support is not as good as it is with MP3), if you're using Serato then you have to convert as it doesn't support FLAC (last I checked anyway). If you want to use the tracks with iTunes you'll also have to convert. Most music I use isn't available digitally, but the little that is I buy as FLAC from Juno. The rest of my paid music is all vinyl rips (also FLAC). (I also get a fair amount of free from Soundcloud, but there you get whatever the producer uploaded.)
Germaine Bernadin 25.07.2012	Originally Posted by backtothefront Traxsource, Juno and sometimes iTunes... given up on Beatport, too much chaff gets in the way. Word.. even back in the day of vinyl only for djing.. i was super fussy and would only get 40 new tracks per month and listen to about 200 or so. There is a lot of crap......... today but when you find a gem it last longer. My current playlists have taken me years to aquire and I work for labels....... lol The quality really is out there but is seldom promoted and falls by the wayside.
Latina Samon 25.07.2012	Originally Posted by frequencym FLAC files support tags including artwork, yes. Juno puts art in the files and also allows you to download art separately. The separate art is of substantially higher resolution. I'm on Juno now and when I click buy I'm only seeing 192mp3, 320mp3 and WAV but no FLAC? Is there anything worth knowing about FLAC if I do get them (if I can find them)?
Allan Neubert 25.07.2012	Originally Posted by KS2 I was after cover art too though....does FLAC come with it? FLAC files support tags including artwork, yes. Juno puts art in the files and also allows you to download art separately. The separate art is of substantially higher resolution.
Latina Samon 25.07.2012	Hey why don't you extend some of that community spirit over this way?
Germaine Bernadin 25.07.2012	I'm on various DJ VIP Promo Pools, plus I'm signed to a few labels so I get a lot of tracks if I want each month and I'm in personal contact with many producers. We are a strong communtiy and respect each others art and support each other, there is no room for ego and fickle fame in our game. For some its just EDM, for us its a way of life for over twenty years. Genres: Minimal/Tech Deep House and U.K Garage/Future Garage.
Latina Samon 25.07.2012	I was after cover art too though....does FLAC come with it?
Allan Neubert 25.07.2012	For lossless in general you can get them from Juno, but I believe it's wav/flac only so you'd have to convert yourself.
Latina Samon 25.07.2012	Where else can I get AIFF from or is it just Beatport? For some reason BP is declining my transactions and it's doing my head in.
Danae Dumler 27.06.2012	Sorry to beat a dead thread but I found a nice round-up of responses to that Emily White/guy from Cracker thing; much more detail than the one I posted previously. It's a really good read and unpacks how a lot of the so-called facts about "filesharing" are just flat out wrong. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...s-models.shtml
Dj LsEx 22.06.2012	I run Soundcloud feeds and podcasts while I work. I take notes of what I like, and I buy digital to encourage the distribution of the only relevant music publishing medium left on the planet. I do enjoy vinyl LP's, 10's and 7's, but I've sworn off buying any of these formats for the past few years of years due to cost... at least until I finish my bachelor's degree and get that fat raise at work. Sometimes I still dig crates at flea markets, thrifts, dumps, and shops for the old, cheap, and workable. Basically, TurntableLab Digital, Juno, and their ilk are my main sources. I don't gig out much anymore, but I'm just too addicted and afraid of missing out on the great modern classics coming out once or twice every year to quit. I used to get my tips on sleeper hits from the SoulStrut community s, but their site was sql injected last year and it ran nasty malware on my work computer just from loading the site one day... been too scared to go back since.
Jolynn Schroyer 22.06.2012	This is good thread, i like to check out other sources for music. Im mainly a trance fan and electro house so anything where you can preview music for free helps me select tracks. Never heard of juno ima go check that out now, thanks for the recommendation.
Roseanna Signorini 21.06.2012	Originally Posted by attila I don't really pay for much music either. Call it entitlement issues or whatnot, but I just don't have the money to buy tracks at this point, especially with beatport charging 2.50 a song. Seems that half the producers I follow tell everyone to pirate their music anyway, and as I put out tracks they're all free as well. Charging for music is an outdated practice, especially in the realm of electronic music where the recording costs hover around $0. I'm extremely stubborn so please don't try to challenge me on this. Of course you're extremely stubborn, you grew up in a world where Mommy and Daddy did everything for you and made sure their little little angel never had a rough day in his entire life. You have been bred to be spoiled so of course you have no sense of value because you have been handed everything. The only people who would feel this way are those looking for something for nothing.
Margie Pavell 21.06.2012	Originally Posted by attila Charging for music is an outdated practice, especially in the realm of electronic music where the recording costs hover around $0. I'm extremely stubborn so please don't try to challenge me on this. what a poor attitude... who are the artists telling you to pirate their music?
Nilsa Erben 21.06.2012	Originally Posted by photojojo Everybody should read this. http://thetrichordist.wordpress.com/...gs-considered/ Insightful and well written article, the blog post the instigated it is fascinating as well...somewhere along the way saw a quote about how the youth today are no longer sticking it to the man, but to the long haired wierdo musicians themselves. I have far too many friends who are musicians or authors to believe that taking music or ebooks is anything less than taking money out of their pockets, and I just won't do that to my friends, or the many many strangers whose music and books I buy and enjoy.
Danae Dumler 21.06.2012	Originally Posted by GIRLCHEESE If it wasn't for free mp3 download the majority of the artists that have risen in the past decade, you would have probably never been exposed to them Suddenly I remember why that Emily White thing annoyed me so much earlier - I used the be a huge fan of Camper van Beethoven in college (the band the guy who wrote that article was in); I would never have heard of them if not for the equivalent of illegal downloading back in the 1980s (this era http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Ta..._Killing_Music). Thanks to bootleg copies of their songs I wound up buying every damn record they put out (in some cases twice if I bought the CD too) and seeing them live several times. I realize the scale is much different with the internet, but I'm not convinced the impact is.
Ricki Markman 21.06.2012	Originally Posted by padi_04 Not if you pay for hardware/software or decent mastering. Labels take care for mastering and I don't consider the ~3000 I put into my studio as a recording cost because I don't pay for studio time. It's a one time investment (minus odd software upgrades), and I can produce whenever I want for free. There's no $30,000 advance that a label has to get a return on, pretty much all revenue is pure profit, especially in the realm of electronic music these days. Almost feels selfish to charge for it because of how little you'd make even if a track does well. It's a slap in the face to listeners imo.

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