Syncing two traktors
Syncing two traktors Posted on: 11.10.2008 by morales morales So has someone sucesfuly synced two traktors with the OSC(open sound control)? I just cant get it to work. No matter witch computer is set to "slave" it cant find the master . Are there some Ethernet setting or something else i need to setup. So did someone get it to work? | |
| Willard Battley 20.09.2012 | Hello guys I found this old thread so I'm adding my questions to this one, I hope it's OK. I would like to DJing with a friend and I've been believeing of syncing our two macbook pro with Traktor 2 (one Pro and one Scratch Pro) together. I have a Traktor S4 and my friend a reloop digital jockey 2 master edition. I had two ideas : - if I put his controller in my Midi thru in the S4 what is going to happen ? Can I use my 4 decks ? And will be able to pre-listen my music through his headphone on his controller and vice-versa ? - Or is better to sync our two Traktor System and connect either our controllers with a MIDI DIN cable or our macbook pro through an ethernet cable ? Can we still use our 4 decks each and pre-listen to the music of the other one ? A last question : I have on my monitors speakers two entries, one RCA and a symetric Jack. If I plug my S4 through Jack and his reloop with RCA, can we hear both musics out of the speakers ? Thank you for your answers and sorry for my english I'm french. Jerome |
| Teresia Janusch 05.09.2011 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxRNQ...el_video_title it takes time to get it perfect, but it works and only needs done once. we use a dual traktor setup for every gig |
| Xavier Emanuels 06.09.2011 | Midi sync is still fail sorry to break it to ya Manual sync is still far far superior |
| Lorina Eidsness 05.09.2011 | dead thread revival. any updates on this? traktor has a send and a sync in the master clock now.. |
| robin loo 12.01.2010 | sorry for digging out this old thread, but i'm planning on syncing two traktor pro (one mac with a firebox, one winXP /w an audio4) and there's no real answer in this (except the one of denisps2, but he's not explaing how he did it). would a crossover cable and ipmidi work or is there another option?? |
| Florence Alch 14.10.2009 | More info! 2 of my friends are now on TP so syncing together would be perfect!! |
| Cristian Carmona 14.10.2009 | So how are you hooking up two traktor? |
| Random X 15.10.2009 | That actually is cool news! |
| morales morales 14.10.2009 | Just so you know, working on syncing two traktors now in TP 1.2 and it works quite ok!. Actualy it works the same as syncing traktor and maschine, So from what i have been testing it works, maybe it fluctuates for a milisecond too much, but still good enough. Still didnt test it live though. |
| casey rascal 24.03.2009 | Yeah, I personaly use the manual way. Sticking to one BPM, and the phase sync by ear. Works fine and is actually lots of fun |
| Xavier Emanuels 24.03.2009 | Its an improvement yeah, but its still better to sync how i have described because tempo changes will still throw things off really badly, so doesnt really make me excited. |
| casey rascal 24.03.2009 | I just noticed this in the NI community
official Traktor Pro update thread: The update will include the following improvements: Fixes: * Hardware Wizard functionality improved * Deck filter resonance fixed * Automatic "Load next track" function fixed * Weird pitch readouts when syncing with stopped timecode fixed * AUTO mode sync issues after radical pitch changes in timecode mode fixed * MIDI clock fluctuations fixed * Missing tracks after relocate fixed * Modified import date after relocate fixed * Non-functional pre-listen button fixed * Missing color assignements in Mac finder after tag writing fixed * Disappearing iTunes ratings after mouse-over fixed * Missing tracks after interrupted playlist export fixed * Broadcasting of preview player track metadata fixed * WASAPI device-related crash fixed * Reloop MIDI device detection fixed This sounds promissing for the Midi sync option. Or what? |
| ezequiel tapia 23.03.2009 | sending control data from the master traktor to the slave version seems to work and using wireshark to dump the packet payloads, the OSC control messages can clearly be seen -- tempo syncing remains elusive. the tempo master appears to deliver periodic tempo/time related packets to which the slave ACKs. viewing the master > slave packet payload in ascii, it contains a "#time" portion, but i haven't looked into it much further than that. |
| Xavier Emanuels 22.03.2009 | Keep up the good work and keep us updated on any breathoughs that you can make. I moved these posts over to the right thread so people can more easily find any infomation thas uncovered. |
| ezequiel tapia 22.03.2009 | fired up traktor 3.3.2 on two machines -- while i could select the OSC tempo master's local identifier as the second machine's tempo sync source, it didn't actually do anything. i might still be misunderstanding how the feature works, but changing the tempo of the master playback machine didn't do anything to the secondary machine nor did hitting the sync button on the secondary machine… nada. might be able to sniff the handshake and see the OSC messages going to and fro now though. |
| Xavier Emanuels 21.03.2009 | I havent had the opportunity to test it as i dont currently have two computers to test it on. After some reading on i though i have read that it was broken in later released of T3 but it did work once upon a time - not sure what release it does work and i cannot at this time confirm anything i am actually saying here so take that into consideration. |
| ezequiel tapia 21.03.2009 | ahh, a handshake - that could explain why it is silent. just as a first point of investigation, i was creating a clock source in QuartzComposer, but i also gave sendOSC a shot to see if i could get anything going - neither of course did. sniffing the UDP traffic on the loopback and ethernet interfaces, nothing seemed to be coming from Traktor. the application is probably waiting for the handshake before it starts spitting out a master OSC tempo sync message stream, so that won't likely help. what is the expected workflow for the OSC clock tempo syncing feature? two machines, two copies of 3.3, one as the master the other the tempo slave -- locally this doesn't work and i wonder if it works at all, which might explain why it was removed in Pro. ? |
| Xavier Emanuels 21.03.2009 | What are you trying to sync it to ? I have heard there is some kind of OSC handshake that has to take place first before the programs will start exchanging messages. |
| ezequiel tapia 21.03.2009 | has anyone ever gotten any of the OSC features of traktor3 to work? in searching around a bit, i've yet to read of any tales of success, only those of confusion and frustration. i've tried several OSC clock message combinations targeting traktor3 and i can't seem to excite any change in the application's state. perhaps it uses a custom message for its tempo syncing and not the standard OSC clock message types? in which case, the expected: /IDENTIFIER/clock,VAL /clock,VAL would fail. guess i could set traktor3 to be the OSC tempo master and sniff the output to divine the message format... |
| Dj aziz mastouri 03.03.2009 |
Originally Posted by BentoSan
all this really does confuse me. I'm tellin ya tho, it sound freakin awsome. just wish i spoke the lingo |
| Orval Handwerker 02.03.2009 | guys i have spent last 2 weeks going through different audio/midi interfaces tweaking shit out of different settings using external software plugins virtual cables and tons of other shit....... IF YOU WANT TO AUTO BEAT MATCH 2 COMPUTERS STOP LOOKING FOR OTHER THREADS AND READ BELLOW MIDI IN TRAKTOR is fed up it doesnt work like it should!! traktor does not receive midi!!, the only way to sync 2 traktors on 2 computers at this moment is using OSC like bento san mentioned before. The effect you can get from it is - sending a signal from one to another computer to adjust tempo!! thats it!! You still need to manually adjust a phase and beat match. Traktor pro doesnt even have OSC so i guess you have to use master tempo and have great communication with the person whos playing with you anywho we had fantastic effects using manual beat matching and loop techniques. Good Luck to all of you!! I hope someday NI will fix the issues so traktor can send and receive midi msgs back and forward and you don't have to adjust the phase. |
| Random X 28.02.2009 | Can't wait! |
| Xavier Emanuels 27.02.2009 |
Originally Posted by JesC
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| Cristian Carmona 27.02.2009 | I dont use Traktor Pro, Im still stuck in the Traktor 3 world |
| Xavier Emanuels 27.02.2009 |
Originally Posted by JesC
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| Cristian Carmona 27.02.2009 | OSC it is then, Ill check up if I get it working, if not, stand by bento. |
| Xavier Emanuels 27.02.2009 |
Originally Posted by endorophinmachine
Also if i have said it once, i have said if a million times, midi sync sucks ass Your better off syncing manually - if you need to do tempo changes then have 1 midi knob change the tempo on both computers at the same time - then nudge the tracks to keep them in time. This works a billion times better than midi sync. |
| Sixta Odonovan 27.02.2009 | easy easy boy i believe you have an mac its not really important if its a crossover or and patch cable.... let hear from you soon |
| Cristian Carmona 27.02.2009 | I want to share this with you guys, I havent test it yet, but I have two macbooks in my house. So I guess Ill try toevening
& also on sunday...wish me luck http://www.nerds.de/en/ipmidi_osx.html ipMIDI Mac OS X ipMIDI 1.4 for Apple Mac OS X 10.4.x tiger / 10.5.x leopard (universal binary) ipMIDI offers up to 20 multicast MIDI over LAN ports to connect your Apple Macintoshs with Windows PC's in your local network. ipMIDI is a native OS X MIDI driver. You will find it in Apples's "Audio MIDI Setup". Double click the ipMIDI icon to adjust the number of ports. The new ports will show up in all of your music applications. Get your free copy! Visit our download page to get your free copy of ipMIDI. Please do not hesitate to contact us for any suggestions and *** Looks like I need a crossover cable or I have to look up some DIY options. I really dont want to use a router. |
| Adolf Hit 27.02.2009 | Ill have to give this a try out soon! Me and Kaon have been discussing different options of simultaneous control when we play out, have two separate systems would be tight when there is enough space etc, |
| Xavier Emanuels 27.02.2009 |
Originally Posted by tomii
Think of as kinda like midi on steroids |
| Dj aziz mastouri 27.02.2009 |
Originally Posted by BentoSan
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| Xavier Emanuels 27.02.2009 | hmm odd since Traktor pro 1.0.2 was working alright with midi syncing, then i upgraded to traktor pro 1.1.1 and the sync goes mental - getting about a 2 or 3 bpm fluxuation in the sync which is just mental. |
| Random X 19.02.2009 | Thanks istrateo, I have been looking for this information long time! |
| Xavier Emanuels 19.02.2009 |
Originally Posted by istrateo
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| Alysa Almy 19.02.2009 | I was using version 1.02 |
| Xavier Emanuels 19.02.2009 | What version of Traktor Pro were you using ? They must have fixed the midi sync issue because it wasnt working last at all last time i tried - Traktor was just plain out refusing to sync to a master clock and it took a little while for NI to admit it didnt work heh. |
| Alysa Almy 19.02.2009 | I synced two Traktors Pro running on different computers. I own an Allen & Heath Xone 3D and a Sony Vaio running Vista. On the second computer (also running Vista) I used its integrated sound card, until an external one will be bought. First I tried to make my Xone 3D the master, with both Traktors synchronized to it's output midi clock. My Traktor was in sync.... but I was not able to route the midi clock to the other Traktor because of the midi interfaces I tried to use (Akai MPD 32 and Edirol PCR 300). As soon as we will receive the M-Audio ProFire 610, I will try it). The other option was using the software called MidiOverLan CP. This software creates a virtual Midi Out port on one computer and a virtual Midi In port on the second, and transmits midi data between them over the LAN. So you need both computers to be in the same physical LAN. You can do this using a router or a crossover cable. You then activate the virtual Midi Out port on the first computer and check the "Send midi Clock" option. Also, in the master clock panel I set the midi clock to manual and choose the value I desired (128 BPM), and press the Send Midi Clock button. On the second computer you activate the virtual Midi In port, and in the master clock section you choose "external" mode. All decks from both Traktors should have the sync button pressed. If you are lucky, that is all. Unfortunately, my Xone 3D sound card is much faster than the onboard soundcard on the second computer, so tracks on different computers are delayed (because of the different latency values). Now you have to adjust the Midi Clock Sending Offset until the tracks are perfectly in sync. That's all! PS: The computer with the slower sound card must be the master, because the midi clock signal can only be delayed |
| Xavier Emanuels 18.02.2009 |
Originally Posted by peteone
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| Orval Handwerker 17.02.2009 | got this to work today still testing results soon |
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