Crossfader: who really uses it?

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Crossfader: who really uses it?
Posted on: 10.08.2013 by Leon Albornoz
I am just curious about this. I've been DJ'ing for 2 years now and today I laughed when I looked at my crossfader, as I realized I never use it. And I mean, never, for anything!

I spin Tech House, Techno, Minimal, Tribal, etc.


Who in here feels that the crossfader is totally unnecessary in dance music?

And if you feel it is needed, how do you use it?
Annalisa Shogren
11.08.2013		Shouts to the tape pack massive.
Doreen Schurle
11.08.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
Crossfader is like the ubiquitous Tape Deck in a brand new Hi-Fi. Some folk will still rock it like a boss and some will never touch it. Good to now its there though eh.
Mate, I haven't seen a tape deck on a hi-fi for about 6 years.

iPod dock, sure, Tape Deck? Fuck no lol.

It's like floppy drives on PCs.
Latoria Kavulich
11.08.2013		Crossfader is like the ubiquitous Tape Deck in a brand new Hi-Fi. Some folk will still rock it like a boss and some will never touch it. Good to now its there though eh.
Nga Mcquarter
11.08.2013
Originally Posted by DISaS73R


A good example of crossfader use.
Duuude, I had been looking for this Jamie xx set for some time hahaha nice to find it finally! really nasty nasty nasty stuff he's spinning hahaha I love this guy!!

And about the crossfader issue: I use it all the time for transitioning from A to B xD I guess I should start using the line faders for more control
Ervin Calvery
11.08.2013
Originally Posted by dripstep
Maybe for a training fader lol
like this?
Olin Easley
11.08.2013

A good example of crossfader use.
Jeffrey Akinsanya
11.08.2013		i love a good cut of the fader... or switching...

Hellen Mindrup
12.08.2013		I never use mine at all either but I've been trying to incorporate it into my mixes somehow lately lol, I never have any luck. I suck with the crossfader.
Yong Aptekar
12.08.2013		For a spring to be tight enough, you would need monster finger strength. At that point, I believe it would be counter productive. Maybe for a training fader lol
Doreen Schurle
12.08.2013
Originally Posted by P4ULSON
They do its called a transformer switch it was built into a few old school mixers. Check out the Stanton SK series mixer they have a 3 way selector switch for line/phone/flash and the Flash is spring loaded. works really well



i'm not sure about a spring loaded crossfader but with the transformer switch or flash selector its spring loaded and i can pull off open or closed fader scratches. btw the spring is slower than me on the crossfader thats why me and alot of people don't use it. you'd be surprise how fast your hand can really move once you have the muscle memory NH NM :P
Surely that depends on the spring tension though? I find it difficult to believe that someone's fingers can close a crossfader quicker than a REALLY tight spring :P
Yong Aptekar
12.08.2013		Not putting a cross fader on alienates a whole section of the market. Use it or not, it's necessary.
Tesha Freudenstein
12.08.2013		i don't really use it myself (upfaders do it for me), but i'd have to agree.

Originally Posted by deevey
Better to have and not need, than need and not have.
Arnulfo Morten
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
one thing I can't understand is why nobody's made a spring-loaded crossfader (which automatically snaps back to a specific position) to make scratching easier for those of us with piss-poor dexterity.
They do its called a transformer switch it was built into a few old school mixers. Check out the Stanton SK series mixer they have a 3 way selector switch for line/phone/flash and the Flash is spring loaded. works really well

Originally Posted by dripstep
i can see where MDC is coming from, I hold the crossfader closed with my thumb, and flick it with my fingers open. A spring would close the fader fast, but i dont believe as fast as a quick crab. Maybe LiquitATL or Vekked will chime in, this topic should be a thread itself.
For open fader scratches, you would just hold the fader open, or the spring would only push it so far.
i'm not sure about a spring loaded crossfader but with the transformer switch or flash selector its spring loaded and i can pull off open or closed fader scratches. btw the spring is slower than me on the crossfader thats why me and alot of people don't use it. you'd be surprise how fast your hand can really move once you have the muscle memory NH NM :P
Kristofer Krauel
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
i would be loading up bottle caps and launching them at people. drunky as drunky does.
Steve Aoki would use it to fire cakes at the crowd!!
Latoria Kavulich
10.08.2013		i would be loading up bottle caps and launching them at people. drunky as drunky does.
Doreen Schurle
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by dripstep
i can see where MDC is coming from, I hold the crossfader closed with my thumb, and flick it with my fingers open. A spring would close the fader fast, but i dont believe as fast as a quick crab. Maybe LiquitATL or Vekked will chime in, this topic should be a thread itself.
For open fader scratches, you would just hold the fader open, or the spring would only push it so far.
This, basically. I can't scratch for shit because I can't do that crabbing thing... no matter how I hold my hand, my thumb just doesn't have that "springiness". Add a little spring to the crossfader holding it closed == win.

Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
I've lost all interest in this mixer dudes making now... I wanna see a spring loaded crossfader...!!!

Boing-wicky-boing-wacky-boing.

Make dude , make it.
Don't tempt me haha
Elsie Golis
10.08.2013		how about a motorized crossfader where you can record click Patterns. Or well it doesn't even have to be motorized, believe about it, you hit record, do the fader movements over 4 bars and it then starts auto repeating those movements freeing up a hand of yours to twist dem filter knobs while still killin it.
Rolanda Clodfelder
10.08.2013		Better to have and not need, than need and not have.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
10.08.2013		I've lost all interest in this mixer dudes making now... I wanna see a spring loaded crossfader...!!!

Boing-wicky-boing-wacky-boing.

Make dude , make it.
Norris Swartzfager
10.08.2013		crossfader, essential for backspin magic
Latoria Kavulich
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by R2D2
I mix mostly house tech, dnb , garage I use it all the time
please get rid of those players from your sig asap, before i do it for you. also, as much as i like boobies, they have no place on this community .
Yong Aptekar
10.08.2013		i can see where MDC is coming from, I hold the crossfader closed with my thumb, and flick it with my fingers open. A spring would close the fader fast, but i dont believe as fast as a quick crab. Maybe LiquitATL or Vekked will chime in, this topic should be a thread itself.
For open fader scratches, you would just hold the fader open, or the spring would only push it so far.
Ervin Calvery
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by despo
I don't mean to offend you, but the fact that you're suggesting spring loaded crossfaders states the fact that you have no idea about scratching, it would just make proper scratching harder.
+1

How would open-fader scratches work? Why would anyone want to make scratching easier?
Elsie Golis
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
With that said, one thing I can't understand is why nobody's made a spring-loaded crossfader (which automatically snaps back to a specific position) to make scratching easier for those of us with piss-poor dexterity.
I don't mean to offend you, but the fact that you're suggesting spring loaded crossfaders states the fact that you have no idea about scratching, it would just make proper scratching harder.
Rolande Posso
10.08.2013		I mix mostly house tech, dnb , garage I use it all the time
Ervin Calvery
10.08.2013		I use it all the time, but I'm a turntablist. For me, the fader makes or breaks the mixer.
Yong Aptekar
10.08.2013		Scratching, yes. Mixing anything, and its all volume faders.
Doreen Schurle
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by DJBife
I am just curious about this. I've been DJ'ing for 2 years now and today I laughed when I looked at my crossfader, as I realized I never use it. And I mean, never, for anything!

I spin Tech House, Techno, Minimal, Tribal, etc.


Who in here feels that the crossfader is totally unnecessary in dance music?

And if you feel it is needed, how do you use it?
I've been DJing for 15 years and haven't used the crossfader for the past 14 of those.

If I had my own way, mixers wouldn't even have them; or at the very least, they'd be RIGHT out of the way.

With that said, one thing I can't understand is why nobody's made a spring-loaded crossfader (which automatically snaps back to a specific position) to make scratching easier for those of us with piss-poor dexterity.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
10.08.2013
Originally Posted by DJBife
Who in here feels that the crossfader is totally unnecessary in dance music?
Anybody who believes this is merely stating their preference, the way they work.
It's not a question that any objective person can answer without also saying "in my opinion".

I use the crossfader no matter what music I am spinning. It's a habit thing. I like the safety of knowing that the crossfader is to one side and that I wont accidentally air a track whilst cueing.

As a scratcher I also need the crossfader.


The question is just as unanswerable as "Do you need the Gain knobs" some people use them to mix, some people barely touch them.
I know a gazillion "dance music" DJ's never use the crossfader but I bet a gazillion playing the same music do use it.

And as for the right and wrong or tradition way of using the crossfader, meh hang all that. Use it the way you want. Some DJ's use it to fade (not just cut).
Arnulfo Morten
10.08.2013		lol..... line faders are for fading, crossfader is for cutting if you don't cut or know what cutting is then you prob don't use it i've seen a few times where a dude was running 4 decks and couldn't assign them the way he wanted to his crossfader so he used a combination of the line fader and the crossfader to mix between the decks. It was on a behringer djx mixer
Julissa Serrone
10.08.2013		Scratching.
Kellie Myrum
10.08.2013		Comes handy when you got some smart fader effects mapped to same controls as your line faders.
Jetta Drenzek
10.08.2013		You can get really cool stutter effects with it as well.
Cori Ozanich
10.08.2013		I don't use it myself but yeah, exactly what DISaS73R said. Quick cuts, although it's not essential there and scratching.
Olin Easley
10.08.2013		The crossfader is used for quick cuts (believe dubstep, dark garage and stuff like that). Not to mention that it's essential for scratching.

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