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flosstradamus caught faking it!
Posted on: 12.10.2012 by Roseanne Torstenson
Fail...


Matt Kane
12.10.2012
Originally Posted by Otacon
yeah its kinda 50/50 on whether it was fake or not, hard to tell. And to Paris about the no reason to hate thing, i was talking about the "sampling" not the possibly fake show. Sampling from a song isn't reason to hate someone who's music you enjoy, even if it was going alittle too far.
sorry. my fault. i missread it
Nancey Inderlied
12.10.2012
Originally Posted by jayo
More likely that it was done in Ableton and not really mixed at all.
So... what? "Ableton DJs" are all fakes now? Damn, better alert the tons of Ableton users.
Janyce Henningson
12.10.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
Why on earth are we sitting here trying to judge whether or not they had a prerecorded set? Who cares?! I'd bet half the people who look down on prerecording support autosync, at least with a mixed CD theres the implication that you've mixed the set by hand at some point. Playing out a mix is less "fake" than syncing.
What a tool...
Evie Baghdasarian
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
Why on earth are we sitting here trying to judge whether or not they had a prerecorded set? Who cares?! I'd bet half the people who look down on prerecording support autosync, at least with a mixed CD theres the implication that you've mixed the set by hand at some point. Playing out a mix is less "fake" than syncing.
More likely that it was done in Ableton and not really mixed at all.
Nancey Inderlied
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
How is there an implication that a mixed CD was mixed by by hand/non-sync? What a bullshit assumption.
Because it could have been, and most prolific DJs have at least the technical ability to do so. If someone heavily supported sync, chances are they wouldn't be playing out a mix in the first place.
Johnetta Olewine
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
Why on earth are we sitting here trying to judge whether or not they had a prerecorded set? Who cares?! I'd bet half the people who look down on prerecording support autosync, at least with a mixed CD theres the implication that you've mixed the set by hand at some point. Playing out a mix is less "fake" than syncing.
How is there an implication that a mixed CD was mixed by by hand/non-sync? What a bullshit assumption.
Francis Leckliter
12.10.2012
I like the other issue brought up about sampling. Ethics of sampling is always something I can't come to many conclusions.
Kamala Temple
12.10.2012
I saw them in a very small venue in NYC, no more than 75 people. They were using Traktor with 2 turntables and a Maschine. They were playing on a small wooden table with people all around it. They do in fact play a real show. Honestly, it was one of the most fun shows I've been to. They're a class act, even stayed after to party with everyone and hear the DJ after them.
Barbie Bangasser
12.10.2012
If you search Youtube they have a video of how they play live and if I remember correctly its with Ableton and everything through a Audio 6 I believe. I'm not sure what that matters but I heard in another community that the audio cut out was probably cause by their MacBook's HD shock protection (whatever it's called). I don't know if I believe it since it sounds like a new song starts magically mixing midway through them re-setting up. Then again, I am not familiar with DJing in ableton.
Erich Vallabhaneni
12.10.2012
all good my friend I hate a fake show as much as the next guy. Why even stand up there waving your hands and jumping around if an iPod can do your job for you?
Matt Kane
12.10.2012
Originally Posted by Otacon
yeah its kinda 50/50 on whether it was fake or not, hard to tell. And to Paris about the no reason to hate thing, i was talking about the "sampling" not the possibly fake show. Sampling from a song isn't reason to hate someone who's music you enjoy, even if it was going alittle too far.
sorry. my fault. i missread it
Erich Vallabhaneni
12.10.2012
yeah its kinda 50/50 on whether it was fake or not, hard to tell. And to Paris about the no reason to hate thing, i was talking about the "sampling" not the possibly fake show. Sampling from a song isn't reason to hate someone who's music you enjoy, even if it was going alittle too far.
Desire Piedmont
12.10.2012
I find it hard to imagine that everything could stay plugged in after that screw up. It's possible, but it seems absurdly lucky if it did.
cala mar
12.10.2012
I've never even heard of flosstradamus and based on what I'm hearing in the video I know why.
I just find it funny that they were acting stupid enough to knock a table worth of gear on the floor.
Nancey Inderlied
12.10.2012
Originally Posted by jayo
More likely that it was done in Ableton and not really mixed at all.
So... what? "Ableton DJs" are all fakes now? Damn, better alert the tons of Ableton users.
Janyce Henningson
12.10.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
Why on earth are we sitting here trying to judge whether or not they had a prerecorded set? Who cares?! I'd bet half the people who look down on prerecording support autosync, at least with a mixed CD theres the implication that you've mixed the set by hand at some point. Playing out a mix is less "fake" than syncing.
What a tool...
Evie Baghdasarian
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
Why on earth are we sitting here trying to judge whether or not they had a prerecorded set? Who cares?! I'd bet half the people who look down on prerecording support autosync, at least with a mixed CD theres the implication that you've mixed the set by hand at some point. Playing out a mix is less "fake" than syncing.
More likely that it was done in Ableton and not really mixed at all.
Frieda Swoboda
11.10.2012
I don't believe regular fans give a shit.

But to truly find out, someone has to be familiar with those specific songs that were playing and any versions of them. If there was "mixing" going on while the stuff was all the floor, then it probably mostly pre-recorded. If the songs playing were known remixes or versions played elsewhere, then it could be legit.

I've seen a lot of videos on youtube from guys at fests where they are turning the "magic knob". Meaning there is mixing going on and yet there hand is on a random knob that wouldn't be able to produce that. Or doing that fake knob tweaking you see a lot of guys doing where they just touch a knob but don't actually move it. I see a lot of guys doing the fake touch thing, some are just checking as sort of a habit, others I believe are trying to fake how much they are actually mixing.
Nancey Inderlied
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
How is there an implication that a mixed CD was mixed by by hand/non-sync? What a bullshit assumption.
Because it could have been, and most prolific DJs have at least the technical ability to do so. If someone heavily supported sync, chances are they wouldn't be playing out a mix in the first place.
Johnetta Olewine
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
Why on earth are we sitting here trying to judge whether or not they had a prerecorded set? Who cares?! I'd bet half the people who look down on prerecording support autosync, at least with a mixed CD theres the implication that you've mixed the set by hand at some point. Playing out a mix is less "fake" than syncing.
How is there an implication that a mixed CD was mixed by by hand/non-sync? What a bullshit assumption.
Nancey Inderlied
11.10.2012
Why on earth are we sitting here trying to judge whether or not they had a prerecorded set? Who cares?! I'd bet half the people who look down on prerecording support autosync, at least with a mixed CD theres the implication that you've mixed the set by hand at some point. Playing out a mix is less "fake" than syncing.
Kamala Temple
11.10.2012
After watching it again, everything does still look plugged in.
Ciara Cuttill
11.10.2012
I don't know, it's quite difficult to tell, it seems as if their gear was still plugged in and playing.
Debrah Arnaout
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by niccogan
Definitely not, they put a decent spin on it and it obviously wouldn't be popular if it wasn't something new. It's just a little deceptive. They should have released them as remixes probably more so bootlegs. Bird Peterson basically does the same thing with Top 10 Beatport Tracks and credits the original artists and seems to pull a decent amount of fans.
The first Drankestein didnt ruffle anyones feathers and it didnt credit anyone in the titles.
Ulysses Vittetoe
11.10.2012
If they're faking it...shame on them, there's more to their craft than just producing, you should learn to be a good DJ as well before you start doing these types of performances.
Ashlea Retzlaff
11.10.2012
cant tell if its fake or not. stuff fell on the floor but things could have still been plugged in. looks liek the laptop stuttered when it hit the floor but worked fine again afterwards.
Renata Shehu
11.10.2012
LOOK SUPER CLOSE...THEY AREN'T CHEATING

0:51s he has his laptop back up and PRESSES a HOTCUE on the laptop...starting the next song (which was probably already ready in waiting)

then at 0:59s you see his arm move up on the controller that engages a HIGH PASS FILTER right before the next song drops...

later 1:24 after he talks...he presses the same HOTCUE to restart the 2nd song again...

when everything fell over nothing BROKE or skipped...but the crossfader (especially if it's set to cut) probably moved over to deck 2 who's volume was all the way down...then when it got nudged or picked up again it slid back over and resumed the track 1 song at full volume

I believe he was already ready with track 2 and pressed one of the laptop numbers to trigger the 1st cue point and through on the FILTER to quick mix out...

anyone else believe this is true?? or is there something i'm missing as to why you believe it was a premix CD???

Johnetta Olewine
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by DJ JesC
ripping hardstyle?
Bottom of the barrel eh...


Its kinda great how phone technology and social media exposes these sham acts almost immediately. This shit will stick for sure.
Roseanne Torstenson
11.10.2012
Yea I was a big flosstradamus supporter and had no idea that was going on. The video was taken just last week too so makes you wonder how long they have just been letting a cd play.
Cristian Carmona
11.10.2012
ripping hardstyle?
Matt Kane
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by Otacon
yeah im pretty bummed about it. This thread as a whole has me pretty bummed because i've been big into floss as of late. They just over stepped their boundaries alittle, no reason to go hating them or anything
no reason to go hating? hell i
Barbie Bangasser
11.10.2012
Definitely not, they put a decent spin on it and it obviously wouldn't be popular if it wasn't something new. It's just a little deceptive. They should have released them as remixes probably more so bootlegs. Bird Peterson basically does the same thing with Top 10 Beatport Tracks and credits the original artists and seems to pull a decent amount of fans.
Erich Vallabhaneni
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by niccogan
Is anyone seriously bummed about this? I always thought the synth work on the Total Recall EP was way too good sounding but I didn't believe they'd lift entire portions of songs like that.
yeah im pretty bummed about it. This thread as a whole has me pretty bummed because i've been big into floss as of late. They just over stepped their boundaries alittle, no reason to go hating them or anything
Barbie Bangasser
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by dj sterilize
And then this comes around too..


http://www.factmag.com/2012/10/09/du...only-sampling/

Is this how to get ahead these days? lol

Is anyone seriously bummed about this? I always thought the synth work on the Total Recall EP was way too good sounding but I didn't believe they'd lift entire portions of songs like that.
Lang Abriel
11.10.2012
lol, i feel like half the ppl there didn't even know what was going on, and he just plays it off like its still all good.

Couldn't understand what he was screaming through the mic
Matt Kane
11.10.2012
what the fuck?
Nereida Jasnoch
11.10.2012
awww man
Delmar Hungler
12.10.2012
Arr no way
Erich Vallabhaneni
12.10.2012
Damn, yeah I can see how that's going alittle too far....but deff gonna download it because I kinda like some hardstyle and love some Floss.
Roseanne Torstenson
12.10.2012
And then this comes around too..


http://www.factmag.com/2012/10/09/du...only-sampling/

Is this how to get ahead these days? lol

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