20 Minute Mix -- Approximately 50 Tunes. HELP.

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20 Minute Mix -- Approximately 50 Tunes. HELP.
Posted on: 29.10.2012 by Jovita Schulist
Hi.
I'm looking to make a 20-25 minute mix with a TON of songs in it. Mainly drops, but obviously some buildups and some breakdowns. Now..
Do you believe I am better off using Ableton?
Or is this possible to do in Traktor?
I just got the s4 yesterday from a friend to borrow.
I am comfortable with 2/4 track mixes.
Watcha believe?
Jed
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Latoria Kavulich
31.10.2012
Originally Posted by O.D.
Do it on a platform that doesn't auto sync for you and then you'll earn some cred.
really?
Jovita Schulist
29.10.2012
Hi.
I'm looking to make a 20-25 minute mix with a TON of songs in it. Mainly drops, but obviously some buildups and some breakdowns. Now..
Do you believe I am better off using Ableton?
Or is this possible to do in Traktor?
I just got the s4 yesterday from a friend to borrow.
I am comfortable with 2/4 track mixes.
Watcha believe?
Jed
Valeri Holderness
31.10.2012
its not that its impossible on traktor/serato, etc. you can do it and make it sound good depending on the type of music you do and how skilled you are. hot mixing, drops, cuts, blends, etc. are your friends in this situation. 50 in 20 minutes is fairly excessive (most djs probably don't play 50 in an hour) but if its something you want to do, then the best advice I can give you is just get to work and start building your mix
Beverlee Bedrin
31.10.2012
I'm not an anti-sync guy or anything but mixing that many tracks in 20 mns isn't gonna sound good or be an impressive mix. The way I see it, it's more of an arrangement if your doing it in Ableton or something similar, and in a sense is more like a 20 mn track. Back in the day when djs did this, the main reason it was impressive was because it was physically hard to manually beatmatch that many tracks in such a short amount of time. Take away the human element and eh
Nedra Cheff
31.10.2012
Haha! No just pointing out the tools i would use.

The Madeon video is just an extreme example.
Kiyoko Wellisch
31.10.2012
You're not seriously suggesting he try that, are you?
Nedra Cheff
31.10.2012
Ableton + Launchpad + Mixed in Key = Madeon Live Mashup

Lawana Spratlen
31.10.2012
100% Ableton.

As a starting point id run some tracks through mixed in key
Chong Mine
31.10.2012
Sounds a bit gimicky no offense intended
Latia Sotak
31.10.2012
@Stereo:Type That mix is a total monster!!

Seeing as I work for the company that owns XFM, i'm pissed off that i've only just discovered this mix!

......i'm busily grabbing everything downloadable with your name on, on soundcloud! :-)
Malissa Mountcastle
31.10.2012
Ableton all the way for something like this. Even if you were going to do it live, you would have to edit each track to help it fit in the time constraint, and once you've done that you may as well just sequence it out. The credit should go to you for making that many tunes in that space of time sound great together, not whether you mix it in traktor or ableton.
You hear mixes where people cram 200 tunes into 5 minutes, and i've yet to hear something like that come out in a coherent manner. It just sounds like loads of bits of tunes stuck next to each other with no real blending between them. Granted you may need to do some of this in a mix of this nature, but surely the whole purpose of any mix is both track selection, and how well the tracks work with each other?

I did this mix for XFM here in the UK a while back, and it's been hailed by the station as the best 10 minutes they ever put out. 84 tracks in 10 minutes... [end shameless plug] I don't believe it would have come out sounding nearly so clean if i hadn't have used ableton.

http://soundcloud.com/stereotypemashup/stereotype-xfm-top-10-mix
Kiyoko Wellisch
31.10.2012
Mate, you beatmatch 50 tunes in 20 mins on vinyl and you will get some mad respect from me ;P
Latoria Kavulich
31.10.2012
Originally Posted by O.D.
Do it on a platform that doesn't auto sync for you and then you'll earn some cred.
really?
Kiyoko Wellisch
30.10.2012
50 tracks in 20 mins? Why? Just to prove you can?

Sounds like it would be pretty uncomfortable to me. If I were attempting it I would want to be using ableton and would have a very carefully planned and tested track listing. And I certainly wouldn't be doing it in one take :P
Emerson Crist
29.10.2012
Cuepoints will be your friend. Ive never done 50+ songs in 20 min, but I believe if you can edit the tracks properly, in Ableton or in Traktor, you might be able to pull it off if you can beatmatch quick enough.
Beverlee Bedrin
29.10.2012
Do it on a platform that doesn't auto sync for you and then you'll earn some cred.
Janyce Henningson
29.10.2012
Have u tried plugging the S4 into your computer and having a go?
That's where you'll find your answer.

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