Calvin Harris and Dillon Francis worked there... no way!
| First Gig tips? I'm Djing at my friends party on the 17th and I have been DJing for a Year and belive I am quite good (Check out my youtube in signiture if you want) I just wanted to know if there are any tips i should know before the party
BTW I have prepared a 3 hour mix to play live at the party | Georgiann Bayze 07.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by fitzyp
Honestly nobody will even notice the mixing. If they like top 40 stuff and its a house party chances are they're not looking for the long smooth transitions or even a set with phrase. Just fader slam, echofreeze, backspin, etc that bitch. Kids will be hammered and love it anyway.
Thanks man Will do ! | Georgiann Bayze 07.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by shr3dder
Really?
I play a few top 40 gigs every month, Pop music is at a fantastic temp for mixing these days...
Avicci, Pitbull, Nicki Minaj, Guetta, Flo Rida, Derulo, Rihanna etc... all 125-130bpm.....
It's only the slower hip hopppy shit which is different, and that's easy to swap over too. Just be creative with your cuts.
Thats the problem also she wants me to play a bit of hip hop :/ | Georgiann Bayze 07.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Pearce161
dont forget to let us know how it goes OP
Dw I will keep you updated! | Ara Tima 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
and hence the reason why you can't plan 3 hours of music YOU want to play at the average house party, I reiterate, you are there for the them, they are not there for you. There are multiple remixed EDM versions of all top 40, djcity.com
Be careful though, I find some people/crowds don't like a lot of those "top 40 remixes" and you just end up getting requests for the "normal version" of the song. | Roseanna Signorini 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Dj Havik
I have just talked to the girl who im DJing her party and she wants me to play top 40 shit, Like Jay sean, Nicki Minaj, Pitbull, Jason Duerlo etc. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME I need to know how to mix pop with electro house, the bpms are all over the place SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!!
and hence the reason why you can't plan 3 hours of music YOU want to play at the average house party, I reiterate, you are there for the them, they are not there for you. There are multiple remixed EDM versions of all top 40, djcity.com | Ara Tima 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Dj Havik
I have just talked to the girl who im DJing her party and she wants me to play top 40 shit, Like Jay sean, Nicki Minaj, Pitbull, Jason Duerlo etc. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME I need to know how to mix pop with electro house, the bpms are all over the place SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!!
Really?
I play a few top 40 gigs every month, Pop music is at a fantastic temp for mixing these days...
Avicci, Pitbull, Nicki Minaj, Guetta, Flo Rida, Derulo, Rihanna etc... all 125-130bpm.....
It's only the slower hip hopppy shit which is different, and that's easy to swap over too. Just be creative with your cuts. | Georgiann Bayze 07.11.2012 | Thanks soo much to everyone, I am really happy I can be able to get help from all you guys really appricaite it <3 | Georgiann Bayze 07.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by fitzyp
Honestly nobody will even notice the mixing. If they like top 40 stuff and its a house party chances are they're not looking for the long smooth transitions or even a set with phrase. Just fader slam, echofreeze, backspin, etc that bitch. Kids will be hammered and love it anyway.
Thanks man Will do ! | Georgiann Bayze 07.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by shr3dder
Really?
I play a few top 40 gigs every month, Pop music is at a fantastic temp for mixing these days...
Avicci, Pitbull, Nicki Minaj, Guetta, Flo Rida, Derulo, Rihanna etc... all 125-130bpm.....
It's only the slower hip hopppy shit which is different, and that's easy to swap over too. Just be creative with your cuts.
Thats the problem also she wants me to play a bit of hip hop :/ | Georgiann Bayze 07.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Pearce161
dont forget to let us know how it goes OP
Dw I will keep you updated! | Ara Tima 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
and hence the reason why you can't plan 3 hours of music YOU want to play at the average house party, I reiterate, you are there for the them, they are not there for you. There are multiple remixed EDM versions of all top 40, djcity.com
Be careful though, I find some people/crowds don't like a lot of those "top 40 remixes" and you just end up getting requests for the "normal version" of the song. | Roseanna Signorini 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Dj Havik
I have just talked to the girl who im DJing her party and she wants me to play top 40 shit, Like Jay sean, Nicki Minaj, Pitbull, Jason Duerlo etc. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME I need to know how to mix pop with electro house, the bpms are all over the place SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!!
and hence the reason why you can't plan 3 hours of music YOU want to play at the average house party, I reiterate, you are there for the them, they are not there for you. There are multiple remixed EDM versions of all top 40, djcity.com | Ara Tima 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Dj Havik
I have just talked to the girl who im DJing her party and she wants me to play top 40 shit, Like Jay sean, Nicki Minaj, Pitbull, Jason Duerlo etc. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME I need to know how to mix pop with electro house, the bpms are all over the place SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!!
Really?
I play a few top 40 gigs every month, Pop music is at a fantastic temp for mixing these days...
Avicci, Pitbull, Nicki Minaj, Guetta, Flo Rida, Derulo, Rihanna etc... all 125-130bpm.....
It's only the slower hip hopppy shit which is different, and that's easy to swap over too. Just be creative with your cuts. | Ned Somerset 06.11.2012 | Honestly nobody will even notice the mixing. If they like top 40 stuff and its a house party chances are they're not looking for the long smooth transitions or even a set with phrase. Just fader slam, echofreeze, backspin, etc that bitch. Kids will be hammered and love it anyway. | Nannette Doniger 06.11.2012 | dont forget to let us know how it goes OP | Geri Jarra 06.11.2012 | sorry I didn't even take notice, but I agree with you man. Under those circumstances I would also plan a set, especially if its being recorded/broadcasted...
I'll show you off topic - Are you still selling TSP kit (pm'd) | Kasi Marget 06.11.2012 | Hence me stating at first it was off topic. | Geri Jarra 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by dope
It's a bit off topic but I couldn't resist so here we go :
I disagree.
I organize my own evening
s with friends (djs, producers, non music related artists but still music lovers..). When I play my brostep/drumstep/bass music/whatever "act", tracks are more or less already choosen before the evening
started.
Why is that ? 2 main reasons
1) The music I play ranges from 110 to 170+ bpm, with some being 4 on the floor, some half beat.
From a technical point of view, I'm not found of the echofreeze thing or brutal cut for transitions between very different genres, therefore I have to believe a bit before on how I'm gonna stucture the whole set so that it makes senses, sounds great and that I dont forget any "milestone" track i absolutely want to play.
If you struggle to make a nice transition between 110 moombahcore 4/4 to some dubstep (140 half time), then you remember you forgot to play your lastest hottest moombah banger, you're screwed.
Also, the fact that I'm on CDJs makes it even harder sometimes (I don't have good enough CDJs to have hot cues/loops, and I decided to take the laptop away)
Not to mention that the sets are recorded and broadcasted later on, so their is very little room for error.
2) Because the whole concept of our evening
is to bring the youth in the area something different. The music played ranges from techno to dnb, with little trance and some electro. We give people the opportunity to enjoy something that's not the same utter crap they can listen on the radio, something we love (whether it's our own tracks or other people's), and they have to deal with it.
In that specific concept, the guy on the stage, call it a DJ if you want to, is not an entertainer, or at least not an entertainer that let his stuff guided by a youth that has tragic musical taste for the most part. It's more like an "experience bringer" if i may. Nothing arrogant in that, it's just a choice, people may not dig the party, but we don't care and they are not forced to come back the next time, it will give us more room to breath in those small, hot and humid rooms.
I agree with most of this, but in this situation it doesn't apply. He services are requested to be the "tool for people to party". That doesn't mean the set can't be pre-made, but without being sure of the party atmosphere, and for request's sake, I still wouldn't recommend it.
Originally Posted by dope
Sometimes you are a disc changer, a tool for people to party, and it's something I respect. You have to pay the bills after all. But when you have the opportunity not to, spinning what you love, and only what you love is awesome. And having a crowd respond to a track you play because you decided to share it is WAY more satisfying than having a crowd respond to the usual mainsteam trendy commercial gangnam crap.
Of course its nice to play what you want. But take the situation I stated earlier. I was being paid to play Top40/Dance/Electro at my normal Bar because thats what they want to hear. If I had been using a prepared set, I would not have had many Trap songs at all (And I enjoy playing trap a lot more than Top40). I ended up getting the opportunity to play trap, and because I don't prepare sets I naturally and easily moved right into it. Again I am not saying this is the best, only or correct way to DJ, but you need to realize the benefits in situations like this. One which is a lot more relevant to the OP. | Nannette Doniger 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by dope
Are you sure about that ?
If the track you picked is popular enough, as soon as people hear the beginning they will go crazy, and won't even bother about the transition. Example :
Listen at 1:05. He doesn't even give a shit, and neither does the crowd.
tbh I dont believe he gives a shit most of the time not just at 1:05 on this vid | Georgiann Bayze 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by dope
Are you sure about that ?
Pop music is getting more and more "EDM" influenced, you shouldn't have problem matching tempos most of the time.
If you can't beatmatch 2 tracks because of that, try the following :
If your next track is recognisable easily and popular, you can set a cue point at a specific point (a word in the vocals of the intro or something).
Then, play with that hot cue on the bpm of the previous track. Fade the previous track but keep mashing the cue button in the rythm. Press play.
If the track you picked is popular enough, as soon as people hear the beginning they will go crazy, and won't even bother about the transition. Example :
Listen at 1:05. He doesn't even give a shit, and neither does the crowd.
Thanks Heaps Man! Really Appricaite it Anyone else got some tips for mixing pop with edm? | Kasi Marget 06.11.2012 | Are you sure about that ?
Pop music is getting more and more "EDM" influenced, you shouldn't have problem matching tempos most of the time.
If you can't beatmatch 2 tracks because of that, try the following :
If your next track is recognisable easily and popular, you can set a cue point at a specific point (a word in the vocals of the intro or something).
Then, play with that hot cue on the bpm of the previous track. Fade the previous track but keep mashing the cue button in the rythm. Press play.
If the track you picked is popular enough, as soon as people hear the beginning they will go crazy, and won't even bother about the transition. Example :
Listen at 1:05. He doesn't even give a shit, and neither does the crowd. | Georgiann Bayze 06.11.2012 | I have just talked to the girl who im DJing her party and she wants me to play top 40 shit, Like Jay sean, Nicki Minaj, Pitbull, Jason Duerlo etc. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME I need to know how to mix pop with electro house, the bpms are all over the place SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!! | Georgiann Bayze 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by fitzyp
bring a flashlight
Advice doesnt get any better than this right here | Georgiann Bayze 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by dope
It's a bit off topic but I couldn't resist so here we go :
I disagree.
I organize my own evening
s with friends (djs, producers, non music related artists but still music lovers..). When I play my brostep/drumstep/bass music/whatever "act", tracks are more or less already choosen before the evening
started.
Why is that ? 2 main reasons
1) The music I play ranges from 110 to 170+ bpm, with some being 4 on the floor, some half beat.
From a technical point of view, I'm not found of the echofreeze thing or brutal cut for transitions between very different genres, therefore I have to believe a bit before on how I'm gonna stucture the whole set so that it makes senses, sounds great and that I dont forget any "milestone" track i absolutely want to play.
If you struggle to make a nice transition between 110 moombahcore 4/4 to some dubstep (140 half time), then you remember you forgot to play your lastest hottest moombah banger, you're screwed.
Also, the fact that I'm on CDJs makes it even harder sometimes (I don't have good enough CDJs to have hot cues/loops, and I decided to take the laptop away)
Not to mention that the sets are recorded and broadcasted later on, so their is very little room for error.
2) Because the whole concept of our evening
is to bring the youth in the area something different. The music played ranges from techno to dnb, with little trance and some electro. We give people the opportunity to enjoy something that's not the same utter crap they can listen on the radio, something we love (whether it's our own tracks or other people's), and they have to deal with it.
In that specific concept, the guy on the stage, call it a DJ if you want to, is not an entertainer, or at least not an entertainer that let his stuff guided by a youth that has tragic musical taste for the most part. It's more like an "experience bringer" if i may. Nothing arrogant in that, it's just a choice, people may not dig the party, but we don't care and they are not forced to come back the next time, it will give us more room to breath in those small, hot and humid rooms.
Sometimes you are a disc changer, a tool for people to party, and it's something I respect. You have to pay the bills after all. But when you have the opportunity not to, spinning what you love, and only what you love is awesome. And having a crowd respond to a track you play because you decided to share it is WAY more satisfying than having a crowd respond to the usual mainsteam trendy commercial gangnam crap.
Sorry for the rent, but I had to do it
On topic : I don't know about the PA system, but if it's big, get earplugs. I suffered a tinnitus after a gig, it lasted for 3 weeks give or take, i though my hearing would never be the same.
Luckily it came back to normal, but that fear is horrible. You only have 1 set of ears for your entire life
And if you can't afford custom made earplugs or if you can't get some done for you before the gig, prepare few 10/20 minutes premades mixes so you can go get some fresh air and calm your ears for a bit, away from the banging PA system.
It also helps if you want to :
- pee
- hit on some girls
This is great HAHAHA Will do mate thanks for the help | Ned Somerset 05.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by lucidstrings
fixed!
in case the evening
fails. | Trista Karle 05.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by fitzyp
bring a fleshlight
fixed! | Kasi Marget 05.11.2012 |
A DJ's job is to entertain a crowd so having a pre-planed setlist is probably not the way to go. The exception, imo, would be if you are a producer/DJ and you are getting booked to play your music. OP, this obviously is not the case for you.
It's a bit off topic but I couldn't resist so here we go :
I disagree.
I organize my own evening
s with friends (djs, producers, non music related artists but still music lovers..). When I play my brostep/drumstep/bass music/whatever "act", tracks are more or less already choosen before the evening
started.
Why is that ? 2 main reasons
1) The music I play ranges from 110 to 170+ bpm, with some being 4 on the floor, some half beat.
From a technical point of view, I'm not found of the echofreeze thing or brutal cut for transitions between very different genres, therefore I have to believe a bit before on how I'm gonna stucture the whole set so that it makes senses, sounds great and that I dont forget any "milestone" track i absolutely want to play.
If you struggle to make a nice transition between 110 moombahcore 4/4 to some dubstep (140 half time), then you remember you forgot to play your lastest hottest moombah banger, you're screwed.
Also, the fact that I'm on CDJs makes it even harder sometimes (I don't have good enough CDJs to have hot cues/loops, and I decided to take the laptop away)
Not to mention that the sets are recorded and broadcasted later on, so their is very little room for error.
2) Because the whole concept of our evening
is to bring the youth in the area something different. The music played ranges from techno to dnb, with little trance and some electro. We give people the opportunity to enjoy something that's not the same utter crap they can listen on the radio, something we love (whether it's our own tracks or other people's), and they have to deal with it.
In that specific concept, the guy on the stage, call it a DJ if you want to, is not an entertainer, or at least not an entertainer that let his stuff guided by a youth that has tragic musical taste for the most part. It's more like an "experience bringer" if i may. Nothing arrogant in that, it's just a choice, people may not dig the party, but we don't care and they are not forced to come back the next time, it will give us more room to breath in those small, hot and humid rooms.
Sometimes you are a disc changer, a tool for people to party, and it's something I respect. You have to pay the bills after all. But when you have the opportunity not to, spinning what you love, and only what you love is awesome. And having a crowd respond to a track you play because you decided to share it is WAY more satisfying than having a crowd respond to the usual mainsteam trendy commercial gangnam crap.
Sorry for the rent, but I had to do it :)
On topic : I don't know about the PA system, but if it's big, get earplugs. I suffered a tinnitus after a gig, it lasted for 3 weeks give or take, i though my hearing would never be the same.
Luckily it came back to normal, but that fear is horrible. You only have 1 set of ears for your entire life :)
And if you can't afford custom made earplugs or if you can't get some done for you before the gig, prepare few 10/20 minutes premades mixes so you can go get some fresh air and calm your ears for a bit, away from the banging PA system.
It also helps if you want to :
- pee
- hit on some girls | Ned Somerset 05.11.2012 | bring a flashlight | Antonetta Wikel 05.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Jester
Sirreal, Tara506 was a bot mate
Now I don't feel so bad about taking a piss. | Ara Tima 05.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Jester
Sirreal, Tara506 was a bot mate
A bot that did copy what the OP said in an earlier post however. | Latoria Kavulich 05.11.2012 | Sirreal, Tara506 was a bot mate | Geri Jarra 04.11.2012 | Because mixing as a DJ is an art, there is no right or wrong way to go about it. There are general guidelines for beginners though
A DJ's job is to entertain a crowd so having a pre-planed setlist is probably not the way to go. The exception, imo, would be if you are a producer/DJ and you are getting booked to play your music. OP, this obviously is not the case for you.
Everyone already said it, so I won't repeat, but a well prepared and well rounded library is key. I believe for gig's like this it's important to be flexible and responsive to the crowd when choosing your songs.
The other evening
was slow at the bar, and the only group of people dancing said they wanted to hear trap. On a normal evening
I wouldn't play more than a few trap songs because it isn't what majority of the people are into. Luckily I have a whole trap folder that I mixed for the last hour of the evening
. I mix trap a lot on my own, so I did it well and these guys loved it. They actually got everyone else in the bar going too. | Antonetta Wikel 04.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Tara506
I feel more comfortable playing a prepared mix so I know what song I should play next. I haven't recorded the mix I plan on mixing live.
You should post your playlist so we can really dissect your mix before you play it. I mean how can we really give you tips on a pre arranged set unless you give us more info? Actuallty it might be better if you recorded what you intend to play and then we can help you out with mix techniques and FX use. Really dial it in, you know? | Margie Pavell 04.11.2012 | mind your levels... | Ara Tima 04.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Dj Havik
I just wanted to know if there are any tips i should know before the party
BTW I have prepared a 3 hour mix to play live at the party
A preprepared set at a house party is just asking for trouble. You will get requests, you will have an eclectic crowd, you will get pissed off people. You gotta be flexible.
Playlists are cool, cue markers, loop markers, a general idea of what works together but jesus 3 hours of tunes preprepared?
Absolute worse case scenario you screw up a mix or two, who cares, nobody notices at house parties, heck you're using Traktor, there is a sync button. I had a mate take over from me at a party a few weeks back, never DJ'd in his life, was killing it after 10-15 minutes of practice just rocking the sync button and a well organised and tagged playlist... | Roseanna Signorini 04.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by sss18734
Definitely not. Having your loops, cues, beatgrids, markers, and comments set up on your main tracks can really take your mix to the next level and only improves your ability to be spontaneous.
I can agree with that because for me, loops, cues, beatgrids, markers, etc. is still within the confines of that particular track. I am not saying its not good to know what tracks work well together but to have 3 hours of music meticulously planned out is not much further than setting up a playlist in an ipod. I realize it is your first gig and can understand the nerves and I don't mean to sound harsh or not encouraging. We have the tools available to where you can mix together almost anything and I will tell you that there is nothing better than having someone request a song and within a min you are mixing that song in with whatever was playing when they made the request. Part of being a good DJ is reading the crowd and playing to that. I would practice by taking your song list and mixing it differently evertime you practice or just start playing with no plan in sight and just mix. Again, I know its your first gig but the most important thing is to be relaxed and have fun. | Audrey Pinda 04.11.2012 | Really it just comes down to digging deep, and having fun. If you're enjoying yourself, it'll carry over to the crowd and your friends, and just have a blast with it. Stick to your guns and hope people like what you do
Personally I've tried putting together set playlists, and I just can't do it. After playing out live, it's something I enjoy and something that shouldn't be overlooked really; watching the audience and responding to them. I've not gotten it down all the time by any means, but it totally changes my choices for playing certain tracks vs what I might choose to play at home to no audience.
You'll find your own methods of playing live really. I usually set up a playlist of 100 songs or so (this is just for an hour set btw) and usually won't make it through most of them, but I find strength in limiting what I will play, and then going off the cuff with the designated playlist.
If you haven't given mixed in key or harmonic mixing a chance, I really suggest that highly as well. It's not perfect, and you can't always adhere to it, but it's something else I've come to enjoy while mixing.
Really though it's about having fun, and don't sweat a couple technical mistakes / issues if they come up | Nannette Doniger 04.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Dj Havik
I feel more comfortable playing a prepared mix so I know what song I should play next. I haven't recorded the mix I plan on mixing live.
If its a friends party I wouldn't worry all that much just try to relax and enjoy it, if you make a mistake and everyone looks at you, smile, laugh and give yourself a clap then get back to business. At a party ppl will generally just laugh along with you! | Georgiann Bayze 04.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
When you say you prepared a 3 hour mix, do you mean you prerecorded a 3 hour mix that you plan on playing or that you have practiced mixing the same set over and over again that is 3 hours long and you plan on mixing that again? In all honesty, and IMO anything more than having a playlist of music you want to play is TOOOO much preparation. Any experienced DJ will tell you that planning every single aspect of your mix takes the fun out of the entire Dj experience because unless you are practicing the same 3 hour mix to eventually record it, your mix should never sound the same way twice. Plus when you are DJing most events and especially at a friends party, you will get requests and you will get a lot of pissed off people if you don't play their requests. You have to remember, you are there for the them, they are not there for you, don't get caught up in your own agenda that you have to play this song after that song because thats the way you practiced it. A good DJ needs to play for the crowd and to be able to adapt. You may have a 3 hour deep house set and they want to hear gangnam style, now what are you going to do? Tell them that you can't play it because thats not how your practiced 3 hour set is supposed to be?
I feel more comfortable playing a prepared mix so I know what song I should play next. I haven't recorded the mix I plan on mixing live. | Erica Charvet 04.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
IMO anything more than having a playlist of music you want to play is TOOOO much preparation.
Definitely not. Having your loops, cues, beatgrids, markers, and comments set up on your main tracks can really take your mix to the next level and only improves your ability to be spontaneous. |
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