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why do you have to torrent if you want high quality music Posted on: 13.03.2011 by Marguerite Truka I have been trying to find lossless music on the internet to buy with 24 bit audio not 18 bit like on cd. As traktor does do 24 bit audio. The only people offering this quality are torrent site y wont the big companies acually release these files for sale R.I.P Oink.cd
Kiyoko Wellisch 08.11.2012	Originally Posted by Conall 24 bit audio is totally OTT imo, 99% of the people that buy it wont even have a sound system they can tell the difference on. Even on a properly set up F1 system theres probably a very small ammount of people that could tell the difference between 16/24 bit. I use FLAC's and WAV's when possible but the majority of my collection is 320kbit mp3, any lower than that and yeah it sounds shit on a proper sound system. There's a few other advantages though, such as the ability to edit and re-compress over and over again with no loss in quality. The only reason for lossy compression is that you can get a smaller filesize than with lossless compression. I have over 800GB of unused storage and if that ever runs out I'll buy another TB for pretty much nothing- storage is never going to be an issue for me. So what advantage does using mp3s offer me? None at all. There is no good reason for me to be using mp3s other than their availability.
Maximina Daspit 07.11.2012	Originally Posted by tombruton69 I have been trying to find lossless music on the internet to buy with 24 bit audio not 18 bit like on cd. As traktor does do 24 bit audio. The only people offering this quality are torrent site y wont the big companies acually release these files for sale R.I.P Oink.cd I usually try the record labels web store they usually have at least 320kbps.
Genoveva Bopp 07.11.2012	Originally Posted by tombruton69 Sky dont do slower than 20 meg these days so I would get on the phone and say you want to switch supplier and they will offer u 20meg for free. That is my connection with about 10 other users on. Can get upto 1gig per second. Just looked the slowest virgin do is 10meg. orange slowest is 20, bt is 20 These are some of the most popuar braodband choices in the UK. This speaks for its self about speeds. Yes there are slower times of the day, however the speed is still there. Yes places in europe are ahead of us there is a 75 year old lady from sweeden with about 100gig connection now Looking at the latency of 3ms I would say the speedtest server is hosted within the same colo has the gig link. 3ms is a very low round trip time. The other ISP's speeds are advertised as "upto" as it's distance dependant and have never been a minimum speed
Lina Rawie 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by ichitaka I kinda have the feeling that every country believes that. but maybe because no country updated their copyright laws in the last 10 years. I dunno man. I believe you could objectively say that the UK's are some of the worst. I can't legally rip a CD I've bought to MP3s to play on my PC/phone/mp3 player. I can't legally rip DVDs or Blu-Rays in order to stream them to my TV. I can keep a single backup of computer software. And look at the digital DJ license we have here - the ProDub License. Unless you are a fitness instructor who is using music for workout sessions, the cheapest license cost is
Fatimah Czuprynski 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by DJSigma We have some of the most outdated and stringent copyright laws in the world and they're badly in need of reform! I kinda have the feeling that every country believes that. but maybe because no country updated their copyright laws in the last 10 years.
Salvatore Husley 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by DJSigma What you're doing is basically piracy though because you are buying an original, copying it, then selling the original and keeping the copy. Exactly. You are almost stealing.
Lina Rawie 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by D-Kem Well I'll admit I haven't looked into the legality of it but I find it hard to believe that making a copy of music you've purchased for personal use is illegal. Shane i'm off to work now but if you have any links to UK copyright law regarding this then i'd be intrigued. I'm not ripping to share but making a copy of something i've purchased. In the UK you're not even legally allowed to rip a CD to MP3s for your own use. You are legally allowed to make a backup of computer programs, but not music or video. We have some of the most outdated and stringent copyright laws in the world and they're badly in need of reform! What you're doing is basically piracy though because you are buying an original, copying it, then selling the original and keeping the copy.
Fatimah Czuprynski 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by Shane Says FYI not legal That depends in which country you live. here in germany you could do this copy (it's called then privat copy) because you don't share it and since you bought the vinyl you are allowed to play it.
Salvatore Husley 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by D-Kem I have also bought new stuff on vinyl simply to rip then stick back on Discogs. Paying almost the same price for a lossless release than it costs for a release on the vinyl itself is simply dead money. FYI not legal This is a very subjective thing. I haven't read the whole thread but here is what I believe. I kind of compare it to food. Some people are fine with constantly eating cheap, low quality food. Some people are all about getting the best stuff they can find and are willing to pay more for it. Which one are you? Does it matter what the other guy does? Are you going to keep going back to listen to a guy that rips youtube videos? If you are the DJ are you going to serve low, mid, or high quality stuff to your customers? Like I said it's subjective.
Erica Charvet 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by MuzicFreq Funktion1 = Lossless only Anything else = mp3 320 Sigh I can only hope this is a joke. If it is, excellent trololo!
Kiyoko Wellisch 08.11.2012	Originally Posted by Conall 24 bit audio is totally OTT imo, 99% of the people that buy it wont even have a sound system they can tell the difference on. Even on a properly set up F1 system theres probably a very small ammount of people that could tell the difference between 16/24 bit. I use FLAC's and WAV's when possible but the majority of my collection is 320kbit mp3, any lower than that and yeah it sounds shit on a proper sound system. There's a few other advantages though, such as the ability to edit and re-compress over and over again with no loss in quality. The only reason for lossy compression is that you can get a smaller filesize than with lossless compression. I have over 800GB of unused storage and if that ever runs out I'll buy another TB for pretty much nothing- storage is never going to be an issue for me. So what advantage does using mp3s offer me? None at all. There is no good reason for me to be using mp3s other than their availability.
Maximina Daspit 07.11.2012	Originally Posted by tombruton69 I have been trying to find lossless music on the internet to buy with 24 bit audio not 18 bit like on cd. As traktor does do 24 bit audio. The only people offering this quality are torrent site y wont the big companies acually release these files for sale R.I.P Oink.cd I usually try the record labels web store they usually have at least 320kbps.
Genoveva Bopp 07.11.2012	Originally Posted by tombruton69 Sky dont do slower than 20 meg these days so I would get on the phone and say you want to switch supplier and they will offer u 20meg for free. That is my connection with about 10 other users on. Can get upto 1gig per second. Just looked the slowest virgin do is 10meg. orange slowest is 20, bt is 20 These are some of the most popuar braodband choices in the UK. This speaks for its self about speeds. Yes there are slower times of the day, however the speed is still there. Yes places in europe are ahead of us there is a 75 year old lady from sweeden with about 100gig connection now Looking at the latency of 3ms I would say the speedtest server is hosted within the same colo has the gig link. 3ms is a very low round trip time. The other ISP's speeds are advertised as "upto" as it's distance dependant and have never been a minimum speed
Danae Dumler 07.11.2012	http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
Salvatore Husley 07.11.2012	As these releases tend to be limited pressings I have never considered it unethical due to the fact that they sell out and usually someone else benefits too. That is the artists choice though. They may not want a lot of people to have it. If they were surprised at the demand they would typically repress it if they wanted everyone to have it. Either way obviously do want you believe is right.
Latoria Kavulich 06.11.2012	No specific sites guys.
Laurel Litchko 06.11.2012	cough cough....What.CD
Lauretta Ehrhorn 06.11.2012	I own over 10000 records, have spent time ripping a reasonable percentage and simply have run out of space in my house for new and old records. I have supported various artists over two decades and spent a small fortune doing so. The newer pieces I buy on vinyl these days tend to be vinyl only releases and it's the only way to have a digital version. As these releases tend to be limited pressings I have never considered it unethical due to the fact that they sell out and usually someone else benefits too. It's not like these releases are sitting in Juno waiting to be bought. They're usually all gone. It is however illegal so I'm going to stop. At work still so can't dig out the article but DJTT did a piece on the merits of buying and ripping 2nd vinyl some time ago. Wonder if there was a disclaimer or warning regarding different laws for different countries. It's all got a bit off topic anyway. Hope I've cleared up where I'm at. I believe it's far more abhorrent taking a piece from a charity shop for peanuts when you know it's worth a small fortune personally and I've overpaid the local manager many times.
Salvatore Husley 06.11.2012	That's awful. I personally don't care about the law as much as what is right. If it's a physical medium only I believe all artists, distributors, and shops should get paid. If you are ripping and selling then you are fucking all those people including the people who make the the physical product.
Lina Rawie 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by ichitaka I kinda have the feeling that every country believes that. but maybe because no country updated their copyright laws in the last 10 years. I dunno man. I believe you could objectively say that the UK's are some of the worst. I can't legally rip a CD I've bought to MP3s to play on my PC/phone/mp3 player. I can't legally rip DVDs or Blu-Rays in order to stream them to my TV. I can keep a single backup of computer software. And look at the digital DJ license we have here - the ProDub License. Unless you are a fitness instructor who is using music for workout sessions, the cheapest license cost is
Fatimah Czuprynski 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by DJSigma We have some of the most outdated and stringent copyright laws in the world and they're badly in need of reform! I kinda have the feeling that every country believes that. but maybe because no country updated their copyright laws in the last 10 years.
Salvatore Husley 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by DJSigma What you're doing is basically piracy though because you are buying an original, copying it, then selling the original and keeping the copy. Exactly. You are almost stealing.
Lina Rawie 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by D-Kem Well I'll admit I haven't looked into the legality of it but I find it hard to believe that making a copy of music you've purchased for personal use is illegal. Shane i'm off to work now but if you have any links to UK copyright law regarding this then i'd be intrigued. I'm not ripping to share but making a copy of something i've purchased. In the UK you're not even legally allowed to rip a CD to MP3s for your own use. You are legally allowed to make a backup of computer programs, but not music or video. We have some of the most outdated and stringent copyright laws in the world and they're badly in need of reform! What you're doing is basically piracy though because you are buying an original, copying it, then selling the original and keeping the copy.
Lauretta Ehrhorn 06.11.2012	Well I'll admit I haven't looked into the legality of it but I find it hard to believe that making a copy of music you've purchased for personal use is illegal. Shane i'm off to work now but if you have any links to UK copyright law regarding this then i'd be intrigued. I'm not ripping to share but making a copy of something i've purchased.
Fatimah Czuprynski 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by Shane Says FYI not legal That depends in which country you live. here in germany you could do this copy (it's called then privat copy) because you don't share it and since you bought the vinyl you are allowed to play it.
Salvatore Husley 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by D-Kem I have also bought new stuff on vinyl simply to rip then stick back on Discogs. Paying almost the same price for a lossless release than it costs for a release on the vinyl itself is simply dead money. FYI not legal This is a very subjective thing. I haven't read the whole thread but here is what I believe. I kind of compare it to food. Some people are fine with constantly eating cheap, low quality food. Some people are all about getting the best stuff they can find and are willing to pay more for it. Which one are you? Does it matter what the other guy does? Are you going to keep going back to listen to a guy that rips youtube videos? If you are the DJ are you going to serve low, mid, or high quality stuff to your customers? Like I said it's subjective.
Lauretta Ehrhorn 06.11.2012	Interesting thread. The most cost effective way of finding high quality and cheap music is trawling charity shops and car boots, then ripping the vinyl to your computer. Shelf the wax, practice with the recording at home and save the record for your gigs. I have also bought new stuff on vinyl simply to rip then stick back on Discogs. Paying almost the same price for a lossless release than it costs for a release on the vinyl itself is simply dead money.
Erica Charvet 06.11.2012	Originally Posted by MuzicFreq Funktion1 = Lossless only Anything else = mp3 320 Sigh I can only hope this is a joke. If it is, excellent trololo!
Tatum Ansaldo 05.11.2012	On 24bit, 96Khz and all that... Sound quality - the science.
Margie Pavell 05.11.2012	how low would you like the prices to be?
Lina Rawie 05.11.2012	Originally Posted by dima338 Why not promote the use of lossless in the first place (or at least properly encoded lossy files) amongst the masses of DJs out there instead. I do! I wrote this, for example: - http://www.djcommunity s.com/community s/showt...rates-tagging) There's nothing worse than a DJ who doesn't know how to record properly, or one that does record properly, then ruins their mix by encoding it in mono at 96 Kbps, lol.
Maegan Flotron 05.11.2012	As if the Lossless / Lossy debate wasn't enough, people are wanting 24bit... I understand everything about how some people have high-end systems and claim to hear the difference between lossless and lossy + there are other advantages of lossless - but 24bit? Do you seriously need it? Why not promote the use of lossless in the first place (or at least properly encoded lossy files) amongst the masses of DJs out there instead. Sorry but 24bit is the biggest waste of time/space ever, the only argument is that it's the 'proper/raw' file
Lina Rawie 05.11.2012	I hate having to download music with things being the way they are now. I would much prefer to own a record or CD - even a tape is preferable to an MP3 for me. I would consider using online download stores more if the following happened: - 1. Prices were lower. Considering your digital files are worth
Venetta Cawyer 05.11.2012	Originally Posted by MuzicFreq Funktion1 = Lossless only Anything else = mp3 320 Spoken like a person with very little PA experience.. But yeah, I agree that when you want quality music, you have to buy it on vinyl. I like Dodge & Fuski's latest EP. I want it on vinyl. They don't even sell the vinyl. Buying the .wavs on Beatport costs me about
Corie Murtagh 05.11.2012	haha you guys are funny saying oink is dead. just got renamed guys. they offer a spectral with there 24 bit music most of the time too. but ya it sucks a ton of sites don't offer it. thats why I'm getting into buying vinyl. forget CD's and iTunes they are worthless
Hang Postman 17.03.2011	To get perfect 24 bit you rip the vinyl on to the computer, this is how people usually get the 24 bit, considering vinyl is vinyl, and not a file
Marguerite Truka 17.03.2011	yes it is though janet. not all the servers used are on the janet network. it is pritty much directly of a main server line. This service is limited to certain students. The main reason for this stupidly fast speed is that we need to download hdd images of clients(ie a whole computer and everything on it) to multiple systems. Alot of them are hosted by a lan server for obv reasons. sometimes we will need to whipe a system and start again 3 or 4 times in an hour normally that would be about 40gig of downloaded data, I believe due to licencing reasons they cant be hosted on the uni servers. So it is 1gig but its not that simple, I believe there is a throttling system per mac address, I have had 3 machines all downloading at 100gig per second
Delma Tuskey 17.03.2011	Originally Posted by tombruton69 No I mean a gigabit. It is shared with others tho, however cant complain as its free. Never seen over about 100meg per second download or upload speed Is the LAN gigabit - i dont believe anywhere in the UK has gigabit internet as yet. The reason you are getting really high speeds is cos you are at uni halls?? most uni's connect into JANET which tends to get rediculous speeds usually up into the 80-90mbit/sec. I used to work in a uni and we had an open, fast network - oh those were the days!!
Marguerite Truka 16.03.2011	I know the advertised speeds are rarely achievable however the actual speeds by law should be comparable to this figure however i do know isp's are in trouble atm for misleading ppl
Marguerite Truka 16.03.2011	Originally Posted by deevey Hope you mean one Megabyte per second ? No I mean a gigabit. It is shared with others tho, however cant complain as its free. Never seen over about 100meg per second download or upload speed

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