Traktor Pro 2 Sync Reset

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Traktor Pro 2 Sync Reset
Posted on: 08.04.2011 by Milagro Maristela
.... Been searching, couldn't find topic relating to it directly.

When i used to load a track, i used to double tap the sync button on my X1 as a short cut to matching the tempo, as in the tempo's used to match and stay there, but I'd do the actual sync by ear. Traktor 2 however, resets the sync'ed tempo when it's deselected, major annoyance! NI, won't respond to the tickets.... sigh, anyone believe of a way round this?

Rye
Lael Blacke
01.12.2012		Hey Folks, I understood the whole thing and I also prefer to beatmatch by myself. There Is one thing I can
Lael Blacke
01.12.2012		Hey Folks, I understood the whole thing and I also prefer to beatmatch by myself. There Is one thing I can
Lael Blacke
01.12.2012		Hey Folks, I understood the whole thing and I also prefer to beatmatch by myself. There Is one thing I can
Dorcas Bassignani
24.04.2011
Originally Posted by wrigh_a
its a workaround to start the track with sync on then turn the sync button off and then resume with your cue points. but its a pointless extra steps thats shouldnt be needed when you just want to match the pitch only
FFS

don't have to do any of that!!

just map tempo sync instead of beat sync to the sync button on controller, and switch it in prefs as well to be safe.

i have

tempo sync
> button
> trigger (know i put hold further up, but was looking at the wrong bit when posted earlier)
> [assignment]

tap it, it flashes on/off, sets the pitch and it stays set regardless of what you do!!

Kristofer Krauel
25.04.2011
Originally Posted by MaxOne
OK

deck A is 121 and deck B is 122

deck A is playing 121, deck B has 122 loading in but isnt playing.

press sync (in both TempoSync and BeatSync) and deck B changes to 121.

press sync again on deck B while deck isn't playing and it reverts to 122

SOLUTION:

synced deck B, started playing track then turned sync off. Now deck B stays at 121 even if sync is on or off.

(I believe this works anyway)
This is how it works. whats all the fuss about? Press sync(on)>Press play>Press sync(off)>Beat match til your hearts content.

I may have missed something withing this thread so i apologise if im just stating the obvious!!
Dorcas Bassignani
24.04.2011
Originally Posted by MaxOne
OK

deck A is 121 and deck B is 122

deck A is playing 121, deck B has 122 loading in but isnt playing.

press sync (in both TempoSync and BeatSync) and deck B changes to 121.

press sync again on deck B while deck isn't playing and it reverts to 122

SOLUTION:

synced deck B, started playing track then turned sync off. Now deck B stays at 121 even if sync is on or off.

(I believe this works anyway)
i just have a tepo sync button on hold, so it flashed on/off. tempo stays locked and then i phase it by ear and good timing
Dorcas Bassignani
24.04.2011
Originally Posted by MaxOne
Man... this is driving me nuts!!!

Is this just how it is now? If i turn on sync it resets the bpm?!!! That sucks balls!

I can't figure this out but it's a major issue
yes/no.

beatsync will set the correct tempo and phase lock when starts playing, resets pitch if turned off...

tempo sync will set the tempo and it will stay set whether on/off
Milagro Maristela
12.04.2011
Originally Posted by BradCee
to split hairs or not...?
Haha suppose i am , but a lot of the things people are talking about are getting really in depth about sync/tempo/phase/matching...... I JUST WANT MY OLD SYNC BUTTON BACK!! lol
Dorcas Bassignani
12.04.2011
Originally Posted by influxrye
It's simpler that, it is just so we don't have to physically match the tempo using the slider(s), but still want to beatmatch ourselves....
to split hairs or not...?
Milagro Maristela
12.04.2011
Originally Posted by D_G_
I believe I understand. This wasn't clear to me because when you use vinyl control you can easily start a track out of phase. I assumed that the same applied to "just hitting play".

It appears to me that the quantize makes a difference here. With quantize on it seems I can only start a track synced to the nearest beat (grid).

Turning quantize off (leaving tempo sync on) seems to allow what you want: A tempo synced track that starts as soon as you hit play, no matter how out of phase is it.

EDIT: Though, now I believe about it, it's automatic for me to start something on beat so potentially this does also occur with vinyl control. I'd have to check.
It's simpler that, it is just so we don't have to physically match the tempo using the slider(s), but still want to beatmatch ourselves....
Augustus Nestegard
11.04.2011
Originally Posted by D_G_
Assuming you're using temposync, why do you feel the need to turn the sync off if you want the tempo to be matched?
Because, like I mentioned, temposynced will still start the stracks synced up, it just wont keep them there if you alter the tracks pitch. This is all good I guess if you have great grids and whatever but I personally don't like having them synced up like that to start but maybe thats just me.
Dorcas Bassignani
11.04.2011
Originally Posted by McKidson
Thankyou for posting this as i have had the same trouble. Why would NI change what was one of the fundamental things that made traktor king?
i remember the same complaints when ppl swapped from TDJ3 to TP1. you'll get used to it and find it's not as bad as it seems
Lael Blacke
01.12.2012		Hey Folks, I understood the whole thing and I also prefer to beatmatch by myself. There Is one thing I can
Ammie Deni
26.04.2011		I believe i get the gist of that one. Are you able to post the mappings needed to reset all 4 decks and then i just add them into the mappings section?

Many thanks in advance
Dorcas Bassignani
24.04.2011
Originally Posted by wrigh_a
its a workaround to start the track with sync on then turn the sync button off and then resume with your cue points. but its a pointless extra steps thats shouldnt be needed when you just want to match the pitch only
FFS

don't have to do any of that!!

just map tempo sync instead of beat sync to the sync button on controller, and switch it in prefs as well to be safe.

i have

tempo sync
> button
> trigger (know i put hold further up, but was looking at the wrong bit when posted earlier)
> [assignment]

tap it, it flashes on/off, sets the pitch and it stays set regardless of what you do!!

Ammie Deni
24.04.2011		its a workaround to start the track with sync on then turn the sync button off and then resume with your cue points. but its a pointless extra steps thats shouldnt be needed when you just want to match the pitch only
Kristofer Krauel
25.04.2011
Originally Posted by MaxOne
OK

deck A is 121 and deck B is 122

deck A is playing 121, deck B has 122 loading in but isnt playing.

press sync (in both TempoSync and BeatSync) and deck B changes to 121.

press sync again on deck B while deck isn't playing and it reverts to 122

SOLUTION:

synced deck B, started playing track then turned sync off. Now deck B stays at 121 even if sync is on or off.

(I believe this works anyway)
This is how it works. whats all the fuss about? Press sync(on)>Press play>Press sync(off)>Beat match til your hearts content.

I may have missed something withing this thread so i apologise if im just stating the obvious!!
Dorcas Bassignani
24.04.2011
Originally Posted by MaxOne
OK

deck A is 121 and deck B is 122

deck A is playing 121, deck B has 122 loading in but isnt playing.

press sync (in both TempoSync and BeatSync) and deck B changes to 121.

press sync again on deck B while deck isn't playing and it reverts to 122

SOLUTION:

synced deck B, started playing track then turned sync off. Now deck B stays at 121 even if sync is on or off.

(I believe this works anyway)
i just have a tepo sync button on hold, so it flashed on/off. tempo stays locked and then i phase it by ear and good timing
Hipolito Scionti
24.04.2011		OK

deck A is 121 and deck B is 122

deck A is playing 121, deck B has 122 loading in but isnt playing.

press sync (in both TempoSync and BeatSync) and deck B changes to 121.

press sync again on deck B while deck isn't playing and it reverts to 122

SOLUTION:

synced deck B, started playing track then turned sync off. Now deck B stays at 121 even if sync is on or off.

(I believe this works anyway)
Dorcas Bassignani
24.04.2011
Originally Posted by MaxOne
Man... this is driving me nuts!!!

Is this just how it is now? If i turn on sync it resets the bpm?!!! That sucks balls!

I can't figure this out but it's a major issue
yes/no.

beatsync will set the correct tempo and phase lock when starts playing, resets pitch if turned off...

tempo sync will set the tempo and it will stay set whether on/off
Hipolito Scionti
24.04.2011		Man... this is driving me nuts!!!

Is this just how it is now? If i turn on sync it resets the bpm?!!! That sucks balls!

I can't figure this out but it's a major issue
Milagro Maristela
12.04.2011
Originally Posted by BradCee
to split hairs or not...?
Haha suppose i am , but a lot of the things people are talking about are getting really in depth about sync/tempo/phase/matching...... I JUST WANT MY OLD SYNC BUTTON BACK!! lol
Dorcas Bassignani
12.04.2011
Originally Posted by influxrye
It's simpler that, it is just so we don't have to physically match the tempo using the slider(s), but still want to beatmatch ourselves....
to split hairs or not...?
Milagro Maristela
12.04.2011
Originally Posted by D_G_
I believe I understand. This wasn't clear to me because when you use vinyl control you can easily start a track out of phase. I assumed that the same applied to "just hitting play".

It appears to me that the quantize makes a difference here. With quantize on it seems I can only start a track synced to the nearest beat (grid).

Turning quantize off (leaving tempo sync on) seems to allow what you want: A tempo synced track that starts as soon as you hit play, no matter how out of phase is it.

EDIT: Though, now I believe about it, it's automatic for me to start something on beat so potentially this does also occur with vinyl control. I'd have to check.
It's simpler that, it is just so we don't have to physically match the tempo using the slider(s), but still want to beatmatch ourselves....
Von Rydberg
11.04.2011		I believe I understand. This wasn't clear to me because when you use vinyl control you can easily start a track out of phase. I assumed that the same applied to "just hitting play".

It appears to me that the quantize makes a difference here. With quantize on it seems I can only start a track synced to the nearest beat (grid).

Turning quantize off (leaving tempo sync on) seems to allow what you want: A tempo synced track that starts as soon as you hit play, no matter how out of phase is it.

EDIT: Though, now I believe about it, it's automatic for me to start something on beat so potentially this does also occur with vinyl control. I'd have to check.
Augustus Nestegard
11.04.2011
Originally Posted by D_G_
Assuming you're using temposync, why do you feel the need to turn the sync off if you want the tempo to be matched?
Because, like I mentioned, temposynced will still start the stracks synced up, it just wont keep them there if you alter the tracks pitch. This is all good I guess if you have great grids and whatever but I personally don't like having them synced up like that to start but maybe thats just me.
Von Rydberg
12.04.2011		Assuming you're using temposync, why do you feel the need to turn the sync off if you want the tempo to be matched?
Julietta Mistretta
11.04.2011		another restart of my tp2 seemed to have reset it back to the old way, so now im a bit confused.

after reading http://traktorbible.com/en/t2_syncmodes.aspx i understand the differences between the two, but i do not understand why turning the sync off resets the tracks bpm. *that* is what i need to get back to. is it possible to even edit the S4 mapping to take care of this? or am i going to need an additional device like mentioned above (x1, apc40, etc)
Dorcas Bassignani
11.04.2011
Originally Posted by McKidson
Thankyou for posting this as i have had the same trouble. Why would NI change what was one of the fundamental things that made traktor king?
i remember the same complaints when ppl swapped from TDJ3 to TP1. you'll get used to it and find it's not as bad as it seems
Esmeralda Metro
11.04.2011		Thankyou for posting this as i have had the same trouble. Why would NI change what was one of the fundamental things that made traktor king?
Augustus Nestegard
11.04.2011		^ Tempo Sync (at least for me) Starts the tracks off in phase sync with each other. I purposely would have sync on in TempoSync mode and start the second deck on the off beat and Traktor makes it so they start beatmatched (or grid matched at least). Now if you mess with the tempo of the track it won't throw it back in Sync but still it starts it with it matched regardless of the timing you actually start the track.
Joan Kollmorgen
11.04.2011
Originally Posted by influxrye
Because we don't actually want the sync feature for anything else other than a quick shortcut to match bpm's.

Thanks for that guide.... gonna leave it for the minute though and see if we can drum up enough fuss to get NI to put in a work around.
Like mentioned before if all your wanting to do is match the tempo of a playing track then map your sync button to "Tempo Sync". This will match the tempo's but it wont sync them.

I personally have Beat Sync (set to hold) and Tempo Sync both mapped to the same sync button as this recreates how I've always used the sync button in previous versions of Traktor.
Milagro Maristela
11.04.2011
Originally Posted by BradCee
the hold interaction keeps turned in for as long as you hold the button in, turns off on release.
which is how I mapped it, using tempo sync from drop down menu in controller management.
And not seen any of the issues coming up in this thread
Yeah, i know what you mean.... there is still the odd occasion where i'll use sync, so it's set up the way i want by default.
Dorcas Bassignani
11.04.2011
Originally Posted by influxrye
Because we don't actually want the sync feature for anything else other than a quick shortcut to match bpm's.

Thanks for that guide.... gonna leave it for the minute though and see if we can drum up enough fuss to get NI to put in a work around.
the hold interaction keeps turned in for as long as you hold the button in, turns off on release.
which is how I mapped it, using tempo sync from drop down menu in controller management.
And not seen any of the issues coming up in this thread
Ammie Deni
10.04.2011		found this article

http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...d.php?t=136108

i'll be honest though dont really follow it. would love anyone who has found a solution to this?>
Milagro Maristela
10.04.2011
Originally Posted by BradCee
why double tap? why not map as hold and press it once?
Because we don't actually want the sync feature for anything else other than a quick shortcut to match bpm's.

Thanks for that guide.... gonna leave it for the minute though and see if we can drum up enough fuss to get NI to put in a work around.
Dorcas Bassignani
10.04.2011		why double tap? why not map as hold and press it once?
Genie Sebring
10.04.2011		I got it working like Traktor Pro
my guide is here:
http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=28158
Desiree Logie
10.04.2011
Originally Posted by completej
whether using temposync or beatsync, as soon as you click OFF sync, it goes back to the original bpm.

next?
It was meant as a serious reply to what op wants to do. With tempo sync, op can leave sync on and then match the phase by ear.
Julietta Mistretta
09.04.2011		haha!

perhaps a reload of TP2 is necessary after making that change? odd, but upon reloading TP2, it works now.

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