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Traktor 2: Delay/reverb into freeze
Posted on: 25.11.2012 by Jin Alcedo
Hey guys, I know I've seen this before but I can't find it anymore. I'm working on a mapping for Traktor 2 and my APC40 and I want to turn on the freeze button for the reverb and delay when the dry/wet-knob hits 100%. Does anybody know how this works? Best
Jin Alcedo
04.12.2012
Originally Posted by VanGogo
Using a modifier set to fader/knob and mapped to your fader/knob
Interaction mode-relative
Rotary sensitivity-25%
Rotary acceleration-0%

Then map the Fx button to the same knob/fader (map as a button)
With the modifier=6 , interaction mode direct,and set value at 0

Then map the button again
with the modifier=7 and set to value at 1

And map the dry/wet to the same knob.
AWESOME! this works perfectly fine for me. even if i turn the knob really fast. of course it would be cleaner without modifiers but i it's good for now. thank you all so much!
Charline Dye
01.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Hey Gogo, I'm sure I don't need modifier to achieve this in my mapping. I use only two button commands with different interaction mode settings and it's affecting every time - no matter how fast fader is moving. I assume that's mainly related to your modifier setup.
Yes moving the knob or fader too fast will cause Traktor to miss the state change from 6-7(to turn on) and 7-6( to turn off)
I have seen the video before, good stuff!

Can you share the mapping commands for your super fader? I know my way around Traktor mapping ok, but cannot figure out how you have done it with out a modifier, Bomes, or a firmware change.
Kellie Myrum
01.12.2012
Originally Posted by muffintop
Maybe try setting the freeze button to hold and set it to the knob and check the invert box. That way it should kick in when the knob gets all the way up and turn off when you turn it down
This way it will be on all the time until the knob is back to 100%... I got no problem for sharing parameters but like I said in this case there isn't exact way to map it in, it takes some time till settings are right.
Jin Alcedo
01.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
I'm sure. Also I'm sure this regards to tricky mappings where you can't determine one exact way to do this because I have tried to re-map same settings to other controllers then mine and it didn't worked. I believe this somehow got to do with different fader resolutions.
ok thanks, at least this lets me still hoping
Jin Alcedo
02.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
There's no need for modifier in that case. Setting button to engage when knob is at 100% should do the trick. This idea comes from DJTT VCI-100 custom mapping where flanger-pulse kicks in on fader FX.
are you sure it's not the other way around? when knob is at 0% the button/effect/whatever is off and above on. then you can inverse it so at 0% it's on and above off. but this does not solve the problem to be off from 0%-99% and on at 100%.
Jin Alcedo
04.12.2012
@stewe: sorry, i don't get the logic quite well. i have 2 modifiers, one changes the values from 0 to 7 and the other one from 7 to 0. and then?
Jin Alcedo
04.12.2012
Originally Posted by VanGogo
Using a modifier set to fader/knob and mapped to your fader/knob
Interaction mode-relative
Rotary sensitivity-25%
Rotary acceleration-0%

Then map the Fx button to the same knob/fader (map as a button)
With the modifier=6 , interaction mode direct,and set value at 0

Then map the button again
with the modifier=7 and set to value at 1

And map the dry/wet to the same knob.
AWESOME! this works perfectly fine for me. even if i turn the knob really fast. of course it would be cleaner without modifiers but i it's good for now. thank you all so much!
Kellie Myrum
02.12.2012
I use only controller manager to create my mappings so I didn't use Bomes or changed firmware but I did use modifier to replicate superfader behavior - it's the echo-out thing where modifier isn't necessary.

Make sure to set modifier to change between to values at fader center using relative mode (0 > 7) and add another modifier inverted to first one (7 > 0) and that should do the trick. I got this idea while was trying to replicate rmx-1000 isolate FX feature in Traktor and brought this concept to effects to get superfader result.
Charline Dye
01.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Hey Gogo, I'm sure I don't need modifier to achieve this in my mapping. I use only two button commands with different interaction mode settings and it's affecting every time - no matter how fast fader is moving. I assume that's mainly related to your modifier setup.
Yes moving the knob or fader too fast will cause Traktor to miss the state change from 6-7(to turn on) and 7-6( to turn off)
I have seen the video before, good stuff!

Can you share the mapping commands for your super fader? I know my way around Traktor mapping ok, but cannot figure out how you have done it with out a modifier, Bomes, or a firmware change.
Kellie Myrum
01.12.2012
Check this video I did a while ago. There's echo freeze effect mapped to both sides of fader ends.

Kellie Myrum
01.12.2012
Originally Posted by muffintop
Maybe try setting the freeze button to hold and set it to the knob and check the invert box. That way it should kick in when the knob gets all the way up and turn off when you turn it down
This way it will be on all the time until the knob is back to 100%... I got no problem for sharing parameters but like I said in this case there isn't exact way to map it in, it takes some time till settings are right.
Nana Mohs
01.12.2012
Maybe try setting the freeze button to hold and set it to the knob and check the invert box. That way it should kick in when the knob gets all the way up and turn off when you turn it down
Kellie Myrum
01.12.2012
Hey Gogo, I'm sure I don't need modifier to achieve this in my mapping. I use only two button commands with different interaction mode settings and it's affecting every time - no matter how fast fader is moving. I assume that's mainly related to your modifier setup.
Charline Dye
01.12.2012
The VCI, if I remember right, had a firmware change that enabled fader Fx with another midi "note" to map at the end of the fader movement.
You can have a similar action using just Traktor mapping, but it isn't as reliable as the VCI's. You have to move the knob or fader smoothly and not too fast for it to turn on/off.

Using a modifier set to fader/knob and mapped to your fader/knob
Interaction mode-relative
Rotary sensitivity-25%
Rotary acceleration-0%

Then map the Fx button to the same knob/fader (map as a button)
With the modifier=6 , interaction mode direct,and set value at 0

Then map the button again
with the modifier=7 and set to value at 1

And map the dry/wet to the same knob.
Zetta Radlinger
01.12.2012
you need a extra button to map as the freeze/delay, when ur at 100% on the knob push this button.. like the army of me white noise map
Jin Alcedo
01.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
I'm sure. Also I'm sure this regards to tricky mappings where you can't determine one exact way to do this because I have tried to re-map same settings to other controllers then mine and it didn't worked. I believe this somehow got to do with different fader resolutions.
ok thanks, at least this lets me still hoping
Kellie Myrum
01.12.2012
I'm sure. Also I'm sure this regards to tricky mappings where you can't determine one exact way to do this because I have tried to re-map same settings to other controllers then mine and it didn't worked. I believe this somehow got to do with different fader resolutions.
Jin Alcedo
02.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
There's no need for modifier in that case. Setting button to engage when knob is at 100% should do the trick. This idea comes from DJTT VCI-100 custom mapping where flanger-pulse kicks in on fader FX.
are you sure it's not the other way around? when knob is at 0% the button/effect/whatever is off and above on. then you can inverse it so at 0% it's on and above off. but this does not solve the problem to be off from 0%-99% and on at 100%.
Jin Alcedo
01.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Setting button to engage when knob is at 100% should do the trick
yes that's exactly what i want to to! but how? i will have a look at the vci-100 custom mapping if i can find it.
Jin Alcedo
01.12.2012
Originally Posted by MWagner
you can definitely set a modifier to kick in at various points along the turning radius of a knob. I've seen it done, but I'd have to play around with it when i get home to see exactly how it works. are you using a knob or an encoder for this?
i'm also trying out this right now but i couldn't figure it out yet. i'm using a knob. thanks!
Kellie Myrum
01.12.2012
There's no need for modifier in that case. Setting button to engage when knob is at 100% should do the trick. This idea comes from DJTT VCI-100 custom mapping where flanger-pulse kicks in on fader FX.
Werner Bile
01.12.2012
you can definitely set a modifier to kick in at various points along the turning radius of a knob. I've seen it done, but I'd have to play around with it when i get home to see exactly how it works. are you using a knob or an encoder for this?
Jin Alcedo
01.12.2012
Originally Posted by MWagner
maybe possible if you set a modifier to kick in when you hit 100% and map the knob as a button for the freeze that kicks in when that mod state is triggered.
yea i thought about that too. but i don't get how to map it. don't i have same problem with modifiers too? i mean, i can't really set a value of a modifier corresponding to a specific value of a knob.
Jin Alcedo
01.12.2012
Originally Posted by dual citizen
I could be wrong, but I believe this is only possible if you mod the firmware to make the knob send a separate midi note when it's turned fully to the right. Bomes Midi Translater could perhaps emulate this?
ok thanks, i will have a look!
Werner Bile
01.12.2012
maybe possible if you set a modifier to kick in when you hit 100% and map the knob as a button for the freeze that kicks in when that mod state is triggered.
Randal Biza
01.12.2012
Originally Posted by phawsea
Is there no way to do this?
I could be wrong, but I believe this is only possible if you mod the firmware to make the knob send a separate midi note when it's turned fully to the right. Bomes Midi Translater could perhaps emulate this?
Jin Alcedo
01.12.2012
Is there no way to do this?

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