My second effort!

My second effort!
Posted on: 29.09.2010 by Gregory Finely
Ok this is my second effort after my second Ableton lesson, slightly moved on from the last things i learnt so trying to put that into action, comments pointers always appreciated, it's not mastered it's not complete as i know it needs more space and more filler

http://soundcloud.com/ciar2001/ah-yes
Tressa Schemenauer
01.10.2010
Originally Posted by Sanderbongertman
astonishingly good for your second effort! Few tips:....
+1 on that... I believe Sander has given you some good advice regarding the structure of your track... Here are some other aspects to consider:

1. Transitions. Keep them within the correct phrasing of the whole track. Create a little anticipation (tension) in the track by announcing when they're coming... so when your bass line drops maybe add a high frequency sweep or reverse cymbal type sound a couple of notes before. Likewise when you release the tension there are also opportunities for announcement as well.. obviously you'll have to be careful to select sounds that match the vibe of your track. Organic series sample packs might be good for this vibe.

2. Sound quality. If your track is going to be played in clubs with half-way decent sound systems you can vary up your bass line a bit more... don't be afraid to go down deeper into the sub-bass range.. just keep it tight, positive phase, and in mono. A little bit of compression is good down there but don't overdo it.. you might not be able to even hear what you're doing in these frequencies without a system capable of producing enough SPL in this frequency range.

3. Stereo Spread. You can add zest by adding some light mid-high and high frequency stereo chorus and delays sparingly.. less is more.

I'd have to finish by saying that I wish my second attempt was just half this good!! Cheers!
Carli Halsall
30.09.2010
Originally Posted by Ciar2001
Cheers for the comments gents, I am currently learning how to bring in variation, that's the stage I am at infact last evening i started to go over the track again changing things up and doing just what you have mentioned

thank you again for the comments, will believe about what you mentioned Sander thank you..
Looking forward to hear the next version! Let me know
Gregory Finely
29.09.2010
Ok this is my second effort after my second Ableton lesson, slightly moved on from the last things i learnt so trying to put that into action, comments pointers always appreciated, it's not mastered it's not complete as i know it needs more space and more filler

http://soundcloud.com/ciar2001/ah-yes
Tressa Schemenauer
01.10.2010
Originally Posted by Sanderbongertman
astonishingly good for your second effort! Few tips:....
+1 on that... I believe Sander has given you some good advice regarding the structure of your track... Here are some other aspects to consider:

1. Transitions. Keep them within the correct phrasing of the whole track. Create a little anticipation (tension) in the track by announcing when they're coming... so when your bass line drops maybe add a high frequency sweep or reverse cymbal type sound a couple of notes before. Likewise when you release the tension there are also opportunities for announcement as well.. obviously you'll have to be careful to select sounds that match the vibe of your track. Organic series sample packs might be good for this vibe.

2. Sound quality. If your track is going to be played in clubs with half-way decent sound systems you can vary up your bass line a bit more... don't be afraid to go down deeper into the sub-bass range.. just keep it tight, positive phase, and in mono. A little bit of compression is good down there but don't overdo it.. you might not be able to even hear what you're doing in these frequencies without a system capable of producing enough SPL in this frequency range.

3. Stereo Spread. You can add zest by adding some light mid-high and high frequency stereo chorus and delays sparingly.. less is more.

I'd have to finish by saying that I wish my second attempt was just half this good!! Cheers!
Carli Halsall
30.09.2010
Originally Posted by Ciar2001
Cheers for the comments gents, I am currently learning how to bring in variation, that's the stage I am at infact last evening i started to go over the track again changing things up and doing just what you have mentioned

thank you again for the comments, will believe about what you mentioned Sander thank you..
Looking forward to hear the next version! Let me know
Gregory Finely
30.09.2010
Cheers for the comments gents, I am currently learning how to bring in variation, that's the stage I am at infact last evening i started to go over the track again changing things up and doing just what you have mentioned

thank you again for the comments, will believe about what you mentioned Sander thank you..
Verona Fashbaugh
29.09.2010
Not bad for you second run. As was mentioned I would certainly go for a little more variation in your drum loops. A little off-beat kick or snare here and there does wonders to indicate a transition, or even just to mix it up.

Other than being a little repetitive, this is quite solid. Nice work.
Leeanna Ayla
29.09.2010
He's right, while it is good and don't believe there's anything wrong with the hi hats, I probably wouldn't buy It. The first one though, I will buy once it's finished and polished up this one just needs more variation.
Carli Halsall
29.09.2010
astonishingly good for your second effort! Few tips:

Try to break the track down more into segments so you get a breakdown, more of an intro and outro etc. Doing this also makes up my second point which is to get a little bit more variation in your track. But again, this is really good. With a few improvements it would be good enough for a release. If you're interested in that hit me a PM and we'll make it happen in the future

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