Dubstep preview

Dubstep preview
Posted on: 13.02.2011 by Sherril Sondergard
hi guy ive been working on that since 1 week now. Is not quite done yet but i believe its the best ive done so far. feedback would be nice.

http://soundcloud.com/white-apple-32/ep1unmastered
Sherril Sondergard
22.02.2011
Originally Posted by Sambo
Everyone makes dubstep in NI Massive now, yet the majority of tracks that put dubstep into the mainstream did not. What does that tell you.

No doubt you used one of the many tutorials on it, perhaps the one on beatports tutorial section? You'll find that other synths all have the same options, it's just basic wave forms and filter sweeps. Try NI's Absynth, you can have stupid amount of oscillators and get some ridiculously weird dub out of it.

And reupload the song. Just 'cause you started as a rentboy doesn't mean you should forget about it when you're a big time CEO. You can look back and believe "Jesus I sucked then haha" (Literally, in this analogy).
Im very confortable with massive now. maybe a would know more about diffent waveform. NI dont give information of each WF available! -_-.
Yeah i know i'am just starting in music production i'am far from been experienced. I just hope i'll get that ''Jesus I sucked than haha'' feeling
thanks for encouraging!
Sherril Sondergard
14.02.2011
Originally Posted by Lambox
Hey WhiteApple,

Even though your song is down, and I never had the chance to hear it, I just wanna say that you should channel any frustration you have as fuel to encourage you to keep trying. Prove everyone wrong. I have made some awful songs that I thought were great when I first made them. Hell, I still make some terrible stuff that after I sleep on it, I listen to it the next day and wonder what the hell I was believeing.

Learning to produce well takes a long time. I still consider myself a beginner, and it's been more than five years since I opened up a DAW for the first time. Some of the stuff I thought was great a few months ago I believe is complete trash.

Don't give up man, you'll get the hang of it. Practice. It's the art of the process.
I started been able to make music between 1-2 mount ago, i really like that. I am on my way to a loooong run im not planning to give up that. thanks alot, its was pretty encouraging. The fact is for me, when i wake up in the morning im still believeing the same a yesterday -_- lol. thx again

14.02.2011
Originally Posted by Groats
what's a DAW?
digital audio workstation. short for the software you use to arrange (and in some cases, perform) your music.
Sherril Sondergard
14.02.2011
Originally Posted by ctrld
I'm sorry - sometimes a punch in the face is all you get. I've gotten my share too, and I still keep getting them occasionally because we all have stuff we could improve on (in my case, it's scratching). getting bad feedback is a part of learning... it's better than people telling you that your stuff is good when in fact it isn't.
yeah i agree its why i didnt took it badly

14.02.2011
Originally Posted by WhiteApple
okay... wow like a punch in the face.
I'm sorry - sometimes a punch in the face is all you get. I've gotten my share too, and I still keep getting them occasionally because we all have stuff we could improve on (in my case, one of those things is scratching). getting bad feedback is a part of learning... it's better than people telling you that your stuff is good when in fact it isn't.
Sherril Sondergard
13.02.2011
Originally Posted by ctrld
ouch I'm sorry to say, but this is a massive fail, even for a beginner... a week? wow.

samples in the beginning: if you don't have good multisamples, give them a long release and morph them into synth pads or something. don't play bad samples unless you're doing it deliberately to achieve a certain effect.

if you're using sampled patterns, cut them up correctly so that they produce clean loops. the ones you used are horribly out of sync.

buildup & dropdown: weak. you could try focusing on one sound and letting it dominate the rise; the key of a buildup is anticipation, and you don't get that just by adding a "swoosh" on top of the already overloaded spectrum. take something away so that you have something to give back after the drop. believe of reloading a shotgun

after the drop: not really dubstep, is it? sounds more like a straight acid house beat... it's not automatically dubstep when you add a wobbling bass sound you know, especially one that doesn't change much. you need to vary your LFO settings - and layer stuff. have you heard some of the recent productions? it's never just one synth sound at the very least, you need a sub bass to accompany your main bassline and you can only get away with that if the main bassline is really, really good.
okay... wow like a punch in the face.
but its constructive a will say thanks for that comment. i tried to do it symphonic, i thought it was good. I will do better next time.
Sherril Sondergard
13.02.2011
hi guy ive been working on that since 1 week now. Is not quite done yet but i believe its the best ive done so far. feedback would be nice.

http://soundcloud.com/white-apple-32/ep1unmastered
Sherril Sondergard
26.02.2011
i dont have the anttension to re-work it but thanks for analyse it pretty apprecied critism like this are the most welcomed. just a question what 2-step drum exsactly??
Jetta Drenzek
26.02.2011
Well, I can give you the first pointer, it's not dubstep. Haha, Dubstep is the combination of wobble bass and 2-step drum beats, Your song is actually house. Check out "Mr. Oizo - Flat Beat", the dubstep wobble has been around a lot longer than most people realize.

Anyways, improving that track will take a mighty effort.

Firstly your intro is too thin, you need some reverbs or echo's, something to fatten it up. Or maybe a soft pad bass.

To be honest, to improve it you'd have to re-write it all. Everything's following a different time signature, it just makes no sense.

A MUCH harder way of improving it would be to actually make it into an irregular time signature, but depending on your program this can be really hard.
Sherril Sondergard
25.02.2011
here it is man thanks

http://soundcloud.com/white-apple-32/woblette-promenade-original
Jetta Drenzek
22.02.2011
No worries man, if you reupload the track I can give you some direct pointers on how to improve easily.
Sherril Sondergard
22.02.2011
Originally Posted by Sambo
Everyone makes dubstep in NI Massive now, yet the majority of tracks that put dubstep into the mainstream did not. What does that tell you.

No doubt you used one of the many tutorials on it, perhaps the one on beatports tutorial section? You'll find that other synths all have the same options, it's just basic wave forms and filter sweeps. Try NI's Absynth, you can have stupid amount of oscillators and get some ridiculously weird dub out of it.

And reupload the song. Just 'cause you started as a rentboy doesn't mean you should forget about it when you're a big time CEO. You can look back and believe "Jesus I sucked then haha" (Literally, in this analogy).
Im very confortable with massive now. maybe a would know more about diffent waveform. NI dont give information of each WF available! -_-.
Yeah i know i'am just starting in music production i'am far from been experienced. I just hope i'll get that ''Jesus I sucked than haha'' feeling
thanks for encouraging!
Jetta Drenzek
22.02.2011
Everyone makes dubstep in NI Massive now, yet the majority of tracks that put dubstep into the mainstream did not. What does that tell you.

No doubt you used one of the many tutorials on it, perhaps the one on beatports tutorial section? You'll find that other synths all have the same options, it's just basic wave forms and filter sweeps. Try NI's Absynth, you can have stupid amount of oscillators and get some ridiculously weird dub out of it.

And reupload the song. Just 'cause you started as a rentboy doesn't mean you should forget about it when you're a big time CEO. You can look back and believe "Jesus I sucked then haha" (Literally, in this analogy).
Sherril Sondergard
14.02.2011
I started w/ Logic Pro 8 and switched to Abelton Live 8.(im still using LP sometimes). my main synth is NI Massive
Sherril Sondergard
14.02.2011
Originally Posted by Lambox
Hey WhiteApple,

Even though your song is down, and I never had the chance to hear it, I just wanna say that you should channel any frustration you have as fuel to encourage you to keep trying. Prove everyone wrong. I have made some awful songs that I thought were great when I first made them. Hell, I still make some terrible stuff that after I sleep on it, I listen to it the next day and wonder what the hell I was believeing.

Learning to produce well takes a long time. I still consider myself a beginner, and it's been more than five years since I opened up a DAW for the first time. Some of the stuff I thought was great a few months ago I believe is complete trash.

Don't give up man, you'll get the hang of it. Practice. It's the art of the process.
I started been able to make music between 1-2 mount ago, i really like that. I am on my way to a loooong run im not planning to give up that. thanks alot, its was pretty encouraging. The fact is for me, when i wake up in the morning im still believeing the same a yesterday -_- lol. thx again
Franklin Momany
14.02.2011
He gets a few bad comments and immediately drops the track, jus. . .lololz.
Verona Fashbaugh
14.02.2011
Hey WhiteApple,

Even though your song is down, and I never had the chance to hear it, I just wanna say that you should channel any frustration you have as fuel to encourage you to keep trying. Prove everyone wrong. I have made some awful songs that I thought were great when I first made them. Hell, I still make some terrible stuff that after I sleep on it, I listen to it the next day and wonder what the hell I was believeing.

Learning to produce well takes a long time. I still consider myself a beginner, and it's been more than five years since I opened up a DAW for the first time. Some of the stuff I thought was great a few months ago I believe is complete trash.

Don't give up man, you'll get the hang of it. Practice. It's the art of the process.

14.02.2011
Originally Posted by Groats
what's a DAW?
digital audio workstation. short for the software you use to arrange (and in some cases, perform) your music.
Rosanna Naeyaert
14.02.2011
what's a DAW?


and: you seem to take criticism well. that's the first step for a lot of good things.

a fellow beginner

14.02.2011
what DAW are you using?
Sherril Sondergard
14.02.2011
Originally Posted by ctrld
I'm sorry - sometimes a punch in the face is all you get. I've gotten my share too, and I still keep getting them occasionally because we all have stuff we could improve on (in my case, it's scratching). getting bad feedback is a part of learning... it's better than people telling you that your stuff is good when in fact it isn't.
yeah i agree its why i didnt took it badly

14.02.2011
Originally Posted by WhiteApple
okay... wow like a punch in the face.
I'm sorry - sometimes a punch in the face is all you get. I've gotten my share too, and I still keep getting them occasionally because we all have stuff we could improve on (in my case, one of those things is scratching). getting bad feedback is a part of learning... it's better than people telling you that your stuff is good when in fact it isn't.
Sherril Sondergard
13.02.2011
Originally Posted by ctrld
ouch I'm sorry to say, but this is a massive fail, even for a beginner... a week? wow.

samples in the beginning: if you don't have good multisamples, give them a long release and morph them into synth pads or something. don't play bad samples unless you're doing it deliberately to achieve a certain effect.

if you're using sampled patterns, cut them up correctly so that they produce clean loops. the ones you used are horribly out of sync.

buildup & dropdown: weak. you could try focusing on one sound and letting it dominate the rise; the key of a buildup is anticipation, and you don't get that just by adding a "swoosh" on top of the already overloaded spectrum. take something away so that you have something to give back after the drop. believe of reloading a shotgun

after the drop: not really dubstep, is it? sounds more like a straight acid house beat... it's not automatically dubstep when you add a wobbling bass sound you know, especially one that doesn't change much. you need to vary your LFO settings - and layer stuff. have you heard some of the recent productions? it's never just one synth sound at the very least, you need a sub bass to accompany your main bassline and you can only get away with that if the main bassline is really, really good.
okay... wow like a punch in the face.
but its constructive a will say thanks for that comment. i tried to do it symphonic, i thought it was good. I will do better next time.

13.02.2011
ouch I'm sorry to say, but this is a massive fail, even for a beginner... a week? wow.

samples in the beginning: if you don't have good multisamples, give them a long release and morph them into synth pads or something. don't play bad samples unless you're doing it deliberately to achieve a certain effect.

if you're using sampled patterns, cut them up correctly so that they produce clean loops. the ones you used are horribly out of sync.

buildup & dropdown: weak. you could try focusing on one sound and letting it dominate the rise; the key of a buildup is anticipation, and you don't get that just by adding a "swoosh" on top of the already overloaded spectrum. take something away so that you have something to give back after the drop. believe of reloading a shotgun

after the drop: not really dubstep, is it? sounds more like a straight acid house beat... it's not automatically dubstep when you add a wobbling bass sound you know, especially one that doesn't change much. you need to vary your LFO settings - and layer stuff. have you heard some of the recent productions? it's never just one synth sound at the very least, you need a sub bass to accompany your main bassline and you can only get away with that if the main bassline is really, really good.

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