Propellerhead Reason or Ableton?

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Propellerhead Reason or Ableton?
Posted on: 05.03.2011 by Olene Minyard
Which is best for the production side of music? Namely, creating electro and dubstep.

Just wondering what people opinions are. Been delving into both today and it's a steep learning curve, but definitely getting there!
Ashirumatic DJ
05.03.2011
Originally Posted by Bunford
The most infuriating things I believe about reason is the inability to use the full screen. Drives me insance when trying to write in midi notes etc!
Use both. You can set up reason as a ReWire Client inside Ableton. Then all your notes can be passed from Ableton into Reason and the Audio routed back into a channel of Ableton. There are tons of tutorials on youtube.com on how to achieve this.

However I would use Ableton first. Easy to learn and can perform complex tasks.
Olene Minyard
05.03.2011
Which is best for the production side of music? Namely, creating electro and dubstep.

Just wondering what people opinions are. Been delving into both today and it's a steep learning curve, but definitely getting there!
Olene Minyard
05.03.2011
Is there any way to control automation when rewiring and using MIDI?

For example, if I run MIDI notes in Ableton, run them out through ReWire to Reason into a synth I've created and back into an Audio track in Ableton. I assume if I edit automation in Ableton, it won't make a difference as it won;t link to anything as the audio will be created in Reason. And if I create on in Reason, it won't affect anything as the audio is bcoming out in Ableton, not via the Reason sequencer.

Any ideas? I'm believeing more on things like creating a dubstep bass and needing the automated frequency filter to get the 'wobble'.
Olene Minyard
05.03.2011
Playing with both all day today. I like the flexibility of Reason. I like that you can build a rack, and use combinators to have a synth/instrument directly linked to effects and chained how you want etc. That means you can easily master each instrument as you go.

However, Ableton interface and usability seems much friendlier and easier to use. If Ableton had the ability of the 'rack' from Ableton it'd be almost perfect I'd say.

Looks like rewiring Reason into Ableton it's gonna be then. Now just gotta crack mastering the dubstep sounds!
Olene Minyard
05.03.2011
I figured it all out earlier. Easy enough. However, I hit issues when I made a dubstep drum loop, then tried to insert a Rex loop via the doc to overlay the loop I'd made. But couldn;t figure out how to edit the rex loop to customise and fit with my loop and play back through Ableton. Might even be impossible!?
Ashirumatic DJ
05.03.2011
Originally Posted by Bunford
The most infuriating things I believe about reason is the inability to use the full screen. Drives me insance when trying to write in midi notes etc!
Use both. You can set up reason as a ReWire Client inside Ableton. Then all your notes can be passed from Ableton into Reason and the Audio routed back into a channel of Ableton. There are tons of tutorials on youtube.com on how to achieve this.

However I would use Ableton first. Easy to learn and can perform complex tasks.
Olene Minyard
06.03.2011
I've been experimenting with rewiring the entire rack all of today! Some good , some not so good!
Eloy Snopkowski
06.03.2011
reason is even more fun when you start to leanr how to route your signal when you press TAB. You can create infinite possibilities and its would be the same way with hardware. Dont forget you can use both in REWIRE ...the best of both wolrd
Korey Quines
05.03.2011
Reason is the most logic DAW if youre new to the whole thing. And the best part with it is that it can be as complex or as simple as you want it to be. A tip is to get the Reason/record duo. Records mixer wonderful (I could buy Recort for the mixer alone), its nice to be able to use audioclips without having to import them into samples, the Line 6 distortion devices sound wonderful and it supports dual processors whitch (I believe) Reason alone doesnt. And it can run the racks in fullscreen too.

Ive been using Reason since v.3, and Ive never been disappointed.
Nichelle Salls
05.03.2011
Window -> Detach Sequencer Window
Olene Minyard
05.03.2011
The most infuriating things I believe about reason is the inability to use the full screen. Drives me insance when trying to write in midi notes etc!
Nichelle Salls
05.03.2011
I love Reason. Both are different, and take different approaches to production. Start with Reason. It teaches good fundamentals, and will ease the transition into Ableton if you decide to go down that route.

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