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Ableton Audio volume
Posted on: 27.09.2011 by Matha Mearkle
I've noticed when i originate with Ableton instruments my volume sucks as compared to when i use NI's Massive as a plug-in. Anyone else have this issue? Any ideas why? Any work around?

thanks
renato
Matha Mearkle
27.09.2011
Originally Posted by ksandvik
What are you trying to do?
make original music.
Matha Mearkle
27.09.2011
I've noticed when i originate with Ableton instruments my volume sucks as compared to when i use NI's Massive as a plug-in. Anyone else have this issue? Any ideas why? Any work around?

thanks
renato
Dung Domingus
27.09.2011
you just actually have to work to make ableton's sounds fat where as massive's presets probably do most of the stuff I mentioned for you already
Matha Mearkle
27.09.2011
what i'm talking about is perceived volume. it's not just about pushing a slider up... could be the fat issue. I'm pretty clued up in massive relative to say ableton's operator... better at squeezing that fat out in NI i suppose...
Dung Domingus
27.09.2011
You shouldn't be worried about the loudness/volume of your sounds until you are done with your track and ready to master. The only thing volume wise you should be paying attention to prior that is the volumes of your sounds relative to each other. I believe you are more likely refering to having a fat sound as oppose to actual volume though. I'll copy and paste what I posted in anohter thread about fattening up your sounds.

"Thanks man! A lot of those synth sounds were sampled from the original, but I did fatten them up a bit. Best ways I find to fatten up synths though is a combination of things.
-Depending on the sound I like to give it a bit of drive/saturation. Use this sparingly though because it distorts the sound.

-I like to use compression on the synth only if it is really weak or the dynamic range is way too wide. Even then though I use it sparingly because it distorts the sound and the I compress the entire track again anyway when mastering.

-A bit of reverb can do wonders for a synth. Depending on what sound you are trying to get you may want to try adding a reverb effect directly onto the synth vs adding reverb via a send/return track. Both techniques have similar, but different effects.

-Lastly eqing is important in fattening up sound too. Personally I never use a eq to push up/make any frequencies louder. I believe it doesn't sound as good as actually playing around with the synth itself to make it sound better. Eqing out the low frequencies that are inaudible and going to be drowned out by the kick anyway and eqing out the higher inaudible and ear piercing frequencies will give your noticably fatten up your synth though.

Then when I'm done with the track I like to use a vst like psp vintage warmer or something to give the whole track a warmer more analog sound. Hope that helps.

p.s all of those techniques work for fattening up drums too"
Matha Mearkle
27.09.2011
Originally Posted by ksandvik
What are you trying to do?
make original music.
Celine Surico
27.09.2011
What are you trying to do?

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