Necessary to EQ/compress loop pack drums?

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Necessary to EQ/compress loop pack drums?
Posted on: 29.01.2012 by Johnsie Kingrea
I was just wondering how necessary it is to layer,eq, or compress one shot drums from a loop pack. Most of the sites say that they've already done the necessary sound design.
Breana Singerman
29.01.2012
Originally Posted by DJKeyWee
The less compression, the better. Sounds more natural and crispy VS dull.
On the master channel yes, but sometimes you just want to crush the shit out of a certain track and push the compressor a bit to give it a really dirty, nasty sound that you couldn't get otherwise.

Perfect example being the CLA compressors from Waves. Run a clap through it, squash the crap out of it and push the out put hard. The clap will slap you so hard across the face you'll still have a palm mark in the morning.

There's no right or wrong way to go about this, just do what sounds good to your ears at the moment.
Johnsie Kingrea
29.01.2012
I was just wondering how necessary it is to layer,eq, or compress one shot drums from a loop pack. Most of the sites say that they've already done the necessary sound design.
Terese Bachorski
04.02.2012
Their sound design does not necessarily fit your mix.
Nedra Fresneda
04.02.2012
Depends on the source of the loop really, some are already pre processed so there little or none extra processing needed in most scenarios.
Anisa Fourte
04.02.2012
This is an issue that always comes up. Yes, the samples by themselves are probably EQ'd and compressed nicely, the people that made them want them to sound the best they possibly can so they can sell it to you..... But, as Nephew said, it's how those samples fit in with everything else that truly determines if they should have any further EQing and/or compression. These are simply tools to form and shape those sounds into what you want from them. You can use them to simply make the samples pop out a little more with some light EQ cutting and maaaayyybe some compression, or you can EQ and compress the crap out of them to give the samples some crazy sound. It's all in what the track calls for in your mind. Sometimes they're perfect, sometimes I'll layer several sounds together and use some radical EQing and filtering to combine them all into a completely new sound.

Honestly, I say sit back, close your eyes, and just listen to it in your track for a minute. Maybe experiment for a minute with some different settings/sample layers. Every single track/sample will be different, but that's the only true way to tell... A track is always a mix, and every mix calls for different things because there's always a different blend of sounds.

It's music, let's your ears guide you!
Krishna Hospelhorn
31.01.2012
it depends how good quality the samples are. I only really use deadmau5s xfer sample pack for one shots, and they are properly amazing. no real processing needed, other than basic processing to mix in with other tracks. but then again, I've seen some shockingly bad sample pack drums that would need lots of processing or layering up to sound any good.

my advice is to just get decent samples. creating the one shots isn't creative, its just an exercise in sound design
Lisa Lochotzki
30.01.2012
true.
Breana Singerman
29.01.2012
Originally Posted by DJKeyWee
The less compression, the better. Sounds more natural and crispy VS dull.
On the master channel yes, but sometimes you just want to crush the shit out of a certain track and push the compressor a bit to give it a really dirty, nasty sound that you couldn't get otherwise.

Perfect example being the CLA compressors from Waves. Run a clap through it, squash the crap out of it and push the out put hard. The clap will slap you so hard across the face you'll still have a palm mark in the morning.

There's no right or wrong way to go about this, just do what sounds good to your ears at the moment.
Lisa Lochotzki
29.01.2012
The less compression, the better. Sounds more natural and crispy VS dull. But yeah, you need to keep your ears wide open.
Breana Singerman
29.01.2012
True, they are, but you still have to make them fit in with everything else in your mix. They're talking about from a sound design point of view, not a mix down point of view I'd imagine.

By themselves the loops and samples sound good I'd imagine, but when you start adding other parts and are layering parts up you will have to EQ stuff and possibly add some compression if it still needs it in your opinion.

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