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The waveforms of my tracks are small in Traktor
Posted on: 28.02.2012 by Clarinda Schwimer
Hi guys.

Ok an interesting one....all my tracks when I load them into traktor....they all seem to have small waveforms compared to other tracks I have that I load in. And I cant figure out why.....

Maybe I compress them too much, they arent loud enough or not loud in comparison to another. I dont know....

Any ideas?


Edit.....

P.S....Here is an example;

http://soundcloud.com/essbeedee/essbeedee-loco

Its loud enough, definitely...but there is something thats making the overall waveform smaller in Traktor.....
Romelia Stankard
28.02.2012
Originally Posted by ESSBEEDEE
I use a program called Switch to convert the tracks to MP3, its an audio converter for mac.

And the Normalise option is turned off.....
Again, when you exported to wav from your DAW you probably didn't have normalize on and were mixing to a lower level or you had normalize on and didn't have any sort of compressor/limiter on the master and a volume spike somewhere shrunk the whole thing during the normalize process, then when you converted it to mp3 the mp3 coverter normalized the volume level a little bit.

If you're wondering why your tracks aren't as loud as released tracks that have been mastered, it's because your tracks haven't been mastered yet and it would look closer to the right after the mastering process.
Romelia Stankard
28.02.2012
Originally Posted by ESSBEEDEE
Uploaded a picture for you guys...

http://i39.tinypic.com/121ybkh.png
The track on the right has been mastered and optimized for loudness, yours has not.
Clarinda Schwimer
28.02.2012
Hi guys.

Ok an interesting one....all my tracks when I load them into traktor....they all seem to have small waveforms compared to other tracks I have that I load in. And I cant figure out why.....

Maybe I compress them too much, they arent loud enough or not loud in comparison to another. I dont know....

Any ideas?


Edit.....

P.S....Here is an example;

http://soundcloud.com/essbeedee/essbeedee-loco

Its loud enough, definitely...but there is something thats making the overall waveform smaller in Traktor.....
Romelia Stankard
28.02.2012
Originally Posted by ESSBEEDEE
I use a program called Switch to convert the tracks to MP3, its an audio converter for mac.

And the Normalise option is turned off.....
Again, when you exported to wav from your DAW you probably didn't have normalize on and were mixing to a lower level or you had normalize on and didn't have any sort of compressor/limiter on the master and a volume spike somewhere shrunk the whole thing during the normalize process, then when you converted it to mp3 the mp3 coverter normalized the volume level a little bit.

If you're wondering why your tracks aren't as loud as released tracks that have been mastered, it's because your tracks haven't been mastered yet and it would look closer to the right after the mastering process.
Romelia Stankard
28.02.2012
Originally Posted by ESSBEEDEE
Uploaded a picture for you guys...

http://i39.tinypic.com/121ybkh.png
The track on the right has been mastered and optimized for loudness, yours has not.
Irwin Ney
28.02.2012
This must be something configured at your DAW...
This headroom is good for mastering, thats why your DAW leaves it, but when exporting to MP3 there is no need of headroom anymore, right?
What DAW do you use to produce?
Clarinda Schwimer
28.02.2012
Ah....that might have somethin to do with it...still strange that a wav shows up small but an mp3 is full size....
Marshall Aby
28.02.2012
Hmmm. Maybe it's a quirk of Traktor. It can store the gain level of the track in the MP3 tag, but it can't in the WAV.
Joselyn Supina
27.02.2012
It almost looks like the track was normalized or had a limiter run on it before converting to mp3. It does look a little weird. However, looking at it again, the shape of the wav form looks the same...normally normalize or a limiter will blow the wave form out for the most part.

Is there a gain or loudness function in Switch? I have no experience with that program. I use Max to convert, but usually just my mixes, never compared the two wav forms in traktor.
Clarinda Schwimer
27.02.2012
I use a program called Switch to convert the tracks to MP3, its an audio converter for mac.

And the Normalise option is turned off.....
Joselyn Supina
27.02.2012
Do you normalize the track or do anything with a limiter before making the track an mp3?

The mp3 looks like it's had Normalize RMS run on it.
Clarinda Schwimer
27.02.2012
Ah ok I jus noticed something.....When i loaded in the WAV file it was small.....When i load in the MP3 its bigger....this is weird!!!!!!

Here is a pic to show u what I mean

http://i40.tinypic.com/foos2a.png

WAV on the left, MP3 on the right.

How weird!!!!!
Tatum Ansaldo
27.02.2012
Looks fine, what exactly is the problem? In what way are they smaller? Maybe put up another pic of what another track that you believe is right looks like?
Clarinda Schwimer
27.02.2012
Uploaded a picture for you guys...

http://i39.tinypic.com/121ybkh.png
Tatum Ansaldo
28.02.2012
picture?
Arica Wilmsmeyer
28.02.2012
will seek for discussion very interesting!@

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