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The new analog mono desktops.... thoughts?
Posted on: 22.06.2012 by Terra Merigold
Might be in the market for one of the new analog desktops...

Minitaur, Minibrute, Prophet08, SEM, Boomstar, etc..

Haven't really looked at threads in a while on these since they started coming out..

Recall the Minitaur had a USB option that would have patch recall..

I might be ok with a bass duty only synth.

Anyone want to share experiences, opinions...

I have owned a virus TI,, sold it for some dj gear.. All of the rest of my synth/sampler setup is itb..
Rebbecca Fennell
29.06.2012
Originally Posted by jackastro
I love my Evolver, but I wouldn't say it is easy to program. There are so many featuers that it can be downright frustrating to pick apart a patch.
Yeah I should rephrase that - most of it is easy. The sequencer while capable was clumsy enough I just didn't go near it the brief time I owned an evolver
Pauletta Place
29.06.2012
Originally Posted by diezdiazgiant
+1

Very broad palette with its 2 digital and 2 analog oscillators, very easy to program with its parameter matrix, modulation options that compete with a modular synth... I believe it's very worthwhile to check it out if the goal is immediacy and bringing something new to the table.
I love my Evolver, but I wouldn't say it is easy to program. There are so many featuers that it can be downright frustrating to pick apart a patch.
Rebbecca Fennell
24.06.2012
Originally Posted by Tarekith
Evolver Desktop, it can make some really sick sounds.
+1

Very broad palette with its 2 digital and 2 analog oscillators, very easy to program with its parameter matrix, modulation options that compete with a modular synth... I believe it's very worthwhile to check it out if the goal is immediacy and bringing something new to the table.
Georgina Schatzman
24.06.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
I'm not sure where you get that from- he said he wanted more hands on control and hardware offers much more than just collecting. He said he didn't want soft synths since he was already covered with them.
And he said he wanted to add to his sound design options, and I believe soft synths outweigh the "hands" on approach. The Moog Modular alone will give you thousands of sound design options and flexibility
Romelia Stankard
24.06.2012		I'm not sure where you get that from- he said he wanted more hands on control and hardware offers much more than just collecting. He said he didn't want soft synths since he was already covered with them.

Originally Posted by JasonBay
Sounds like you really have no idea what you want. All you know is that you WANT something need. Is there an actual NEED for one?
Originally Posted by drewspuppet
Right, the prophet + sem have been out for a while..just throwing them in the mix too as they fit. The need arises from a desire to add to my sound design options with hands on control. And why not go analog as my computer covers va very well.
Valid reasons, does't seem like he is all that indecisive to me just weighing options. I wouldn't tell someone looking for feedback on getting a few different softsynths to buy an analog desktop synth instead.
Georgina Schatzman
24.06.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
If that were true for everyone the analog/hardware synth market wouldn't be exploding right now.
There's a difference between a producer and a collector though, can't really compare them. Sounds like he's looking for more sound design options that are functional, where as a collector is just that, a collector.
Romelia Stankard
23.06.2012
Originally Posted by tekki
Hardware synths are cool, though impossible to handle correctly when in Ableton.

(Access Virus T1 and T2 have GREAT difficulties due to MIDI syncing issues.)
How so? My ti 1 syncs just fine in ableton. As long as you hook them up on their own usb port not on a hub they are great. Sync issues over regular midi seems more like a system problem and works fine here and timing is tight on my hackintosh.
Romelia Stankard
24.06.2012		Also look at MFB Dominion X

Not new, but also consider the Vermona Mono Lancet. The demos I hear sound really, really, good and it looks versatile.

Also if you just buy used you can try out whatever you like with no risk and resell it without losing any money. Believe it or not minitaurs and new stuff pop up used on various community s all the time.

Other than that they all have pros and cons it's kind of a personal thing.

Originally Posted by JasonBay
There's no need to spend the money on a hardware synth, the cons just outweigh the pro's.
If that were true for everyone the analog/hardware synth market wouldn't be exploding right now.
Terra Merigold
22.06.2012		Might be in the market for one of the new analog desktops...

Minitaur, Minibrute, Prophet08, SEM, Boomstar, etc..

Haven't really looked at threads in a while on these since they started coming out..

Recall the Minitaur had a USB option that would have patch recall..

I might be ok with a bass duty only synth.

Anyone want to share experiences, opinions...

I have owned a virus TI,, sold it for some dj gear.. All of the rest of my synth/sampler setup is itb..
Rebbecca Fennell
29.06.2012
Originally Posted by jackastro
I love my Evolver, but I wouldn't say it is easy to program. There are so many featuers that it can be downright frustrating to pick apart a patch.
Yeah I should rephrase that - most of it is easy. The sequencer while capable was clumsy enough I just didn't go near it the brief time I owned an evolver
Pauletta Place
29.06.2012
Originally Posted by diezdiazgiant
+1

Very broad palette with its 2 digital and 2 analog oscillators, very easy to program with its parameter matrix, modulation options that compete with a modular synth... I believe it's very worthwhile to check it out if the goal is immediacy and bringing something new to the table.
I love my Evolver, but I wouldn't say it is easy to program. There are so many featuers that it can be downright frustrating to pick apart a patch.
Terra Merigold
26.06.2012		Thank you for the feedback everyone. Never thought of the desktop Evolver.. but looking into it, actually does look pretty easy to program with lots of options despite lack of dedicated knobery. I am still in research phase.. which for me is hard because I do not live near a store that would carry any of these... appreciate your feedback, thanks.
Rochel Gleese
25.06.2012		Boomstar has yet to be made/released but I'd like the ARP model
The SEM Pro I'd like as well, it's a classic with a 30 year design re-release
Ken Macbeth also has some new desktops set for release
You could start a euro modular?
Rebbecca Fennell
24.06.2012
Originally Posted by Tarekith
Evolver Desktop, it can make some really sick sounds.
+1

Very broad palette with its 2 digital and 2 analog oscillators, very easy to program with its parameter matrix, modulation options that compete with a modular synth... I believe it's very worthwhile to check it out if the goal is immediacy and bringing something new to the table.
Georgina Schatzman
24.06.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
I'm not sure where you get that from- he said he wanted more hands on control and hardware offers much more than just collecting. He said he didn't want soft synths since he was already covered with them.
And he said he wanted to add to his sound design options, and I believe soft synths outweigh the "hands" on approach. The Moog Modular alone will give you thousands of sound design options and flexibility
Monserrate Rupnow
24.06.2012		I still believe the Evolver Desktop is one of the most under-rated synths ever. That thing is a sound design beast, and with the built in arp/sequencer, it can make some really sick sounds.
Romelia Stankard
24.06.2012		I'm not sure where you get that from- he said he wanted more hands on control and hardware offers much more than just collecting. He said he didn't want soft synths since he was already covered with them.

Originally Posted by JasonBay
Sounds like you really have no idea what you want. All you know is that you WANT something need. Is there an actual NEED for one?
Originally Posted by drewspuppet
Right, the prophet + sem have been out for a while..just throwing them in the mix too as they fit. The need arises from a desire to add to my sound design options with hands on control. And why not go analog as my computer covers va very well.
Valid reasons, does't seem like he is all that indecisive to me just weighing options. I wouldn't tell someone looking for feedback on getting a few different softsynths to buy an analog desktop synth instead.
Georgina Schatzman
24.06.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
If that were true for everyone the analog/hardware synth market wouldn't be exploding right now.
There's a difference between a producer and a collector though, can't really compare them. Sounds like he's looking for more sound design options that are functional, where as a collector is just that, a collector.
Random X
24.06.2012		The timing get way of when using grooved ARPs.

you first have to let it play for a set of 4 bars, otherwise it will remain on a 12ms delay. Also if you start a MIDIloop half way it sways off.

Other than that, sounds are fine, great and warm, though the grooved ARPs are shite.
Romelia Stankard
23.06.2012
Originally Posted by tekki
Hardware synths are cool, though impossible to handle correctly when in Ableton.

(Access Virus T1 and T2 have GREAT difficulties due to MIDI syncing issues.)
How so? My ti 1 syncs just fine in ableton. As long as you hook them up on their own usb port not on a hub they are great. Sync issues over regular midi seems more like a system problem and works fine here and timing is tight on my hackintosh.
Random X
23.06.2012		Hardware synths are cool, though impossible to handle correctly when in Ableton.

(Access Virus T1 and T2 have GREAT difficulties due to MIDI syncing issues.)
Romelia Stankard
24.06.2012		Also look at MFB Dominion X

Not new, but also consider the Vermona Mono Lancet. The demos I hear sound really, really, good and it looks versatile.

Also if you just buy used you can try out whatever you like with no risk and resell it without losing any money. Believe it or not minitaurs and new stuff pop up used on various community s all the time.

Other than that they all have pros and cons it's kind of a personal thing.

Originally Posted by JasonBay
There's no need to spend the money on a hardware synth, the cons just outweigh the pro's.
If that were true for everyone the analog/hardware synth market wouldn't be exploding right now.
Georgina Schatzman
23.06.2012		Arturia makes spot on remakes of the original ProphetV and Oberheim SEM, plus a handful of other spot on classic synths.

If you're just looking expand your sound design options I would start with the V-Collection 2,

http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/...ion/intro.html

There's no need to spend the money on a hardware synth, the cons just outweigh the pro's.
Terra Merigold
23.06.2012		Right, the prophet + sem have been out for a while..just throwing them in the mix too as they fit. The need arises from a desire to add to my sound design options with hands on control. And why not go analog as my computer covers va very well.
Georgina Schatzman
23.06.2012		Wouldn't really call the Prophet08 or Oberheim SEM new, and those are like the opposite end of the spectrum when comparing them to a Minitaur or Minibrute.

Sounds like you really have no idea what you want. All you know is that you WANT something need. Is there an actual NEED for one?

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