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Courses for Electronic Music Production / sonic music academy / point blank any good?
Posted on: 10.07.2012 by Bruno Britto
Hi all,

I currently have Logic, but knowledge of its workings are minimal. I was wondering if there are any courses out there which teach you quickly how to use the software? I have lots of ideas I would like to bring to fruition! May switch to Ableton, undecided....

Cheers

Ollie
Shantae Glynn
17.07.2012
Originally Posted by Maven
I don't have experience on your tutorials but if it is like the way you said, then it might be helpful. My comment was on the other companies that are doing tutorials and most of the time they just go through it without getting into depth of the things.

I don't have that amount of cash right now but if i ever feel like taking a course, I will check out Point Blank.
All good Maven, I hear where you're coming from. We're alwyas happy to speak to you guys and hear your thoughts on what we do.
Tera Baragan
16.07.2012
Originally Posted by liam1895
I'm not here to say what your doing is bad but really for the price of courses like this the money could be spent better elsewhere don't you believe? $1500 is really pricey for someone who is starting out and if they honestly had that money it could seriously be invested better elsewhere as music really is an expensive hobby.

I mean you can find almost everything free on the net and there are so many community s out there dedicated to helping each other out. And with $1500 i'm sure that could buy you a session learning a few things for an hour or 2 with a producer in a studio rather than someone online could it not?

Not here to banter because I honestly do believe online courses are great, no offence pb!!
An online music production course. 1500

A year at an arts school for producing. 30 000
Arline Receveur
16.07.2012
Originally Posted by Point Blank
Hey Guys,

Just thought I would follow up on this...Always good to see converstaion and debate on what we do.

I hear some of your thoughts on paying to learn music production and I do understand your concerns on paying for tutorial subscription services. The difference in what we do is the fact that you're paying for a whole course, developed by professionals who have years of industry experience.

Our courses do feature tutorials, but in addition to this you have a dedicated professional producer tutor who will be with you every step of the way. Each week you can upolad your tracks/projects to your tutor who will provide 1 on 1 feedback on your work. We've got a video explanation that makes it all way clearer:



If you've got any questions on our courses or if you'd like any more info then just let me know. I'm happy to help.

Cheers!

Luke PB
I'm not here to say what your doing is bad but really for the price of courses like this the money could be spent better elsewhere don't you believe? $1500 is really pricey for someone who is starting out and if they honestly had that money it could seriously be invested better elsewhere as music really is an expensive hobby.

I mean you can find almost everything free on the net and there are so many community s out there dedicated to helping each other out. And with $1500 i'm sure that could buy you a session learning a few things for an hour or 2 with a producer in a studio rather than someone online could it not?

Not here to banter because I honestly do believe online courses are great, no offence pb!!
Lorri Bobar
17.07.2012
thanks, but i'm actually looking for subscription based resources/tutorials.
Yukiko Beauvil
17.07.2012
I just googled that for you and seems like Point Blank has a course for that.
Lorri Bobar
17.07.2012
is there anything like sonic academy / subscription based tutorial sites that have a focus on beatmaking & hip hop (non-rave, non-4-to-the-floor music)?

SA looks cool but it looks to be only house music tutorials.
Meaghan Kallmann
17.07.2012
I can't speak to Point Blank -- but I can say REALLY good things about the value of Sonic Academy.

I'm a member there and it was worth EVERY PENNY. The thing that they do best is show you how to make a track in a certain style and walk you through every step. This results in you understanding how all the different pieces fit and tie together to get the sound you're looking for, something that I really really struggled with before SA.

Seriously, my productions went from being really, really blah to something that I could be proud of. This is the first track I made, completed 2 months after I signed up with SA with a total of 6 months production experience:

http://soundcloud.com/geekyourfaceoff/save-us

It's not a masterpiece, but it's a DECENT track.

For $56 it's kind of a total no-brainer. You have to be willing to WORK at it on your own without outside encouragement or due dates, but if you have that, you'll do good things.

Good luck!
Shantae Glynn
17.07.2012
Originally Posted by Maven
I don't have experience on your tutorials but if it is like the way you said, then it might be helpful. My comment was on the other companies that are doing tutorials and most of the time they just go through it without getting into depth of the things.

I don't have that amount of cash right now but if i ever feel like taking a course, I will check out Point Blank.
All good Maven, I hear where you're coming from. We're alwyas happy to speak to you guys and hear your thoughts on what we do.
Yukiko Beauvil
16.07.2012
arts school for producing is not solely electronic music production though, if you work your ass you end up learning all the necessary skills to operate any single console board, record, place mics etc etc.
Tera Baragan
16.07.2012
Originally Posted by liam1895
I'm not here to say what your doing is bad but really for the price of courses like this the money could be spent better elsewhere don't you believe? $1500 is really pricey for someone who is starting out and if they honestly had that money it could seriously be invested better elsewhere as music really is an expensive hobby.

I mean you can find almost everything free on the net and there are so many community s out there dedicated to helping each other out. And with $1500 i'm sure that could buy you a session learning a few things for an hour or 2 with a producer in a studio rather than someone online could it not?

Not here to banter because I honestly do believe online courses are great, no offence pb!!
An online music production course. 1500

A year at an arts school for producing. 30 000
Yukiko Beauvil
16.07.2012
I don't have experience on your tutorials but if it is like the way you said, then it might be helpful. My comment was on the other companies that are doing tutorials and most of the time they just go through it without getting into depth of the things.

I don't have that amount of cash right now but if i ever feel like taking a course, I will check out Point Blank.
Shantae Glynn
16.07.2012
Hi Liam,

I hear what you're saying, although for us investing in your skills and knowledge is always the best way to spend your money. What we're offering is a full course with a pro producer, rather than simply one or two hours. This may not be in a studio, but you will have guidance and tuition around your music making use of the set-up you have. The benefit is being able to work from home and have the period of a few weeks to really work with your tutor and get the most from the course.

Maven - The tutorials that we host on our YouTube channel are really a taster of what you can expect from a full course, the courses themselves come packed with content offering all of the theiory behind the skills and techniques you're being taught. You can also ask the tutor quesitons whenever you wish, so if there's somehting you don't understand you can get an answer pretty quickly.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks guys,

Luke PB
Yukiko Beauvil
16.07.2012
One thing I noticed on these tutorials are that they just cover very basic things while they explain, like they don't explain the part of production on why they are doing it. Most of them are like so we put a compression here to the sound, and then we cut this frequency on sub bass but they don't explain why they are doing it so people who are watching it, get an idea of putting compression or cutting, boosting eq's on every single channel.
Arline Receveur
16.07.2012
Originally Posted by Point Blank
Hey Guys,

Just thought I would follow up on this...Always good to see converstaion and debate on what we do.

I hear some of your thoughts on paying to learn music production and I do understand your concerns on paying for tutorial subscription services. The difference in what we do is the fact that you're paying for a whole course, developed by professionals who have years of industry experience.

Our courses do feature tutorials, but in addition to this you have a dedicated professional producer tutor who will be with you every step of the way. Each week you can upolad your tracks/projects to your tutor who will provide 1 on 1 feedback on your work. We've got a video explanation that makes it all way clearer:



If you've got any questions on our courses or if you'd like any more info then just let me know. I'm happy to help.

Cheers!

Luke PB
I'm not here to say what your doing is bad but really for the price of courses like this the money could be spent better elsewhere don't you believe? $1500 is really pricey for someone who is starting out and if they honestly had that money it could seriously be invested better elsewhere as music really is an expensive hobby.

I mean you can find almost everything free on the net and there are so many community s out there dedicated to helping each other out. And with $1500 i'm sure that could buy you a session learning a few things for an hour or 2 with a producer in a studio rather than someone online could it not?

Not here to banter because I honestly do believe online courses are great, no offence pb!!
Shantae Glynn
16.07.2012
Hey Guys,

Just thought I would follow up on this...Always good to see converstaion and debate on what we do.

I hear some of your thoughts on paying to learn music production and I do understand your concerns on paying for tutorial subscription services. The difference in what we do is the fact that you're paying for a whole course, developed by professionals who have years of industry experience.

Our courses do feature tutorials, but in addition to this you have a dedicated professional producer tutor who will be with you every step of the way. Each week you can upolad your tracks/projects to your tutor who will provide 1 on 1 feedback on your work. We've got a video explanation that makes it all way clearer:



If you've got any questions on our courses or if you'd like any more info then just let me know. I'm happy to help.

Cheers!

Luke PB
Romelia Stankard
16.07.2012
Originally Posted by liam1895
Don't pay to learn. There is honestly that much free crap on youtube and the net if you look hard enough you wont have to spend a dollar on learning how to use shit.

If you actually dedicate time and effort into learning how to use stuff in the DAW your using you'll get more out of it then being spoon fed on what to do. Like sit down for an hour with a kick drum and start eq'ing it or mess about trying to recreate your favourite sound's in a Synth.

I know its hard because I started of just like you from the sounds of things but if you stick it out and get stuck into the habit of messing and really reading on how things work you'll get further but if you really are stuck and cant figure out what your doing, Take a look at Groove3.

Groove3 for $25 or something you get unlimited access to all videos and man to they have some good shit. They basically have everything to do with music production in depth tutorials.

If you ever need a hand though, i'd be happy to help you out aswell. Just msg me on here ^.^

This is true. I don't really see sonic academy or groove3 or vespers as really paying to learn. If you just search around youtube you will find a lot of stuff and a lot more really crappy half baked tutorials to sift through. Paying $25-$50 for access to one of the previous mentioned sites and getting access to tons of decent tutorials in one place is great. It's worth the money for all the time you save sifting through shit tutorials on youtube.

If OP was believeing about dropping $2000 on dubspot online classes I might advise against it but $50 or less is nothing for the having great material all in one place since most stuff on youtube is junk (unless you like sifting though 15 bad tutorials at illegible screen capture resolution to find one decent 6 minute video).

People spend much more money on sample packs and VSTs they won't use in the beginning- a subscription to one of those sites is hardly the worst investment you can make and not something I would advise against.
Regan Berzin
15.07.2012
do u guys know anything about live-courses.com?
Georgina Schatzman
11.07.2012
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Georgina Schatzman
11.07.2012
Bingo! Liam hit it on the head!
Arline Receveur
11.07.2012
Don't pay to learn. There is honestly that much free crap on youtube and the net if you look hard enough you wont have to spend a dollar on learning how to use shit.

If you actually dedicate time and effort into learning how to use stuff in the DAW your using you'll get more out of it then being spoon fed on what to do. Like sit down for an hour with a kick drum and start eq'ing it or mess about trying to recreate your favourite sound's in a Synth.

I know its hard because I started of just like you from the sounds of things but if you stick it out and get stuck into the habit of messing and really reading on how things work you'll get further but if you really are stuck and cant figure out what your doing, Take a look at Groove3.

Groove3 for $25 or something you get unlimited access to all videos and man to they have some good shit. They basically have everything to do with music production in depth tutorials.

If you ever need a hand though, i'd be happy to help you out aswell. Just msg me on here ^.^
Regan Berzin
10.07.2012
anyone know anything about live-courses.com?
Monserrate Rupnow
10.07.2012
Check out http://Vespers.ca too, he's got lots of free stuff on his site, and his paid for classes are good too.
Bruno Britto
10.07.2012
thanks man
Georgianna Eurick
10.07.2012
These threads might help you


http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=52867

http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=51836

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