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Remaking samples - copyright question
Posted on: 16.04.2012 by Jammie Cromar
Say there's a 4 bar loop in a song that I want to sample and chop for use in my own track. I know I could run into issues regarding copyright if I were to sample straight from the song. However, would the same issues arise if I were to recreate the sample (using vst's and/or my own recordings) and then chop/sample my own version?

I understand that copyright applies to the artistic work as well as the actual recording but I am unsure if that still applies when recreating a small portion of a complete song.

Thanks!
Josefa Monismith
17.08.2012
Originally Posted by RockingClub
Alex Metric said he rebuild the Mr.Finger sample, so he played it on his keyboard and shaped the sound. That makes it more difficult to determine, if it's still Mr.Finger's work or already Alex Metric's.
Apart from that, knowing does an artist also does something (illegally), doesn't mean it's legal!
And you also do not know if he asked Mr.Finger's management for permission to use this sample.
When a sample is replayed you just have to get permission from the publisher, not the record label or the artist who made it. You need to contact the specialists and world's best sample replay company called SCORCCIO Sample Replays. They know all about this stuff and have made some killer beats and sample remakes over the years, actually the very first company to do so. I would 100% recommended them for any sample recreations and their prices are extremely good too.
Tessie Grether
19.04.2012
Originally Posted by Patch
Sample anything you want, and use it however you want. The fact is, a ridiculously small amount of us will ever get any recognition for what we do.

Sampling is fun. You won't get caught. And if you do - GREAT! That's a nice bit of recognition for you!

THIS! Agreed, everyone needs to watch RIP! a remix manifesto, if you have a problem
Jammie Cromar
16.04.2012		Say there's a 4 bar loop in a song that I want to sample and chop for use in my own track. I know I could run into issues regarding copyright if I were to sample straight from the song. However, would the same issues arise if I were to recreate the sample (using vst's and/or my own recordings) and then chop/sample my own version?

I understand that copyright applies to the artistic work as well as the actual recording but I am unsure if that still applies when recreating a small portion of a complete song.

Thanks!
Kasi Marget
17.08.2012		As said above, sample anything you want. If you get caught, that would mean you made it in the music business so..
Josefa Monismith
17.08.2012
Originally Posted by RockingClub
Alex Metric said he rebuild the Mr.Finger sample, so he played it on his keyboard and shaped the sound. That makes it more difficult to determine, if it's still Mr.Finger's work or already Alex Metric's.
Apart from that, knowing does an artist also does something (illegally), doesn't mean it's legal!
And you also do not know if he asked Mr.Finger's management for permission to use this sample.
When a sample is replayed you just have to get permission from the publisher, not the record label or the artist who made it. You need to contact the specialists and world's best sample replay company called SCORCCIO Sample Replays. They know all about this stuff and have made some killer beats and sample remakes over the years, actually the very first company to do so. I would 100% recommended them for any sample recreations and their prices are extremely good too.
Jammie Cromar
21.04.2012		Thanks for the insightful responses guys. Ill definitely take a look at the mentioned videos as well.
Sylvia Greener
20.04.2012		Alex Metric said he rebuild the Mr.Finger sample, so he played it on his keyboard and shaped the sound. That makes it more difficult to determine, if it's still Mr.Finger's work or already Alex Metric's.
Apart from that, knowing does an artist also does something (illegally), doesn't mean it's legal!
And you also do not know if he asked Mr.Finger's management for permission to use this sample.
Tessie Grether
19.04.2012
Originally Posted by Patch
Sample anything you want, and use it however you want. The fact is, a ridiculously small amount of us will ever get any recognition for what we do.

Sampling is fun. You won't get caught. And if you do - GREAT! That's a nice bit of recognition for you!

THIS! Agreed, everyone needs to watch RIP! a remix manifesto, if you have a problem
Brunilda Kora
19.04.2012		Sample anything you want, and use it however you want. The fact is, a ridiculously small amount of us will ever get any recognition for what we do.

Sampling is fun. You won't get caught. And if you do - GREAT! That's a nice bit of recognition for you!
Gina Promes
19.04.2012		watch this video of alex metric in the studio he says a couple of things regarding tthat as he usually uses a lot of samples from records.

Sylvia Greener
19.04.2012		Taking the original sample and spicing it up with some FX (delay, reverb, stutter...) is still as illegal as taking the original sample itself. Recording a cover version of the original sample is also problematic as botstein said.
To avoid copyright issues best thing to do is asking for permission to use this sample. Or create some maybe similar but definitely new stuff!
Ervin Calvery
19.04.2012		Even if you interpolate it (rerecord or recreate the music), you might still be stealing their intellectual property. When I write the sheet music for whatever I record, I have a all-rights-reserved copyright on that as well.
Tessie Grether
19.04.2012		If you re-create it everything is ok, unless you remake a very distinct hook that is a big part of the original song.

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