Native Instruments Maschine vs. AKAI APC40 for a beginning producer
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Native Instruments Maschine vs. AKAI APC40 for a beginning producer Posted on: 27.08.2012 by Goldie Lemarbe Hi there,Since i'm DJing for quite a time now i want to start with producing so i'm looking for a decent controller (including software) I saw two controllers that i like and that are the Native Instruments Maschine, because of the including producer software (But is the software capable enough for producing a full track?) And the AKAI APC40 including Ableton live lite, with maybe a later update to the full Ableton live. The Maschine looks like more fun for me but can it do enough when i'm using it as a stand alone controller? Hope you guys can help me with some useful tips! And sorry if my english isn't that good, i'm from Holland. Dietch | |
| Rebbecca Fennell 29.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
never got into the ableton performance thing, i just use my apc to handle mixing duties. i like that paired with maschine, the only plug ins i have on my ableton channels are a 4 band eq and some basic stuff on the sends. paired with maschine, if i want a plugin, i use maschines interface to browse, load, and edit. no need for a mouse or keyboard with the exception of setting up your template. |
| Berta Baie 28.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by botstein
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| Ervin Calvery 28.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by diezdiazgiant
Originally Posted by diezdiazgiant
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| Goldie Lemarbe 27.08.2012 | Hi there, Since i'm DJing for quite a time now i want to start with producing so i'm looking for a decent controller (including software) I saw two controllers that i like and that are the Native Instruments Maschine, because of the including producer software (But is the software capable enough for producing a full track?) And the AKAI APC40 including Ableton live lite, with maybe a later update to the full Ableton live. The Maschine looks like more fun for me but can it do enough when i'm using it as a stand alone controller? Hope you guys can help me with some useful tips! And sorry if my english isn't that good, i'm from Holland. Dietch |
| Nedra Fresneda 29.08.2012 | Relevant http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=57307 |
| Rebbecca Fennell 29.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
never got into the ableton performance thing, i just use my apc to handle mixing duties. i like that paired with maschine, the only plug ins i have on my ableton channels are a 4 band eq and some basic stuff on the sends. paired with maschine, if i want a plugin, i use maschines interface to browse, load, and edit. no need for a mouse or keyboard with the exception of setting up your template. |
| Garfield Bangle 29.08.2012 | now that the new maschine with colorful pads are almost out nothing will stop us form getting it instead of any other drum machines with boring, colorless drumpad haha |
| Leeanna Ayla 28.08.2012 | I always thought of the APC as a performance tool and not really a production tool. Maschine's are still on sale for a few more days. BPM is also just over a month away. |
| Sydney Lashway 28.08.2012 | haven't used the APC but damn, that Maschine is something else... I started on FL, moved to Acid Pro 5 (at the time) then onto Cubase SX. I'm used to having a DAW/software that can do everything. especially with Cubase and to some extent Acid (Midi editing was weak then) but the Maschine can pretty much do everything. MIDI, sample, arrange, FX and FX chains. i do miss having the arrange view but if you're used to the song view that FL used to have you'll be fine with maschine. PLUS it comes with loads of samples, and VST's so you can get started making tracks right away. |
| Nedra Fresneda 29.08.2012 | I believe he means a keyboard/drumpad for a production scenario, the APC is targeted towards performance in session view (Ableton Performance Controller). It does have some extended scripts that expand it's functions but sometimes you just need velocity or some regularly laid out keys. |
| Berta Baie 28.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by botstein
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| Ervin Calvery 28.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by diezdiazgiant
Originally Posted by diezdiazgiant
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| Rebbecca Fennell 27.08.2012 | i too have both and believe theyre very complimentary to each other, but that being said - you can do a lot more with maschine out of the box. the apc was made to be paired with another controller, and provides a limited version of the software in the hopes that you want to upgrade. |
| Ervin Calvery 28.08.2012 | I have both and I use them together. If you are really just starting out I would go for Maschine. It might be my favorite controller. |
| Nedra Fresneda 27.08.2012 | Had both, my personal opinion is that Maschine is a much better solution to get you started on production. It's not a full DAW but that doesn't mean you can't write a full song in it. If you need more you could always pair it to Live (it has a fully featured 30 day demo) to give it that extra boost. The software is not perfect but IMO it has way tighter integration than the APC, you can write a song while laying on bed/couch without even looking at the screen, ever. The controller has an average official script for Live and a nicely implemented Mackie emulation, you can edit these easily to tailor your needs, the APC has NO MIDI editing capabilities and you are stuck with either Live's mode or dumb mode (all buttons acts as hold and you lose the banks. I used to brainstorm in Live's session view and build the arrangement upon that. Now Maschine has taken the first job. OT: If Akai decided to release a smaller version with only the endless knobs and faders i'd be all over it tho, you get way better clip feedback with an iPad. Basically I need an updated UC33 |
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