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Dubspot DJ School: Is it worth it?
Posted on: 10.10.2011 by Virgen Ganly
Been using Traktor/Traktor 2 for some time now and playing paid gigs on a somewhat regular basis. Just starting to learn abelton but looking to really tear it apart. In my search for online tutorials, I keep coming across these awesome videos for Dubspot DJ school in NY. After reading the descriptions and watching their videos it looks totally awesome. The only problem is the price...

$12,600 seems like an awful lot of money for an online certificate program... I guess what I'm asking is, has anyone taken any of their classes, online or in person, and what did you believe? Was it worth the money? Did you learn a lot and would you recommend it to a friend? Or... do you believe these courses are unnecessary? Is it possible to learn all of these things without paying a lot of money and if so, what do you believe is the best way?

I'm not knocking or promoting the insitution in any way. Just looking for the best way to learn more about the digital DJing and production stuff that we all love so much!

Thanks in advance for sharing your opinions and experiences,
Uncle DJ
Palmer Sanderbeck
13.10.2011
Originally Posted by Bigboibbp
actually a lot of the big names have the companies send them tutors. One of the guys who came to the store i work at to give us some "re-phreshers" on traktor and maschine was also the guy teaching bad boy bill how to use traktor and helping him through the "transition".

i believe he is still mostly on serato, but these companies will send their "tutors" when ever they can, and usually send them for free. Its a way to get their software seen a lot more often in the clubs... (Marketing/sales tactic anyone)
ah ok srry to put it wrong i just thought rom most experience when places say known names.....only they know them lol but still
Shantae Faile
13.10.2011
Originally Posted by chismay
Vernetta Gunther
13.10.2011
Hey Chismay,

I don't believe anybody overlooks the use of free videos (I definitely don't!) It's one of the reasons we endeavour to put out as much free content as we can. I wouldn't recommend for anybody to jump straight into taking a paid for course with us if they hadn't checked out our free tutorials or free sample courses. It's free stuff! Use it!

On your point about big name DJs and producers; I believe any of the examples you have given would bite the hand off an advertising company to have their music as a backing track. If you are looking for a open, creative job in the music industry, you can do a lot worse than writing music to a brief. That
Palmer Sanderbeck
13.10.2011
Latoria Kavulich
13.10.2011
^ Deal
Efrain Scharr
13.10.2011
pay me $10,000 and you can come stay with me for a month and I will teach you everything you need to know about DJing and producing. plus i will let you pick out one of my tshirts to take home as souvenir... as an added bonus I will wash it for you. I will also talk to you over skype so you can feel all kinds of neat inside.

PS. I'm not wearing any pants.
Vernetta Gunther
12.10.2011
Hey Uncle DJ,

Just wanted to get in and represent Point Blank Music School in here.

We are based in London, but also provide top quality onilne classes as well. We cover both performance, and also production, and the classes are taught by some of the best producers and DJs around.

Check out our Free Sample Courses Page, where you can have a go at a selection of the online classes for a number of different Ableton courses.

Link to shorter 4-8week Ableton Courses
Link to longer Online Ableton courses

Let me know what you believe!

Cheers,
James - PB
Hillary Razdan
12.10.2011
for $12000 wouldnt you just buy gear and learn by your self ?
Kandra Fagler
12.10.2011
Originally Posted by dafe
there are some ridiculously dodgy SAE's though. Signed up in Brisbane (oz). studio was pretty rubbish, macs were maintained poorly, with plenty not available, classes were oversubscribed so you struggled to even get a Mac or studio time, and the particular course lecturer i had was a 19 year old who wasn't very clear or concise. Waste of time
wow , surprised to hear that! over here in Singapore we have really awesome lecturers, they have so much knowledge that they are like the equivalent of jedi masters (lol) well they are pretty old so thats probably why they have heaps more experience than the 19 year old you mentioned

studio time can be tough during the finals but for the most part are pretty easy to get, plenty of full-stocked mac pros (the 4 core+ones) to be used as there are plenty of them, all loaded with goodies (reason,logic, protools and the lot) so some of the students who dont have a mac pretty much stays in the school 24/7

perhaps different countries have different management so it could be different, the TS can perhaps suss out the local branches and speak to the lecturers etc and check out what gear they got
Scarlett Saupp
12.10.2011
Originally Posted by DJZILCH
why dont you try SAE Institute?
there are some ridiculously dodgy SAE's though. Signed up in Brisbane (oz). studio was pretty rubbish, macs were maintained poorly, with plenty not available, classes were oversubscribed so you struggled to even get a Mac or studio time, and the particular course lecturer i had was a 19 year old who wasn't very clear or concise. Waste of time
Kandra Fagler
12.10.2011
why dont you try SAE Institute? I just finished their diploma (and now about to do the degree) and i find it was absolutely worth the money, they teach you starting from the basics (analog consoles, signal flows, decibels and fundamentals of audio etc) up until electronic music production, mastering, band recording etc

and you get to operate many world class gear and consoles like the SSL (not serato scratch live - solid state logic which is pretty much a $100,000 mixer) and you are free to book studio sessions to make use of their studio gear during the course of your studies

im not feelin this whole online course thing, you can learn a lot online for almost next to nothing but $12000 for it? better just put a little extra and do the live courses (as you mentioned $14000 something?), at least when you ask questions (and you will do - a lot!) you get an instant response and when you make a mistake they can immediately correct you or criticize you - the whole interaction aspect is, in my opinion, very important in audio engineering courses
Yajaira Hibbitts
11.10.2011
all i can say is that if you have money to burn then by all means but if not LIY learn it yourself. not everybody have money to burn in their pockets...
Romelia Stankard
11.10.2011
That reminds me I still have a credit for a weekend seminar, too bad I'm not in NY.
Danae Dumler
11.10.2011
I've taken a few of their one-off seminars - a couple weekends on Ableton and such. All in person and all great ... and not so ridiculously overpriced (like 200-300 per weekend, none of this five figure stuff). Personally I wouldn't spend that kind of money on online classes but if you did I'm pretty sure you would learn a lot.
Romelia Stankard
11.10.2011
To be fair if you did the whole thing in person I'm confident you would be magnitudes more equipped to produce music than if you got a degree from most technical colleges. The curriculum is extremely thorough.
Virgen Ganly
11.10.2011
Originally Posted by DJZILCH
$12600? damn thats a lot of money for an online course

do you at least get a diploma when you are done?

is it 100% online or is there any live one-on-one lectures?
Yeah it's $14,900 for the in person lectures in NY and $12,600 for just online courses.

http://www.dubspot.com/programs/digi...om=531#courses

http://www.dubspot.com/programs/djpr...om=531#courses
Dorie Scelzo
11.10.2011
Considering that I've never heard Endo
Glennis Cartin
11.10.2011
$12600? I'd rather indulge my RGAS habit actually....
Kandra Fagler
11.10.2011
$12600? damn thats a lot of money for an online course

do you at least get a diploma when you are done?

is it 100% online or is there any live one-on-one lectures?
Arline Receveur
11.10.2011
Have a look at http://sonicacademy.com/

30 bucks a month or something and you can view all their videos free via website. Great Vids and teach a shitload.

Ive taken some big tips from some of their videos which have helped me and I know they have some awsome beginner courses.
Adrien Hochstrasser
10.10.2011
That's the price of a small car... Go out and do small gigs and you'll learn fast enough. I believe qbert and company have videos you can buy too?
Romelia Stankard
10.10.2011
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
I'm just summarizing what you said (I believe) - it is worth it if you have the cash AND you live in N.Y. right? Not the online school?
Definitely worth it if you have cash to burn and do it in NY. I did it before the online school so I couldn't tell you. I'm sure you will learn a lot but I can't imagine it being the same and you miss out on the human element and networking opportunities which is way more valuable to me. If you do it in NY and get involved with the instructors it is easy to get some chances to gig out and meet a lot of people. If you get into production and do it in person there a good portion of the staff are successful producers with lots of contacts. You might get a little bit of that online but you don't have the social element and studio environment of interacting with everyone at dubspot.

Before the online thing I was friends with a guy a couple summers ago who actually moved to NY and stayed in NYU housing to take a bunch of the classes there. He got connected at dubspot and I'm pretty sure has since moved to NY for good and makes a living as a DJ and working at dubspot. That wouldn't have happened online.

That said the production stuff is a lot more expensive than the dj stuff. It is also definitely catered towards people who have money to spend on something interesting to them that they've wanted to try- I don't believe most people go there treating it like an education where they realistically expect to earn that money back. I'm sure some do though.
Carlee Pickard
10.10.2011
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
I took some classes in person a year or two ago (I didn't pay for it...). I took the DJ/producer package so DJ plus 3 levels of ableton. In person it was excellent and I learned a ton. You could learn it on your own but it takes patience and what I really got out of it was the experience and people I met. I used to hang out a dubspot and just practice mixing, work on production, or just screw around.

I met some really great and talented people, famous djs, and producers (John Selway taught me ableton). It was excellent and worth it for the networking. If you are really into it and get to know them you can start to hang out with them and go to their gigs, you can get small gigs with the dubspot crew, radio slots, they will introduce you to promoters and you will get to know the scene. I got some experience doing small gigs with the guy who ran the DJ class and he would bring along a few of the motivated students and give them slots. It was a ton of fun and a great experience. That said I wouldn't do it online because the real value was the face to face work and the people i met and hung around with outside of classes, but it might be worth it to you.

I miss NY.
I'm just summarizing what you said (I believe) - it is worth it if you have the cash AND you live in N.Y. right? Not the online school?
Romelia Stankard
10.10.2011
I took some classes in person a year or two ago (I didn't pay for it...). I took the DJ/producer package so DJ plus 3 levels of ableton. In person it was excellent and I learned a ton. You could learn it on your own but it takes patience and what I really got out of it was the experience and people I met. I used to hang out a dubspot and just practice mixing, work on production, or just screw around.

I met some really great and talented people, famous djs, and producers (John Selway taught me ableton). It was excellent and worth it for the networking. If you are really into it and get to know them you can start to hang out with them and go to their gigs, you can get small gigs with the dubspot crew, radio slots, they will introduce you to promoters and you will get to know the scene. I got some experience doing small gigs with the guy who ran the DJ class and he would bring along a few of the motivated students and give them slots. It was a ton of fun and a great experience. That said I wouldn't do it online because the real value was the face to face work and the people i met and hung around with outside of classes, but it might be worth it to you.

I miss NY.
Marguerite Truka
10.10.2011
personally id say the price is ridiculous. there are lots of uni's in the uk that do awesome degree's in music production. that being said they have some of the worlds best dh's and producers as tutors so if ur mega flush go for it
Freddie Henrichs
10.10.2011
Practice, practice, practice.............thats how you learn!

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