bitwig, how is it

bitwig, how is it
Posted on: 17.08.2012 by Yevette Matatall
how are the beta testers finding it?
Random X
12.10.2012
Originally Posted by snoemu5a
I find the browser system to be beyond moronic. And the mixer channels are at the bottom of the screen in a vertical fashion...
This is where I stopped reading and caring...

Seems you haven't even taken time to press the tab key or the onscreen icon where you can go from clip view to switch to session/timelined view.
(Or other icons with which you can switch visual elements on and off)

I do have experience with FL Studio/Cubase/Ableton/Reason/Rebirth/Mix Meister/Renoise/Fast Tracker/Rave-O-Lution creator, this adds up to more than 15 years of experience.
Not that I'm comparing ePenis though!

I still have not seen any added value of FruityLoops' automation extras.
Automations still have not gotten to the point that I desired on having, and was not able to automate on Ableton.

If and when the Bitwig automation is the same as Ableton, I'd be more than content and confident in using it.

To be honest the OP is asking for beta user experiences, I for one find Steve James his conclusions more solid to go by than yours.

Sorry if this seems like a kick in the grill snoemu5a, but this is my opinion and I mean no offense to you.
Carlee Pickard
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by snoemu5a
It's like cubase in that everything takes 4 more mouse clicks than is really necessary. And like LIVE in that the gui is freakin horrible and clumsily designed. Sounds tempting? :P
How so? Like what about Ableton makes it clumsily designed & horrible? I'm not trying to fight, just simply trying to appreciate your point of view, especially since I use Ableton and find it a pleasure to work with. Granted my experience with other DAWs such as FL and what not is pretty limited.
Kiyoko Wellisch
30.10.2012
Fighting a mod is never wise...

I find it odd that someone is complaining that a beta had lots of bugs. He does know what a beta is, right?
Random X
25.10.2012
Cool, here's a perm ban!

How about them apples, sweet cheeks.
Sparkle Faldyn
24.10.2012
Also, my comments were no racier than yours. Look at the big mod who can suspend people who don't agree with him. Go sit on it, you fairy.
Sparkle Faldyn
24.10.2012
Yes. I clearly stated that I was talking about the insert-part of the mixer. Not the (low resolution) fader + send&l/r below the channel track (at least in Live view). The way the mixer is integrated into the GUI is silly. Breakout window is a far superior solution when you're doing 8 bus channels sending stuff back and forth into eachother. And only two sends? C'mon. And why is there no built-in mid/side knob? It's a very stripped down and basic mixer, that is the opposite of limitless. You can workaround some of the stuff, with macros or what Ableton calls them, but the truth of the matter is that it does the very basics that a mixer should do, and nothing more. And if you can't see that, then you're obviously making very basic music.
Random X
12.10.2012
"Drop Audio Effects Here" is the mixer?

Obviously mixing stuff up here.

Also deleted your personal remarks and giving you a cool down period of a 10 days.
Sparkle Faldyn
12.10.2012
Pressing tab doesn't do anything to the mixer. At all. It's still on the bottom of the screen, yelling "Drop Audio Effects Here".

*snip*

But even though it's still a child, you can tell by the buck tooth and humpback that it's no future babe you're looking at.
Random X
12.10.2012
Originally Posted by snoemu5a
I find the browser system to be beyond moronic. And the mixer channels are at the bottom of the screen in a vertical fashion...
This is where I stopped reading and caring...

Seems you haven't even taken time to press the tab key or the onscreen icon where you can go from clip view to switch to session/timelined view.
(Or other icons with which you can switch visual elements on and off)

I do have experience with FL Studio/Cubase/Ableton/Reason/Rebirth/Mix Meister/Renoise/Fast Tracker/Rave-O-Lution creator, this adds up to more than 15 years of experience.
Not that I'm comparing ePenis though!

I still have not seen any added value of FruityLoops' automation extras.
Automations still have not gotten to the point that I desired on having, and was not able to automate on Ableton.

If and when the Bitwig automation is the same as Ableton, I'd be more than content and confident in using it.

To be honest the OP is asking for beta user experiences, I for one find Steve James his conclusions more solid to go by than yours.

Sorry if this seems like a kick in the grill snoemu5a, but this is my opinion and I mean no offense to you.
Celine Surico
11.10.2012
No AU support which is a big no-no for me. Any decent DAW should support AU on the Mac platform.
Lu Wubbenhorst
11.10.2012
@snoemu5a now im not going to start a war of words here as I feel your comments are immature and of a troll nature - & from your writing you are someone who may well of had no experience of the beta at all.

I am actually a registered beta tester and whilst I cannot and will not comment any further on what you have written, I will say this - you are incorrect and you know nothing other than what you have seen on the bitwig website (as described in your posts).

For those looking for more information on Bitwig Studio and how it is progressing, here at Bitwig Beats (unofficial community) we will keep all updated with the actual facts when we can...

www.bitwigbeats.com
Ervin Calvery
11.10.2012
No macros?
Sparkle Faldyn
11.10.2012
I find the browser system to be beyond moronic. And the mixer channels are at the bottom of the screen in a vertical fashion, and instead of having a clickable name to the effect it's always there, so if you do "crazy" 10-20 fx chains, like I often do, you'll have to minimize and dig everytime you need to change a tiny parameter. Don't get me wrong, Ableton is a fine piece of software, and it's capable of doing some pretty incredible things. it's just that there are a few design flaws that still havemt been fixed.
Oh and automation. Better than in cubase, but far from being as brilliant as on FL Studio.
Carlee Pickard
11.10.2012
Originally Posted by snoemu5a
It's like cubase in that everything takes 4 more mouse clicks than is really necessary. And like LIVE in that the gui is freakin horrible and clumsily designed. Sounds tempting? :P
How so? Like what about Ableton makes it clumsily designed & horrible? I'm not trying to fight, just simply trying to appreciate your point of view, especially since I use Ableton and find it a pleasure to work with. Granted my experience with other DAWs such as FL and what not is pretty limited.
Sparkle Faldyn
10.10.2012
It's like cubase in that everything takes 4 more mouse clicks than is really necessary. And like LIVE in that the gui is freakin horrible and clumsily designed. Sounds tempting? :P
Terra Merigold
10.10.2012
That's too bad. Sounds like the 'hype' talk was bigger than their walk. That's too bad... as I don't like LIVE, but love some of it's features... hoping this would be a nice blend of Cubase and Live that I gelled with.
Sparkle Faldyn
10.10.2012
It's pretty bad.
The GUI is far from being anything that can be called a finished product. Lots of bugs, cpu drain like a mafakka.
I will def. not be spending any money on this. The ONLY plus with it is that it comes for Linux too, but tbh I'd rather use Reaper than this POS DAW.

For the record, I have 15 years of experience using Cubase, FL Studio, Reason and Ableton+.
Lu Wubbenhorst
08.10.2012
for the unofficial bitwig community where everything bitwig is being talked about check out

www.bitwigbeats.com
Rosita Bourdeaux
26.09.2012
Bummer. Well here's a bump so hopefully someone with a key can chime in!
Random X
21.09.2012
Originally Posted by BlackJesus
Same here. Tekki didn't you get a green light for the beta?
I wish I got it... For now I have to do with questions I can ask directly at one of the Bitwig Studios guys.
Valeri Millstein
21.09.2012
I'm very interested in this DAW... I hope someone out there knows something...
Rosita Bourdeaux
09.09.2012
Same here. Tekki didn't you get a green light for the beta?
Ervin Calvery
09.09.2012
Originally Posted by tekki
Well, as long as VSTs are supported, AUs don't matter that much to me.
I'm with you there. I have a bunch of AU versions but they never get used.
Celine Surico
08.09.2012
Originally Posted by tekki
Well, as long as VSTs are supported, AUs don't matter that much to me.
There are many plug-ins and SW synths on the Mac platform that are shipped as AU only.
Random X
08.09.2012
Well, as long as VSTs are supported, AUs don't matter that much to me.
Celine Surico
07.09.2012
Not that many beta testers. I'm sure there's a reason why. No initial AU support was the biggest reason I will stay away from Bitwig until it's a first class DAW.
Rosita Bourdeaux
07.09.2012
Bump. I'm not sure if any testers will even read this but one can hope

Edit: Well maybe it isn't so far out of the realm of possibility. Oh me of little faith

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