How powerful is NI's Maschine for production?
How powerful is NI's Maschine for production? Posted on: 19.11.2012 by Alena Horten Do any pro's use it for production? Want to get into producing House and was lookin at Logic and Ableton but I like the hardware/software combo of Maschine but will I eventually "grow out of it" to more professional software, or is Maschine able to stand toe to toe with the the big guys? | |
| Dorie Scelzo 31.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by ThinkAboutIt
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| Ervin Calvery 18.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by WesErect
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| Nida Neuroth 07.01.2013 | From reading the 'artist' part on the NI website, it reads that The Bloody Beetroots do their production while travelling on maschine. deadmau5 has also been known to use maschine, but i believe he used it as a performance controller. hope that helps ! |
| Shan Bauerly 01.01.2013 | I wouldn't say Ableton is the preferred choice, by any means. Plenty of producers work in Logic or Pro Tools, et al. I certainly never could get my head around the workflow of Ableton as an editor. For clip launching - it's quite fun to play, I'll admit. I do love Logic though, and, it's only $200. I've had a Maschine MK2 for exactly a week, and it's a solid trip. And I know that I'm just scratching the surface. Definitely take the time to get to know the interface. They cram a lot into this little device. Run through all the tutorials and the manual. It integrates so easily with Logic... a talking monkey could do it. I spin house, mostly. I'm having fun using it for original "complimentary" grooves in various keys and playing it as a 3rd or 4th deck. Alas, it is very new to me - but, after a week, I can't see being without it. |
| Georgianna Eurick 31.12.2012 | Thank you for the fast answers |
| Dorie Scelzo 31.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by ThinkAboutIt
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| Ervin Calvery 31.12.2012 | Connect it by way of the computer - not to the maschine in hardware. |
| Georgianna Eurick 31.12.2012 | Sorry another question my keyboard doesn't have a midi output (only usb) how can I hook it up with maschine? I want to play a chord with a lead sound in it |
| Ervin Calvery 30.12.2012 | Maschine - I've moved on from MPCs. |
| Marnie Smallcomb 30.12.2012 | if you guys have to choose between an mpc-1000 or maschine, which one would it be??? and why?? thx. richard |
| Cody Mcnall 20.12.2012 | Maschine is sick. I actually use it by itself as I want to master that first before looking to pair it with another daw. But by itself it still a little beast. I also used it in Midi mode with my s2 and f1 in tracktor to trigger all my effects (created my own mapping). Check out maschinetutorials.com has eveything u need to know abou tmaschine workflow, tips and tricks, I started with that and learned so much more than I ever would of I did it on my own. |
| Dorie Scelzo 19.12.2012 | Depends on exactly how it works out with the way I have things set up in maschine, but I just use Maschine's bouncing to get audio bounces of each "sound" (meaning coherent "sounds", not maschine's sounds necessarily) and then import them to tracks. I've done it that way with Pro Tools and Logic, and it works great. I've also recorded from using it as a plugin…works about as well. |
| Georgianna Eurick 18.12.2012 | What's the best way to export your sounds/groups to ableton? I normally make a drum kit han divide them all to different groups than export them. How are you guys doing it? |
| Ervin Calvery 18.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by WesErect
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| Rea Kilbarger 17.12.2012 | Clearly Ableton is the DAW of choice these days, but does anyone have any experience using the Maschine with Logic? |
| Georgianna Eurick 17.12.2012 | that was fast thank you |
| Ming Devis 17.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by ThinkAboutIt
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| Georgianna Eurick 17.12.2012 | NI is giving 25€ voucher for the holiday. I'm believeing getting the Raw Voltage expansion. Do anybody have it already? I have the Dark Pressure for the techno tech-house and I believe Raw Voltage is suitable for it also |
| Jennifer Preissler 22.11.2012 | do mostly house and electro house, but the drop squad expansion is bad ass! first one with massive presents, and some pretty good ones too |
| Ming Devis 22.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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| Ashanti Andreacchio 22.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
And I also use Ableton for all long parts and Maschine for beats, bass and pads, for remixes. using Reason to make whole songs and maschine as a drum pad for that too. |
| Dorie Scelzo 22.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by ThinkAboutIt
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| Georgianna Eurick 22.11.2012 | All expansions are 50% off, nice!! Really wanted to buy that Steve Lawler's, now it's the time http://www.native-instruments.com/#/...sion&page=1773 |
| Dorie Scelzo 21.11.2012 | Which is why people use it with something else. Make the beat in Maschine, record vocals or whatever else in something else. But you don't need that to start off. |
| Jennifer Preissler 21.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Well said, the volumes especially on Maschine drive me crazy sometimes. I've also noticed that vocals have a hard time staying in time for anything longer than a few bars also, even with the time stretch feature. |
| Dorie Scelzo 21.11.2012 | Maschine is incredibly powerful on its own. I believe it falls short on exactly 2 counts from being a full-fledged DAW. 1) there's no good way to record vocals (or other long, non-repetitive segments) independent of scenes. Pickup notes, tails, etc. just don't work well with the way it works. 2) it's mixer sucks compared to those in a real DAW (Ableton, Logic, Pro Tools, etc.) or any actual hardware studio console. Both of those problems are easily solvable by using it in conjunction with other gear. But if you're not recording vocals and you're willing to do things the NI way (and use guitar rig to host your channel strips, which means being limited to NI's plugins for guitar rig) and not have any half decent level meters, it's perfectly possible to make a track from start to finish in Maschine, though it would be pretty taxing on your computer. That being said, NI's Solid Mix Series and Vintage Compressors, combined with some of the other effects available for Guitar Rig |
| Jennifer Preissler 21.11.2012 | You could use Maschine alone and there are tons of projects that come with the software/hardware that show how to use it. I believe if you are producing house you might find it better with something else. Things I love about the Maschine 1.8 VST ability, and each VST having most of the knob controls available to tweak with easy, and just pushing the page to scroll through all the options. This makes things so much more hands on. I also love the ability to master and slave sounds, this works great for starting out with a layer of kicks and then resampling them or just dragging and dropping the wave into a DAW. I personally will open up maschine by itself sample stuff, make kits, build drums, and basses especially with Massive, which comes free with 1.8 and is amazing! Add this to say Komplete 8 if you want to fork it out, and you have a powerful groove box, with FM8, Absynth, Massive, Abbey Roads, and tons of other VST's (Wih I had Komplete 8) That being said I do find myself using Maschine as a VST in Ableton, though with Ableton it is limited with what you can do with the control template or one you find or create. I tend to do a lot of mouse chopping and stuff with Ableton wish I could do a lot more with Maschine inside Ableton. I know you can route midi, and audio. But at the end of the day I like to see the wave forms all arranged. I believe what works best for me is bringing Maschine in as a VST building my sounds as much as I can in there, with effects and all, then dragging and dropping into ableton to arrange and tweak more. This being said you can also use Maschine to control ableton in live situations, and bounce back and forth with ableton and Maschine. All in all I believe Maschine is one of my favorite tools to use, and I hope it only gets better. |
| Nedra Fresneda 20.11.2012 | Not being able to sidechain inside Maschine is it's biggest drawback for me. I'm talking about sidechaining not only to the kick of a track but more traditional sidechaining such as linking something to an instrument or vocal. The pumping effect can be achieved partially with the filter's LFO and the right settings. |
| Cole Maroto 20.11.2012 | Maschine isn't even close to useless on its own. It's an amazing hardware and software combo, its just that most people are familiar with other daws and certain things can be done easier in a daw of preference. Arrangement and limitless effects are the two things that come to mind. With that said I still believe maschine is the best production purchase I've ever made |
| Alena Horten 20.11.2012 | Ok so forgive my confusion as I'm new to producing, but if Maschine is better in conjunction with another DAW then is it basically useless alone? Is that's how it's marketed, as a piece of gear and software that is best when used with another DAW? So Maschine isn't a DAW? What's the difference between something like Logic and Maschine's software? |
| Carlee Pickard 20.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
Hands down one of my favorite pieces of kit that I use, if not my favorite. |
| Nedra Fresneda 19.11.2012 | I use it in conjunction with Ableton, it's quite a powerful combo. If you are after the hardware/software integration you might just wait until Ableton 9 and Push are released and we get some reviews on them. |
| Cole Maroto 19.11.2012 | Steve lawler uses it and has a sound pack. Most people tend to use it in combo with another daw so you can have the best of both worlds. |
| Ervin Calvery 19.11.2012 | I use Maschine together with Ableton and Pro Tools. |
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