Ableton Live PERFECT Warping

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Ableton Live PERFECT Warping
Posted on: 13.01.2013 by Josefina Schutten
Hi guys, i've done this tutorial in order to make easy to understand how to warp perfectly an entire song in ableton!
Hope you enjoy (:

Tera Baragan
19.01.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
The internet. It's full of mis-information.
The way i see it is he posted a way that you CAN warp kinda and it works kinda well. But patch i know what you mean. He didn't warp it nearly how most songs truly need to be warped. I have never had a song that just worked when warping it to said bpm.

End point tho both ways let you warp things, just in different ways..
Josefina Schutten
19.01.2013
Originally Posted by AllDay
Where was the guy that made there more then one hater
Lol, it was a generic advice, like "Ignore stupid people".

I'm believeing again...what's wrong with this world?
Tera Baragan
19.01.2013
Originally Posted by Tarekith
Ignore the haters man, at least you're trying to help people out.
Where was the guy that made there more then one hater
Josefina Schutten
16.01.2013
Originally Posted by Tarekith
Ignore the haters man, at least you're trying to help people out.
thanks man [:
Josefina Schutten
15.01.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I'm outta here. Good luck to you.
Damn, i can't really get why when someone is trying to make something useful everyone is like

"oh did you know that you haven't warped it, you just set 1.1.1"
"oh did you know this work only with house track at 128 bpm"
"oh did you know this is the 100th video i see on this argument"
"oh did you know that you didn't warp this track because there the snare 1/1024 on the left off the beat"

Wtf is wrong with this world D:
Tera Baragan
14.01.2013
Originally Posted by patch
i'm outta here. Good luck to you.
lolol
Josefina Schutten
13.01.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
Hey - if it works for you, great.

But I'm not so sure about your 99% of tracks statement. Even tunes made in DAWs will drift slightly - and then you'll need additional warp markers.

But it's NOT warping - it is JUST time-stretching a tune to an average BPM. 2 completely different things.

If you warp a track properly (ANY track) you can create a loop at ANY point in the track and have NO issues with zero crossings/clicks/pops, etc...
Try it, you can loop every 8 bars, 16 bars, 32 bars and it'll sound great!

I'll make other videos on particular difficult song that you can believe are difficult to warp with only one warp maker

If it's produced with DAW's it's warpable in this way, believe me!
If it's produced with a rock band recorded live it's not warpable like this i believe xD

Ah, i believe the "Drift Slightly" you'll find some 1/128 1/64 changes, these are not errors in the warp but the SWING that the producer add to the track! and i believe it's better to leave the swing rather than destroy it with a lot of warp marker!
Josefina Schutten
13.01.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
You haven't really warped those tracks - just set the start point (1.1) and the average/mean tempo. That works for SOME house style racks (with a basic 4/4 kick drum) but WON'T work for most other types of music, or music ripped from vinyl.

Try warping a breakbeat tune that has been ripped from vinyl and see if it's that easy...
Damn xD i suppose that 99% of dj today are using music produced with a PC or DAW and not ripped from vinyl, if you want vinyl i don't believe you are going to use Ableton Live, maybe you're going to use two vinyl decks!

If you want to play Mozart or Giuseppe Verdi or heavy metal i believe you can have some problem with my technique also, but if this is so you're better to buy a Piano and not Live xD
if you're going to use modern music (99.99% of the music you listen at disco, party, festival, evening club is made with DAW) you'll definetely use this tecnhique because it's fast and precise, you don't need to put a lot of warp markers in ableton you REALLY need ONLY ONE! believe me it's the best way!

By the way this is the "Traktor way" of warping tracks (:
Josefina Schutten
13.01.2013
Hi guys, i've done this tutorial in order to make easy to understand how to warp perfectly an entire song in ableton!
Hope you enjoy (:

Tera Baragan
19.01.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
The internet. It's full of mis-information.
The way i see it is he posted a way that you CAN warp kinda and it works kinda well. But patch i know what you mean. He didn't warp it nearly how most songs truly need to be warped. I have never had a song that just worked when warping it to said bpm.

End point tho both ways let you warp things, just in different ways..
Brunilda Kora
19.01.2013
I'm believeing again...what's wrong with this world?
The internet. It's full of mis-information.
Josefina Schutten
19.01.2013
Originally Posted by AllDay
Where was the guy that made there more then one hater
Lol, it was a generic advice, like "Ignore stupid people".

I'm believeing again...what's wrong with this world?
Tera Baragan
19.01.2013
Originally Posted by Tarekith
Ignore the haters man, at least you're trying to help people out.
Where was the guy that made there more then one hater
Josefina Schutten
16.01.2013
Originally Posted by Tarekith
Ignore the haters man, at least you're trying to help people out.
thanks man [:
Monserrate Rupnow
15.01.2013
Ignore the haters man, at least you're trying to help people out.
Josefina Schutten
15.01.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
I'm outta here. Good luck to you.
Damn, i can't really get why when someone is trying to make something useful everyone is like

"oh did you know that you haven't warped it, you just set 1.1.1"
"oh did you know this work only with house track at 128 bpm"
"oh did you know this is the 100th video i see on this argument"
"oh did you know that you didn't warp this track because there the snare 1/1024 on the left off the beat"

Wtf is wrong with this world D:
Tera Baragan
14.01.2013
Originally Posted by patch
i'm outta here. Good luck to you.
lolol
Brunilda Kora
14.01.2013
Ah, i believe the "Drift Slightly" you'll find some 1/128 1/64 changes, these are not errors in the warp but the SWING that the producer add to the track!
I'm outta here. Good luck to you.
Josefina Schutten
13.01.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
Hey - if it works for you, great.

But I'm not so sure about your 99% of tracks statement. Even tunes made in DAWs will drift slightly - and then you'll need additional warp markers.

But it's NOT warping - it is JUST time-stretching a tune to an average BPM. 2 completely different things.

If you warp a track properly (ANY track) you can create a loop at ANY point in the track and have NO issues with zero crossings/clicks/pops, etc...
Try it, you can loop every 8 bars, 16 bars, 32 bars and it'll sound great!

I'll make other videos on particular difficult song that you can believe are difficult to warp with only one warp maker

If it's produced with DAW's it's warpable in this way, believe me!
If it's produced with a rock band recorded live it's not warpable like this i believe xD

Ah, i believe the "Drift Slightly" you'll find some 1/128 1/64 changes, these are not errors in the warp but the SWING that the producer add to the track! and i believe it's better to leave the swing rather than destroy it with a lot of warp marker!
Brunilda Kora
13.01.2013
Hey - if it works for you, great.

But I'm not so sure about your 99% of tracks statement. Even tunes made in DAWs will drift slightly - and then you'll need additional warp markers.

But it's NOT warping - it is JUST time-stretching a tune to an average BPM. 2 completely different things.

If you warp a track properly (ANY track) you can create a loop at ANY point in the track and have NO issues with zero crossings/clicks/pops, etc...
Josefina Schutten
13.01.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
You haven't really warped those tracks - just set the start point (1.1) and the average/mean tempo. That works for SOME house style racks (with a basic 4/4 kick drum) but WON'T work for most other types of music, or music ripped from vinyl.

Try warping a breakbeat tune that has been ripped from vinyl and see if it's that easy...
Damn xD i suppose that 99% of dj today are using music produced with a PC or DAW and not ripped from vinyl, if you want vinyl i don't believe you are going to use Ableton Live, maybe you're going to use two vinyl decks!

If you want to play Mozart or Giuseppe Verdi or heavy metal i believe you can have some problem with my technique also, but if this is so you're better to buy a Piano and not Live xD
if you're going to use modern music (99.99% of the music you listen at disco, party, festival, evening club is made with DAW) you'll definetely use this tecnhique because it's fast and precise, you don't need to put a lot of warp markers in ableton you REALLY need ONLY ONE! believe me it's the best way!

By the way this is the "Traktor way" of warping tracks (:
Brunilda Kora
13.01.2013
You haven't really warped those tracks - just set the start point (1.1) and the average/mean tempo. That works for SOME house style racks (with a basic 4/4 kick drum) but WON'T work for most other types of music, or music ripped from vinyl.

Try warping a breakbeat tune that has been ripped from vinyl and see if it's that easy...

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