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Creating a "different" sound
Posted on: 11.02.2013 by Sheri Knoche
So right now I have mainly been using Massive and Sylenth1 in my productions. I admit that I don't know the ends and outs of them, but for the most part I know them fairly well. My question is how some produces get these different sounding drops; such as Incredible by Borgore & Carnage, Hit It by Digital Lab & Hendrix & GTA, Head Up by Arno Cost, Clockwork's remix of Bless Di Nation, or Gregori Klosman's remix of Room for Happiness. Like I said, I don't know literally everything about my VSTs, so I am wondering if these VSTs are capable of producing these sounds and I just need to learn more, or if I'm missing out on one. I ask because I am currently working on a track and would like to have a sound like these examples for the drop. I have searched Google numerous times to see if I can find something to help me out, but I haven't had any luck.

Any help is appreciate, thanks.
Starla Lansdon
11.02.2013
All of this can be achieved with Massive I believe. But knowing the Synth inside out is in my opinion the only way you will be able to get to a professional and intuitive workflow. Just some quick tips on the "type" of sound you are after:

1. Never forget about the envelopes in Massive. I.e. if you want a stabby/plucky sound, try using the filter like this:
Bildschirmfoto 2013-02-11 um 21.49.17.jpg

2. Many "popular" sounds can be done by just using the standard waveforms like sine/saw/square and by using only one oscillator.

3. Try layering sounds. For the main synth in "Incredible" you can build the body of a sound separate and add the whip-like clash by just using the White-Noise Oscillator and a filter as described above. Layering sound can be done the easiest with Ableton's chain-function: Highlight your instance of Massive, prees Cmd + G, just duplicate the Chain and edit it from there. Using this technique you don't have to believe about copying notes / automations etc.

4. It will take time until you are able to develop interesting sounds that you like. Once you got one you're satisfied with, process the hell out of it! Use distortion, EQing and all kinds of crazy stuff that come to mind. When creating Electro-House ALWAYS use pitch-bends to keep things moving and prevent them from sounding static.

Those are just some small tips, if you need further advice, feel free to ask.
Sheri Knoche
11.02.2013
So right now I have mainly been using Massive and Sylenth1 in my productions. I admit that I don't know the ends and outs of them, but for the most part I know them fairly well. My question is how some produces get these different sounding drops; such as Incredible by Borgore & Carnage, Hit It by Digital Lab & Hendrix & GTA, Head Up by Arno Cost, Clockwork's remix of Bless Di Nation, or Gregori Klosman's remix of Room for Happiness. Like I said, I don't know literally everything about my VSTs, so I am wondering if these VSTs are capable of producing these sounds and I just need to learn more, or if I'm missing out on one. I ask because I am currently working on a track and would like to have a sound like these examples for the drop. I have searched Google numerous times to see if I can find something to help me out, but I haven't had any luck.

Any help is appreciate, thanks.
Sheri Knoche
11.02.2013
Thanks all. I'll start getting into it.
Monserrate Rupnow
11.02.2013
Agreed. It's not about it being super secret tool, it's about knowing your tools well enough to come up with your own techniques. Both of the synths you have are capable of probably most of the sounds you hear, it just takes time and patience to learn how to use them fully. The ends and outs are where the fun stuff happens a lot of time, so take the time to check out youtube or something to learn in and outs of your synths.
Ervin Calvery
11.02.2013
+1 for Massive's envelopes.

Check out massivesynth.com.

I'm not a Sylenth1 fan at all.
Starla Lansdon
11.02.2013
All of this can be achieved with Massive I believe. But knowing the Synth inside out is in my opinion the only way you will be able to get to a professional and intuitive workflow. Just some quick tips on the "type" of sound you are after:

1. Never forget about the envelopes in Massive. I.e. if you want a stabby/plucky sound, try using the filter like this:
Bildschirmfoto 2013-02-11 um 21.49.17.jpg

2. Many "popular" sounds can be done by just using the standard waveforms like sine/saw/square and by using only one oscillator.

3. Try layering sounds. For the main synth in "Incredible" you can build the body of a sound separate and add the whip-like clash by just using the White-Noise Oscillator and a filter as described above. Layering sound can be done the easiest with Ableton's chain-function: Highlight your instance of Massive, prees Cmd + G, just duplicate the Chain and edit it from there. Using this technique you don't have to believe about copying notes / automations etc.

4. It will take time until you are able to develop interesting sounds that you like. Once you got one you're satisfied with, process the hell out of it! Use distortion, EQing and all kinds of crazy stuff that come to mind. When creating Electro-House ALWAYS use pitch-bends to keep things moving and prevent them from sounding static.

Those are just some small tips, if you need further advice, feel free to ask.

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