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Do "professional" producers use loops? What is your view on loops?
Posted on: 30.10.2013 by Bernard Pulizzi
As long as I've been producing my own music (if you can call it that), I've steered as far away from loops as possible - part of some moral issue I have within myself where I challenge myself to make a loop myself of the same quality so I can sleep at evening knowing I haven't fully ripped someone else's work.

What is your standing on using loops in your productions, does it bother you?

Interested to know everyone's viewpoint on this one, quite an interesting topic to me.
Sherrell Dargenio
06.11.2013
Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk
sure drum machines and old hardware sequencers were essentially creating loops...
I've actually been wondering the same thing so I'm glad I came across this topic. I'm not a fan of using loops overall, mostly because I like to create everything myself however sometimes they're nice to have around. Personally, I believe that if you edit the sounds for your own personal preferance then nobody should really be able to fault one for using them.
Bernard Pulizzi
30.10.2013
As long as I've been producing my own music (if you can call it that), I've steered as far away from loops as possible - part of some moral issue I have within myself where I challenge myself to make a loop myself of the same quality so I can sleep at evening knowing I haven't fully ripped someone else's work.

What is your standing on using loops in your productions, does it bother you?

Interested to know everyone's viewpoint on this one, quite an interesting topic to me.
Tera Baragan
07.11.2013
I quite often use drum loops and stuff in behind my own drums to layer and give texture. Its actually a known and well used process
Ming Devis
07.11.2013
Nothing wrong with using them if you are doing something creative with it. Process,Sample etc
Johnsie Kingrea
06.11.2013
I believe loops/loop packs are a great way for beginners to understand all the different components of a song, especially remix stems. It's funny that today there is such an emphasis on production for DJ's if they want to really stand out or get noticed. Yet the advice usually starts and stops at: "you have to learn to produce, get a DAW, and just start messing around."

I believe more people should suggest loop packs for beginners and from there just start extremely small and basic. Take a song you like and maybe try out different drum loops from a loop pack. This is especially useful with remix stems. Take the original drums out of the mix and you can cleanly throw in your own drum loops, or just take the bass out and try adding in your own bass/bass loops. That's what I mean by starting small. Don't try to completely remix the whole thing, just start by switching one element of the track.
Sherrell Dargenio
06.11.2013
Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk
sure drum machines and old hardware sequencers were essentially creating loops...
I've actually been wondering the same thing so I'm glad I came across this topic. I'm not a fan of using loops overall, mostly because I like to create everything myself however sometimes they're nice to have around. Personally, I believe that if you edit the sounds for your own personal preferance then nobody should really be able to fault one for using them.
Teresia Janusch
05.11.2013
sure drum machines and old hardware sequencers were essentially creating loops...
Giselle Giffels
04.11.2013
This is just MY advice. Don't use loops. Sample from them. Like that snare? Take it.
Dannie Dimora
01.11.2013
Fort minor used a loop from garageband...
Rodolfo Oriol
31.10.2013
Loops is fine. Aslong as you don't build up a whole freaking track consisting of just loops. That would take away the fun of producing.
Lakeesha Storman
30.10.2013
You could always cut up the loops and play them in a different order, etc to make it less recognizable as well. Personally, I have no issue with using a sample or loop as a background part of the song, I love hearing familiar loops and samples that cause me to want to hear that song from 1989 again. But, I believe it has to be a very small, complimentary part of the song.
Berta Baie
30.10.2013
What kind of loops are you talking about here? Percussion loops or melody loops? The answer to your question is "yes" they do on both fronts.

Imo percussion loops are fine. That kind of stuff won't make your tracks sound cookie cutter or anything like that because unless you are really paying attention to a ridiculous degree, no one can really tell what is going on there, especially if its been layered with other drum sounds.

Melody loops or pre-made MIDI loops, however, I believe start to become a little shady. Now we are talking about definable aspects of the song you simply didn't write. That may be ok for genres like hip-hop where nearly everything about a song is sampled, but in the house world I believe you need to strive to do better, especially if you are a producer just getting started and want to be taken seriously at all.

I mean the ultimate of this is the Steve Angelo example where he used like all Vengeance melody samples for that one song, and that was a hit. Thus proving that the general public has no idea any of this stuff even exists, nor do they care as long as it sounds good. So take that for what it's worth.
Temple Cervelli
30.10.2013
Yes they do, whoever produced Rhianna's 'Umbrella' track, used a loop from Logic Pro, It's the 'vintage funk kit 03'. Take a listen to it.

https://soundcloud.com/the-garageban...it-03-umbrella
Hellen Mindrup
30.10.2013
No one can really tell you weather or not to use loops.... When it comes time to learning how to produce, or learning a new DAW, loops are your best friend. I feel that once you get a better understanding of production, you would maybe want to stay away from loops and just make everything yourself for creative purposes. If you plan on eventually sending out promos of your work, people who know what they are doing will recognize your loops instantly. I'm with Patch when he says do whatever you want, but the whole "no one really cares" thing doesn't fit here, because we all know that there are types out there that will and do care. Me, personally, I used loops when I started, but now my goal is to do everything from scratch. Makes it fun and challenging, plus you can really surprise yourself
Brunilda Kora
30.10.2013
There is no reason NOT to use loops. It's just an extension of taking samples from old records, except, "loops" are being presented as pre-created samples for you to use.

Do what ever you want. No-one really cares.

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