Questions about the Denon Dn-s3700 with Serato and Traktor.
Questions about the Denon Dn-s3700 with Serato and Traktor. Posted on: 27.06.2011 by Molly Brehl So i just bought myself some denon dn-s3700's, but i havent bought a mixer yet. I want to use the denons with traktor scratch pro, mainly because i all ready own it. But if there is no easy way to get everything to work without timecode then ill look into scatch live.Here is a video that shows two dn-s3700's working in traktor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYxVndiKxLQ Now the question is, do i need to buy the Dn-x1600 to use my s3700's in traktor without timecode. -How well do they work in traktor? -What are the benefits of using hybrid midi mode instead of timecode? -How hard is it to get midi mode working on either traktor or serato scratch live? -Thanks for all the help! | |
| Molly Brehl 26.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by Invoke
Is there a difference between midi mode and hybrid mode? -You said my platter works the same, but i can take advantage of the buttons. So basically running the denon dn-s3700's in midi mode will basically turn them into a midi controller and i can use the effects in traktor ext, and the platter spins as well? Thanks agian! you've helped allot! |
| Molly Brehl 27.06.2011 | So i just bought myself some denon dn-s3700's, but i havent bought a mixer yet. I want to use the denons with traktor scratch pro, mainly because i all ready own it. But if there is no easy way to get everything to work without timecode then ill look into scatch live. Here is a video that shows two dn-s3700's working in traktor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYxVndiKxLQ Now the question is, do i need to buy the Dn-x1600 to use my s3700's in traktor without timecode. -How well do they work in traktor? -What are the benefits of using hybrid midi mode instead of timecode? -How hard is it to get midi mode working on either traktor or serato scratch live? -Thanks for all the help! |
| Tari Virdi 27.09.2011 | DJ EXPO, ATLANTIC CITY, NJ, August 16, 2010 � Denon DJ, a leading manufacturer of reliable, premium-grade DJ gear
, announces a major enhancement to its popular DN-S3700 Digital Media Turntable with the introduction of the new MIDI Hybrid mode via a free firmware update scheduled for late September 2010. Current users and future owners of the DN-S3700 will be able to use various supported DVS applications (on either a PC or Mac�) such as Serato� Scratch Live, for direct spinning platter control using Denon DJ�s world�s-first built-in Relative mode timecode signal generator, in conjunction with the users� DVS-supported sound card or Denon DVS-supported mixers such as the DN-X1600 and DN-X600. This means that traditional CD timecode (and flash drive) media is no longer required for Relative mode operation because this required tone is generated inside the unit�s DSP, and outputs through the analog RCA connectors of the DN-S3700 during Hybrid mode. Various other surrounding keys and knobs are freely available to MIDI map as the user sees fit. Other firmware improvements with this release include new Auto BPM detection engine, doubled Platter Resolution and position accuracy via a newly-added preset. With the addition of MIDI Hybrid mode, the DN-S3700 Digital Media Turntable is giving working DJs an even more comprehensive tool and solution they need to succeed and grow their creative talents. Read more: http://www.skratchworx.com/newspage....#ixzz1Z9dp99cW |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 26.06.2011 | In that video he's just using timecode and scratching. tbh he doesn't even need timecode for that. could just do it with a cd. He's got them plugged into the SL soundcard, same as you would normally. Stop getting confused by the hybrid mode, it's totally negligible and not a reason to go for this cd player. If anything actually supported it it would be good but nothing does. It's a gimmick feature. Either decide you want CD players with a spinning platter and get these or go for some turntables or regular cd players. That simple really. |
| Molly Brehl 26.06.2011 | So hybrid midi mode allows spinning platter movement as if using timecode, but there is no timecode in the CD slot. The rest of the CD player (s3700's) acts as a mappable midi controller? And this works with traktor and SSL even though it is not natively supported by either? Is that is what is happening in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEmqKSsAkVU so all the transport controls ext, work with serato and he still has moving platters but not using timecode CD's. This is great, but i dont really understand how it works if the s3700's are not natively supported by Serato. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 26.06.2011 | No it doesn't, hence the timecode hybrid mode. |
| Julissa Serrone 26.06.2011 | Does traktor have native support for the 3700's and spinning platters? I have CDJ 400's and tried them in HID mode both with SSL and Traktor. You don't need any timecode or CD, they just work like big midi controllers. The CDJ's work much better in SSL than in Traktor. If the support is the same, and Serato has native support for the 3700's you just plug in and play. If it is the same with Traktor and the 3700's, then you do not need time code support. Unless I'm guessing Hybrid mode is the platters work with timecode and everything else is a midi controller? What is the advantage you asked. Well you get the tactile feel of using "real" gear so to speak and the CDJ's then control traktor functions. With Timecode the CDJ's would only control it's own CD functions. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 26.06.2011 | No, you still need a certified mixer or a soundcard, like I said. |
| Molly Brehl 26.06.2011 | OK, so i understand the mixers and traktor sound cards but i still dont understand the difference between midi mode, hybrid mode or hybrid midi mode. Are they all the same thing. If hybrid mode is really the same thing as using timecode, just not using a timecode CD, then do i still need an external sound card when using hybrid/midi mode or can i just plug the denon dn-s3700's into my laptop without a sound card? - |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 26.06.2011 | The only thing hybrid midi mode really does it mean you can use timecode without actually using a CD with the timecode track on it since it is saved internally. You don't need to buy a traktor certified mixer to use those CD players with traktor. In order to use traktor timecode you need to use either a traktor certified mixer OR one of the traktor soundcards with inputs (audio 4, 6, 8 or 10). The advantage of a certified mixer is basically you don't have to worry about plugging in your soundcard. It's alright but honestly you need to get the full traktor package with the soundcard since if you buy traktor scratch without it you are unable to play anywhere as you don't have a soundcard. Unless you want to carry your mixer about with you everywhere, haha. |
| Kristin Tesfamichael 26.06.2011 | yeah the platter usually works alot better with timecode than it does in midi. which is why hybrid mode is so cool. |
| Molly Brehl 26.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by Invoke
Is there a difference between midi mode and hybrid mode? -You said my platter works the same, but i can take advantage of the buttons. So basically running the denon dn-s3700's in midi mode will basically turn them into a midi controller and i can use the effects in traktor ext, and the platter spins as well? Thanks agian! you've helped allot! |
| Kristin Tesfamichael 26.06.2011 | no you don't have to buy the mixer to use them without timecode. I don't believe the dn-s3700's are traktor certified but they do have mappings for traktor and their is a hybrid midi mode setting that works for traktor as well. 1.they have hybrid midi mode. its pretty cool its like you have timecode in, but you can map all the controls and buttons on the decks like if you where in midi mode. 2. you platter works the same, but now you could take advantage of all of the buttons on the decks 3.there should be mappings available for traktor so it's pretty easy, just have to set your player to use the right hybrid midi mode setting for either traktor or serato |
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