Which CDJ is best to work with for SSL
Which CDJ is best to work with for SSL Posted on: 09.09.2011 by Jamison Petkovich from my budget my choice are between Pioneer CDJ 800 Pioneer CDJ 400 Pioneer CDJ 350 numark ndx 800 or if you have any other CDJ suggestions please do ... thanks tom | |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 20.09.2011 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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| Dorie Scelzo 19.09.2011 | Seriously |
| Tatum Ansaldo 06.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by dope
Native support is what they call HID control over USB. This is how it's set up: Essentially you're using your CDJs as controllers, no need to connect the RCA cables. It's better than TC because you can use all the CDJ features such as looping within serato, master tempo activates keylock, track info is displayed on the CDJ screen and you can browse with the scroll wheel. Also in my experience it's more accurate for cueing, and if you press cue the waveform on the laptop screen actually goes back to the start. It's great, but as others have said you do want to make sure you know how to deal with TC as well because you can't guarantee up to date CDJs at a venue. |
| Tatum Ansaldo 04.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJ ATX
You can use CDJ-900s as HID controllers for SSL (and they work very well indeed) but not as audio devices. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 20.09.2011 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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| Dorie Scelzo 19.09.2011 | Seriously |
| Tatum Ansaldo 06.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by dope
Native support is what they call HID control over USB. This is how it's set up: Essentially you're using your CDJs as controllers, no need to connect the RCA cables. It's better than TC because you can use all the CDJ features such as looping within serato, master tempo activates keylock, track info is displayed on the CDJ screen and you can browse with the scroll wheel. Also in my experience it's more accurate for cueing, and if you press cue the waveform on the laptop screen actually goes back to the start. It's great, but as others have said you do want to make sure you know how to deal with TC as well because you can't guarantee up to date CDJs at a venue. |
| Sharri Kenimer 06.11.2011 |
What's bad with timecode ?
(In SSL Relative mode) on a CDJ. I don't believe you'll experience any sticker drift in HID mode, and you most certainly won't experience it with time code vinyl.... |
| Alexandra Nerby 05.11.2011 | I have Native Support on my 400s, but still choose to use the Audio 4 as their soundcard. Nothing wrong with the CDJ ones, but it's just personal preference. |
| Kasi Marget 05.11.2011 | Yeah, if your CDJs have a built in soundcard no external soundcard needed. That seems cool at first glance but when you have to play outside your loved bedroom, then, CDJs as MIDI controllers are a mess. If you don't know what are the CDJs at the gig you are going to play, or if you have mapping issues, configuration issues etc, it's a mess. And you can't come in the booth with your own CDJs under each arm. MIDI control is awesome for home, but not for touring/mixing outside home. DVS, you plug few RCAs and it's over. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 04.11.2011 | You don't have to wire up your soundcard with native support, do you? That'd be a nice change from that hassle. Assuming I'm correct, I dunno. |
| Kasi Marget 04.11.2011 | @Fullenglishpint I'm using your bump to ask you a question. When on this thread first page you said
and the native support is soooo much nicer than using timecode.
If the answer is yes, why is that so much nicer than timecode ? What's bad with timecode ? Thanks in advance |
| Tatum Ansaldo 04.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJ ATX
You can use CDJ-900s as HID controllers for SSL (and they work very well indeed) but not as audio devices. |
| Teodoro Woolever 04.11.2011 | How about the CDJ900? Its a got a sound card built in for Scratch Live and natively supported by Serato and Traktor...and VDJ for that matter. But I own a Denon DNS3700. So that one gets my vote. |
| Rena Estabrook 31.10.2011 | For timecode, the Technics DZ1200. |
| Dione Haimes 29.09.2011 | Plus the 400s are portable as well, but my $0.02 is never buy 350's, a mate has them, the FX on the mixer is TERRIBLE, the "exact" BPM is normally a mile off, and theyre just generally crap players. |
| Julissa Serrone 20.09.2011 | I got a pair used for 450.00 (for the pair). Best 450.00 I ever spent. In HID mode they work awesome with SSL. ....agreed though, the jogs are not the smoothest, a little plastic feeling to them, but functionality wise they are pretty damn good. |
| Kiyoko Wellisch 20.09.2011 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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| Xenia Gorin 19.09.2011 | Denon 3700's is the answer to all your needs....... |
| Dorie Scelzo 19.09.2011 | Seriously |
| Matthew Urtel 18.09.2011 | Denon 3700s /thread |
| Dione Haimes 18.09.2011 | 350's arent a touch on 400's, a bar i play in sometimes has 400s and they are brilliant little players, 350s just suck imo. |
| Alexandra Nerby 17.09.2011 | Does anyone know all the models of CDJs that support native mode for Traktor? I know that the 400s do, since that is what I use, someone just said, 350 as well. I am going to get one more to add to my 4 channel until I have a complete set haha. I am looking at the 800mkII at the moment, but don't want to upgrade from Pro to Scratch. I like the Native Support much better. |
| Tatum Ansaldo 17.09.2011 | They have crappy jogs though. For the money you might as well get a controller. |
| Ina Laurenson 17.09.2011 | get the 350's, after all, they are the upgrade to the 400, plus they look great and serato supports them in hid now |
| Jamison Petkovich 15.09.2011 | i agree with full english, unless your getting constant gigs, for the bedroom cdj 2000's are just totally uneccesery |
| Tatum Ansaldo 13.09.2011 | Just got my second CDJ-850. Love them. In SSL they work fantastically, you've got the big pio jogwheel and pitch fader but I got them for |
| Cristian Carmona 13.09.2011 | the cdj-1000 are ok with dvs, but overall best bang for the buck with features are the cdj-400. CDJ-2000 are a joke, unless you show up to a gig with a thumb drive. |
| Vernie Beharry 13.09.2011 | Been a while since I've posted anything in the community
s. . .but now I'm in the Serato parts of the community
s (My cup of tea!). . . Pioneer's will always rule the scene, as they are pretty much standard in major venues. By me being a Technic 1200 / vinyl junkie, I always loved the feedback from vinyl. I believe the best CDJ IMHO is the Denon DN-S3700. . .I especially liked the Hybrid Mode for DVS set-ups. . . just tossing my $.02 in. |
| Dorie Scelzo 13.09.2011 |
Originally Posted by Gryz
CDJ-350, 400, and those numark things don't feel like real decks any more than my CDJ-200s did |
| Alexandra Nerby 14.09.2011 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
They are indeed CDJs, just perhaps not as evolved as the newer standards that cost 2-4 times as much. I have no need for all those extra features and would never justify buying $1000+ decks for a few features I can do in Traktor. |
| Xenia Gorin 14.09.2011 | Is take my Denon 3700's over those Pioneers any day............I mean like anything they have there pros & cons but I like a spinning platter. Just sayin..... Huey |
| Dorie Scelzo 13.09.2011 | The 800s are the closest decks on your list to not sucking. The rest of them are not worth buying, and anyone who says differently has never played on real CDJs. |
| Alexandra Nerby 13.09.2011 | 400s here as well. Got refurbed for a steal and actually don't even believe they were used by anyone before Pioneer realized there was an issue. Not a stinking fingerprint on them when I got them. Love them to death and haven't had an issue ever. Might even buy 2 more! |
| Julissa Serrone 12.09.2011 | I have 400's and they work PERFECT in HID mode. I'd get those over the other ones because you have three free buttons you can map on them. Second choice would be the 350's because you can use rekorderbox with them and SSL now supports them in HID mode. |
| Xenia Gorin 10.09.2011 | Have you checked out the Denon 3700's.......don't sleep on those. Good Luck and test them all if you can Huey |
| Lisa Lochotzki 10.09.2011 | There's no problem to get CDJ400 parts from any decent supplier. |
| Tatum Ansaldo 10.09.2011 | I believe you can probably still get parts for 400s, and those would be my suggestion as well since they have native HID support with SSL. I picked up a single CDJ-850 the other day (found a great price), and the native support is soooo much nicer than using timecode. |
| Jamison Petkovich 10.09.2011 | could get the cdj 400s no probelm but they would be used but if they were to brake what would be the case are the part still avalible |
| Cristian Carmona 09.09.2011 | if you could find the CDJ-400 i would go with those. I personally used the 800s with timecode and they worked great, just the cue points would drive me nuts. CDJ-400 all the way. |
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