Does SSL have a phase meter?
Does SSL have a phase meter? Posted on: 28.03.2012 by Glennis Cartin Quick question, as I cant be bothered searching through manuals or downloading SSL just to see.Does SSL have a Traktor Style phase meter (or equivalent) which tells you how far in/out of sync your tracks are? Cheers | |
| Tesha Freudenstein 02.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by jezalenko
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| Wei Lebeaux 01.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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| Glennis Cartin 31.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by lucidstrings
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| Trista Karle 03.04.2012 | I look at my screen for maybe 10 seconds per track and never touch keyboard or mouse hate seeing djs that stare at a screen or hit a keyboard |
| Trista Karle 03.04.2012 | Lol oh it totally is I believe because can really get precise and do crazy long transitions with near perfect timing |
| Dorie Scelzo 03.04.2012 | I don't believe I'd use one during a transition. Feels like cheating. I keep vacillating between wanting to get a set of Dicers and map out them and my lpd8 to control some effects and looping and Ableton……and wanting to switch to the browser-only view, lock them in Absolute, set the laptop behind me, and start transitioning back to spinning Vinyl. |
| Trista Karle 02.04.2012 | Ns6 looping is great I been into looping since I first saw seamless loop like wow it's a great bit but I only use it with transitions tho? I don't loop other then that |
| Dorie Scelzo 02.04.2012 | I should really look into mapping some controls to looping/effects or something. I've been enjoying not having them. |
| Trista Karle 02.04.2012 | I always have been one to like mixed cueing when beat matching and such I find way easier then split. I don't know why but it has been for the longest time my main method for cueing. Most the time I keep it on 50/50 and then pull the cans off. I also make heavy use of 32bar loop so once I have it matched and how I like I will take cans off do other shit and then upfade. Usually I check to make sure all still sounds right before I upfade. But then cans off while mixing an use my monitors. I have been experimenting more with filters for introducing the incoming track. Back off eqs to about 25% have 100%wet lpf or hpf and res set at 50% or so then bring in knock wet to 50% bring eqs up high mid knock filter to 0 kill 32bar loop when in Time do the low switch and ya Sorry to hijack just figured see if anyone been doing this with itch/ssl |
| Dorie Scelzo 02.04.2012 | Without split cue? It's easy. Split cue always confused me for some reason…way harder than one ear on with monitors…there's a little bleed from the monitors into the headphones that makes things easier…or you can do it if you have a blend knob. I guess I just like hearing some measure of both in my headphones. |
| Audrey Pinda 02.04.2012 | Something that I've gotten used to, and realize isn't the norm, is having the fader for the split cueing. Most other mixers I've used have had the knob, but I've actually started to like having the fader. Yeah I have to switch it around all the time, but it's a solid method. Also having the button for the mix/master is really nice. Hit that quick (esp if I'm mixing late at evening and am basically just using the headphones since I have to be quiet) and I can hear what's coming out of the speakers without having to mess with the fader. Also was a life-saver when I was spinning at this last house-party and didn't have a monitor setup, and needed to hear the main mix in the headphones to make sure things were coming out correctly. I don't really understand how you can't get by without split cue. Maybe it's just me. |
| Tesha Freudenstein 02.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by jezalenko
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| Dorie Scelzo 02.04.2012 | My crossfader came useless. There's no way to close it on either side. It sounds like somebody did a scrape mod and screwed it up. I'd care if I ever scratched, and I would have bought an innofader and made it work if I did. |
| Wei Lebeaux 01.04.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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| Dorie Scelzo 31.03.2012 | Sonically, it's not that great of a mixer…it's fine, just a little noisy. Also, mine is newer and it traded the ears for XLR outs…I'd prefer to have both. But the cuing system is why I bought it. I can mix in earbuds if I have to, and it takes basically no thought at this point. |
| Glennis Cartin 31.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by lucidstrings
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| Trista Karle 31.03.2012 | I hear ya on knobb twisting really wishing wasn't in awkward spot on the ns6. I really wish itch wasn't so closed would make me happy. |
| Dorie Scelzo 30.03.2012 | I do. |
| Glennis Cartin 30.03.2012 | It's just my style/what I'm used to. I'll bring the mix in with cans on, then knock them off and listen to the main mix as I finish bringing in the new track. I still find split-cue wierd, and fiddling with a knob halfway through a mix whist keeping my cans on is just not what I'm used to. Ahh well, something to learn right? |
| Trista Karle 30.03.2012 | Am I the only one that uses cue combined to hear both tracks through the cans? It makes relying on venue acoustics not an issue I've mixed like this for so long I can't even begin to tell ya how nice it is |
| Dorie Scelzo 30.03.2012 | Oh, weird. At least it went well. |
| Glennis Cartin 30.03.2012 | Thanks for your help guys, it's appreciated. Gig went well, turns out I was playing on my mate's NS6 running Itch. Not what I expected, as I was trying to get used to Itch and the NS6 whilst playing a set! |
| Dorie Scelzo 29.03.2012 | Good luck. Also, learn how to mix in IEMs. Then, even if you don't prefer it, if you've got them with you, you don't have to worry about monitors/acoustics as much. |
| Glennis Cartin 29.03.2012 | Cheers Mostapha I agree with you on doing it by ear, but I've been told the venue has some bad acoustics around the booth, and I'm mixing funk, not the usual house. If it was House, I'd have no problems, but the beats don't stand out as much in the funk I own. Ahh well, I'll let you know how it goes - worst comes to worst I can always mix in the breakdown. Thanks! |
| Dorie Scelzo 29.03.2012 | You'll have to do it by ear at first. I suggest practicing only in headphones for a bit…the S4 is perfectly capable of that. The transient detection is a bit weird…it shows a lot of what's going on, so if the drum hits aren't perfectly clean (i.e., coinciding with bass notes or basically anything with a sharp attack) the transient looks wider than it should. But that just means you have to pay attention to what you're doing and learn how it shows things. It's not bad at all once you get used to it. <Insert obvious claim about doing everything by ear here.> But, it is possible to beat match SSL without headphones if you're used to the way it shows transients. And it's at least as accurate as vinyl is, so……whatever. Also, you'll probably like one of the horizontal views better than the default if you're coming from traktor. There are butons to change it…I believe in the top left hand corner. IDK, I just set the one I liked and never bothered changing. If it's distracting and you want to go back to doing everything by ear, there's a setting that only shows overview waveforms…kinda like the Micro view on Traktor. |
| Glennis Cartin 29.03.2012 | Thanks guys! I'm suposed to be playing toevening , on a mate's SSL set-up. As I'm a Traktor fanboy, I have absolutly zero SSL experience, and a phase meter is a nice comfort blanket if things go wrong! (I've heard that the venue's acoustics make it hard to beatmatch)
Originally Posted by Audeo
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| Dorie Scelzo 29.03.2012 | Yes. And, it's based on detected transients, not beat grids, so once you get used to it (and combined with headphones), it's just as accurate with zero effort. |
| Venetta Cawyer 29.03.2012 | If you just looked at the Serato screen at Google Images.. you could see that it uses huge waveforms and a smaller grid in the middle to match beats. Using your analogy, I couldn't be bothered to explain this further.. But hey, just keep putting in that little extra effort to achieve things! |
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