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SL3 purchased. Why did I wait so long?
Posted on: 05.10.2013 by Lauretta Ehrhorn
Finally got round to buying a SL3 and playing last evening via SSL confirmed everything I suspected.
I've felt so stale and clinical when using Traktor recently, even with DVS. A 2 hour mix last evening with SSL was a joy. I felt like I was using a big record bag and enjoyed every second. I felt more connected to the music, time codes felt tighter, to my ears the music sounded warmer and I felt like I was playing more from my heart.
I can't explain why this is. Maybe it's just a change of software rather than any real difference. DVS shouldn't feel massively different and I guess they weren't but Serato felt more organic.
Looks like I'm converting for good. Will miss modifiers and messing with mapping but that's about it.
Advice to anyone else pondering a switch on my experiences so far would be to go for it. Early days but it's great to feel it again (again I can't explain why).
Kellie Myrum
06.10.2013
Originally Posted by Student
That's my point; if you use a Pioneer DJM800, it will sound a lot different than when you choose the P800 mixer in Traktor, which uses the same frequencies the DJM800 does. That's why they call it the P800. And that's why I don't understand why is still sounds so... different.
Why would one buy a 2k mixer if you can get exact same quality reproduction in a DJ software. Same is with low filter resonance in the mixer section. I truly hope that some updates will come when NI release new hybrid controller/mixer.
Trula Willadsen
06.10.2013
Originally Posted by SlayForMoney
that has nothing to do with sound warmth, just EQ freq/kill.
That's my point; if you use a Pioneer DJM800, it will sound a lot different than when you choose the P800 mixer in Traktor, which uses the same frequencies the DJM800 does. That's why they call it the P800. And that's why I don't understand why is still sounds so... different.
Isa Erik
06.10.2013
Originally Posted by Student
Traktor makes the sounds so cold when you mix. I don't really understand why either as they offer like 5 mixer options, all copying existing big-brand-mixers, yet the P800 still sounds way less warm than the DJM800 it's copied off...

But good to hear, enjoy
that has nothing to do with sound warmth, just EQ freq/kill.
Lauretta Ehrhorn
05.10.2013		Finally got round to buying a SL3 and playing last evening via SSL confirmed everything I suspected.
I've felt so stale and clinical when using Traktor recently, even with DVS. A 2 hour mix last evening with SSL was a joy. I felt like I was using a big record bag and enjoyed every second. I felt more connected to the music, time codes felt tighter, to my ears the music sounded warmer and I felt like I was playing more from my heart.
I can't explain why this is. Maybe it's just a change of software rather than any real difference. DVS shouldn't feel massively different and I guess they weren't but Serato felt more organic.
Looks like I'm converting for good. Will miss modifiers and messing with mapping but that's about it.
Advice to anyone else pondering a switch on my experiences so far would be to go for it. Early days but it's great to feel it again (again I can't explain why).
Kellie Myrum
06.10.2013
Originally Posted by Student
That's my point; if you use a Pioneer DJM800, it will sound a lot different than when you choose the P800 mixer in Traktor, which uses the same frequencies the DJM800 does. That's why they call it the P800. And that's why I don't understand why is still sounds so... different.
Why would one buy a 2k mixer if you can get exact same quality reproduction in a DJ software. Same is with low filter resonance in the mixer section. I truly hope that some updates will come when NI release new hybrid controller/mixer.
Trula Willadsen
06.10.2013
Originally Posted by SlayForMoney
that has nothing to do with sound warmth, just EQ freq/kill.
That's my point; if you use a Pioneer DJM800, it will sound a lot different than when you choose the P800 mixer in Traktor, which uses the same frequencies the DJM800 does. That's why they call it the P800. And that's why I don't understand why is still sounds so... different.
Isa Erik
06.10.2013
Originally Posted by Student
Traktor makes the sounds so cold when you mix. I don't really understand why either as they offer like 5 mixer options, all copying existing big-brand-mixers, yet the P800 still sounds way less warm than the DJM800 it's copied off...

But good to hear, enjoy
that has nothing to do with sound warmth, just EQ freq/kill.
Vito Chesnut
06.10.2013		gah.. that sucks too, because I love being able to map echo freeze, beatmasher, and other effects. Serato DJ requires that extra midi.. and I am still not even sure if they will support the Denon 1700, and I personally cant afford a $2000+ mixer AND CDJs...


Guess I will just have to go with the 3900's, 1700, and just use Engine with external HD..
Lauretta Ehrhorn
06.10.2013		Definite difference in warmth. I've used an Audio 6 and an Echo Audiofire with Traktor. I'm sure it's something to do with the program.
Vito Chesnut
05.10.2013		Yeah, i can definitely hear a difference in tracks played on both programs, when running through the VCI 400, but it is also limited to 48khz, and wonder if stepping up to say, a denon 1700 with 96khz and 32 bit DAC, would help traktor or make the difference that much more obvious.
Trula Willadsen
05.10.2013		Traktor makes the sounds so cold when you mix. I don't really understand why either as they offer like 5 mixer options, all copying existing big-brand-mixers, yet the P800 still sounds way less warm than the DJM800 it's copied off...

But good to hear, enjoy
Vito Chesnut
05.10.2013		I wonder if the sound quality and integration have anything to do with your Traktor interface. Were you using Audio 6 or similar? Thinking about adding timecode soon, and on the fence as to which one to push towards. I own both products, but the mixer and cdjs will be the big question.

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