Traktor Pro and VCI-100 SE any good?!

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Traktor Pro and VCI-100 SE any good?!
Posted on: 16.10.2008 by Daniel McCoy
Is the VCI-100 SE still a good controller or can I throw it to the bin if I want to use Traktor Pro?! Some functions in Traktor Pro look similar to special feature of the SE (e.g. Hi/Lo Pass Filter).
andy lorenzo
19.10.2008
Originally Posted by kidfromkibbly
Personally I'm believeing of investing in the Akai MPD24 in the near future for when I get Traktor Pro. It has the pads to cue juggle or play with loops and the extra knobs for using with the extended effects that will be available. This will free up some more controls on my VCI to use how I see fit.
I had the akai mpd16 and it was a evening mare to use. The mapping software crashed my computer constantly and it would forget its settings often, forcing me to reload my preferences. I also remember it conflicting with other controllers I was trying to use at the same time. Maybe akai has improved the drivers and software since then, but I'd check into it before you dump the money!
Roland Raes
19.10.2008
Originally Posted by Kama
Ean - thanks again for all the hard work. What do you believe about picking a second controller to work along with the vci-100se for the effects in Traktor Pro. Maybe a korg nanoKONTROL or Kenton Killamix mini (a bit pricey.) It seems if the djtt community could decide on a se companion it would be great for all concerned.
Thats a great idea Kama.
Trần Trung
16.10.2008
Originally Posted by yosemite
Hi,

I'm not asking for a solution or anything.

Ean mentioned he had the opportunity to spend time with the NI guys and therefore I imagined he might has asked himself the very same question.

Besides that I've just spend a considerable amount of money for the SE and would be more than happy if I could use it with Traktor Pro too.
Trust Me yosemite, with the new SE overlays and firmware upgrades DJTT is getting ready to sell, I know they will come out with mapping files for the buttons, and knobs. So maybe just maybe until they come out with them, I will stick with Traktor 3. You could purchase your license for Traktor Pro and when the new mapping files are available then you can use it, or buy it then its up to you. If you want to be one of the Pioneers that create the mapping files and explain how to do it, then go head and buy it and get to creating and testing out. I believe Traktor Pro will be very reliable like its counter-part when everything is set up right and we have a fully understanding of the new software. I myself will remain with Traktor 3 until mapping files have been created, or I myself might jump in the mapping creation seat if I have some time on my hands. Either way good luck to the folks that are venturing in to the new software and Make us proud!!
robert chanda
16.10.2008
Originally Posted by yosemite
Is the VCI-100 SE still a good controller or can I throw it to the bin if I want to use Traktor Pro?! Some functions in Traktor Pro look similar to special feature of the SE (e.g. Hi/Lo Pass Filter).
Too early to tell, but more knobs and buttons is always a good thing. Will it map immediately 1-to-1? No. Did the VCI-100 ever map 1-to-1 to Traktor? Nope.

Welcome to the cutting edge of digital DJing! The software was announced like 5 hours ago and you're asking for a predigested solution addressing your specific needs? Give us a moment, man! I'm still reading through the manual.
Daniel McCoy
16.10.2008
Is the VCI-100 SE still a good controller or can I throw it to the bin if I want to use Traktor Pro?! Some functions in Traktor Pro look similar to special feature of the SE (e.g. Hi/Lo Pass Filter).
DJ Strutzip
20.10.2008
I traded in my MPD24 for a TriggerFinger because the rotary encoders are not rotary encoders at all! instead of sending incremental data, they maintain a position which is displayed on the screen, only not all the time! so what you get is a bunch of knobs (not encoders) which you can't visually see what value they are sitting at.

Though I have the TriggerFinger, half the knobs are not in use, half are for gain, which would work better as an encoder on a focus deck. I use the sliders for key control which I would rather use a 2 octave keyboard for (any users who know how to hack this?).

I must say, I recommend the PadKontrol because of the fact it has lights. Lights on pads can be very beneficial.

S.
samir abu-sharar
20.10.2008
As many users.. I have the M-Audio Trigger Finger for the same purposes (Cue/Loops/Beat Juggling) so far no problems at all... except when I upgraded to Vista... It worked the first two weeks.. Updated to SP1 and it failed to work due to drivers.

Hopefully the drivers will come out (anytime).
andy lorenzo
19.10.2008
Originally Posted by kidfromkibbly
Personally I'm believeing of investing in the Akai MPD24 in the near future for when I get Traktor Pro. It has the pads to cue juggle or play with loops and the extra knobs for using with the extended effects that will be available. This will free up some more controls on my VCI to use how I see fit.
I had the akai mpd16 and it was a evening mare to use. The mapping software crashed my computer constantly and it would forget its settings often, forcing me to reload my preferences. I also remember it conflicting with other controllers I was trying to use at the same time. Maybe akai has improved the drivers and software since then, but I'd check into it before you dump the money!
Dj Gjaka
19.10.2008
Personally I'm believeing of investing in the Akai MPD24 in the near future for when I get Traktor Pro. It has the pads to cue juggle or play with loops and the extra knobs for using with the extended effects that will be available. This will free up some more controls on my VCI to use how I see fit.
Roland Raes
19.10.2008
Originally Posted by Kama
Ean - thanks again for all the hard work. What do you believe about picking a second controller to work along with the vci-100se for the effects in Traktor Pro. Maybe a korg nanoKONTROL or Kenton Killamix mini (a bit pricey.) It seems if the djtt community could decide on a se companion it would be great for all concerned.
Thats a great idea Kama.
Thomas Fone
17.10.2008
Ean - thanks again for all the hard work. What do you believe about picking a second controller to work along with the vci-100se for the effects in Traktor Pro. Maybe a korg nanoKONTROL or Kenton Killamix mini (a bit pricey.) It seems if the djtt community could decide on a se companion it would be great for all concerned.
Cristian Carmona
17.10.2008
Can wait for the demo to come out so I can start mapping the midi. Im all for making a custom tks for the SE
samir abu-sharar
17.10.2008
Ean:

So there is a possibility for "new" future layouts for the VCI-100 to be used with Traktor Pro?

17.10.2008
yes the FX section will need some re-working but you can set up traktor to behave like the vci-100se where you have bank control over specific effects. the cool thing is that now you can decide which effects go into those slots so the delay slot loads the delay you specifically want. (there are several)
Cristian Carmona
18.10.2008
Ean I was wondering about the fx's being that we have 3 options A, B, C plus 4 trigger buttons & knobs (3x4 =21) which pro has 21 fx's, Im going to say atleast for me the hell with deck C fx's.

hmmm...Im going to have a midi hell-o-ween! or more like a dia de los muertos (day of the dead nov 1)

18.10.2008
Hey Guys, the VCi-100SE's will work perfectly with Traktor PRo. There may be a few small changes to the work flow but generally speaking everything will be re-mapped to the new interface and match the labels.

There are still several "special" aspects of the firmware that will be even more applicable in traktor pro.
Adil Laresh
17.10.2008
ean and co have supported us this far there is no reason why new tks files wouldnt be created.. we just need to be patient.. I offer my full support to help out with anything..

Ean any chance you can speak to NI about hooking me up as a beta tester??
Ryan Konarski
17.10.2008
they going to realease tks files for the firmware 1.2 VCI when the software come out but they not going to send multi midi data like the firmware 1.3 ...........dont worry guys im sure ean will work something out for the 1.3 firware

and DJ BIGQ they realeasing the TKS files for the new sofware on the same day they going to be similar to traktor 3 firmware 1.2 if u want something more crazy u can always get created and start mapping your self
Trần Trung
16.10.2008
Originally Posted by yosemite
Hi,

I'm not asking for a solution or anything.

Ean mentioned he had the opportunity to spend time with the NI guys and therefore I imagined he might has asked himself the very same question.

Besides that I've just spend a considerable amount of money for the SE and would be more than happy if I could use it with Traktor Pro too.
Trust Me yosemite, with the new SE overlays and firmware upgrades DJTT is getting ready to sell, I know they will come out with mapping files for the buttons, and knobs. So maybe just maybe until they come out with them, I will stick with Traktor 3. You could purchase your license for Traktor Pro and when the new mapping files are available then you can use it, or buy it then its up to you. If you want to be one of the Pioneers that create the mapping files and explain how to do it, then go head and buy it and get to creating and testing out. I believe Traktor Pro will be very reliable like its counter-part when everything is set up right and we have a fully understanding of the new software. I myself will remain with Traktor 3 until mapping files have been created, or I myself might jump in the mapping creation seat if I have some time on my hands. Either way good luck to the folks that are venturing in to the new software and Make us proud!!
Daniel McCoy
16.10.2008
Hi,

I'm not asking for a solution or anything.

Ean mentioned he had the opportunity to spend time with the NI guys and therefore I imagined he might has asked himself the very same question.

Besides that I've just spend a considerable amount of money for the SE and would be more than happy if I could use it with Traktor Pro too.
robert chanda
16.10.2008
Originally Posted by yosemite
Is the VCI-100 SE still a good controller or can I throw it to the bin if I want to use Traktor Pro?! Some functions in Traktor Pro look similar to special feature of the SE (e.g. Hi/Lo Pass Filter).
Too early to tell, but more knobs and buttons is always a good thing. Will it map immediately 1-to-1? No. Did the VCI-100 ever map 1-to-1 to Traktor? Nope.

Welcome to the cutting edge of digital DJing! The software was announced like 5 hours ago and you're asking for a predigested solution addressing your specific needs? Give us a moment, man! I'm still reading through the manual.

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