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Loops on tsi 1.6 Posted on: 26.02.2009 by Deann Brabander I've been messing around with traktor pro and tsi 1.6 on the vci100se..today but i cant seem to figure out how to change the loop lengths... everything works perfectly so far, but when i click loop it goes to 4 beat loops. I want to figure out how to get down to 1 or even a half when i click loops.
Reece Murray 02.03.2009	Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole If you were pressing a loop selection button on the screen with a mouse it would activate the loop length that is highlighted. So why is it different when you do it on your controller. ie ... you use loop lengthen / shorten to highlight the required loop length then use the loop on off button, but this makes it jump to 4 beat loop? Hope this makes sense. If you are using Ean's tsi, the reason is that there are commands attached to the loop on/off buttons that reset the loop length to 4 bars. If you want to change this, you can do it, but remember if you do that, each new loop you set will be the last length you selected. If you want to set a custom length each time, use the loop in/out method.
donavan djarkasi 27.02.2009	Originally Posted by evan_c Great idea. I'm not sure what the rest of ur answer means but is there a way to set let's say the loop button to loop in and out?? Basicly you need map the one button to do these things: First press: 1st mapping: Set Loop in (while modifier x value is y) 2nd mapping: Set modifier x value to z Second press of the same button: 1st mapping: Set Loop out (while modifier x value is z) 2nd mapping: Set modifier x value to y Now the button does two things depending of the one modifier value. I didn't check anything from tpro for that explanation so it's just the principle how it should work. If the mapping can't be done in tpro, NI really has a lot of work ahead. But I trust Zac Kyoti when he says the modifiers are capable of this.
DJ Pablo 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by evan_c sweet thanks that is what i was looking for. Is there anyway to have the set the loops length in traktor and have it to conform to your VCI loop function?? I don't understand the question. (still improving my english)
DJ Pablo 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by evan_c My loops lengthing works, my question is how do i get to choose what loop length comes up with i press the loop button I try selecting different loop lengths on the software for example, if i have a 1beat loop set up on my software and i press loop on the vci it goes back to 4 beat.. I know i can shorten it, but i want to know if there is a way to set a preset or soemthing so when i press loop it goes to whatever i want it too not just 4 beats The answer can be found on the community , but look at the picture, in the buttons option section you can set the value of the loop lenght.
casey rascal 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by evan_c My loops lengthing works, my question is how do i get to choose what loop length comes up with i press the loop button I understand your question, I just dont know the answer. BTW, I cannot imagine it being a good idea to have a default loop lenght of just 1 beat. It would make it very hard to engage a "normal" longer loop, without it jittering.
Rhoda Martonik 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by Flaekiface IMO, no that is not right. I am pretty shure that YOU (MisterMM) is right and the Cra1g has misunderstood. --> The tsi should work very OK with fw1.2. I was under the impression that certain things would work but others would work differently if at all. ie- certain things you couldn't do like FADER FX and loop lengthening with 1.2 firmware. If im incorrect i do apologize.
casey rascal 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole Is that right?? i thought there were only a couple of bugs that stopped them operating the same now as long as you are using pro and these were just to do with freeze and a buggy beatmasher button or something. Thought all looping functionality worked the same now? G IMO, no that is not right. I am pretty shure that YOU (MisterMM) is right and the Cra1g has misunderstood. --> The tsi should work very OK with fw1.2.
Doug Bieling 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by CRA1G If you havnt got the 1.3 firmware then it will be different. Try mapping your vci to how you want it to work. You will be limited tho as the 1.2 firmware will not behave like an vci100 se Is that right?? i thought there were only a couple of bugs that stopped them operating the same now as long as you are using pro and these were just to do with freeze and a buggy beatmasher button or something. Thought all looping functionality worked the same now? G
Reece Murray 02.03.2009	Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole If you were pressing a loop selection button on the screen with a mouse it would activate the loop length that is highlighted. So why is it different when you do it on your controller. ie ... you use loop lengthen / shorten to highlight the required loop length then use the loop on off button, but this makes it jump to 4 beat loop? Hope this makes sense. If you are using Ean's tsi, the reason is that there are commands attached to the loop on/off buttons that reset the loop length to 4 bars. If you want to change this, you can do it, but remember if you do that, each new loop you set will be the last length you selected. If you want to set a custom length each time, use the loop in/out method.
Deann Brabander 02.03.2009	Yeah.. it goes If i select the loop length before i want to engage a loop then i press engage loop on teh controller i jumps to a 4 beat loop
Doug Bieling 02.03.2009	Sorry to dig this one back up but i am confused and don't understand why this can't be done. If you were pressing a loop selection button on the screen with a mouse it would activate the loop length that is highlighted. So why is it different when you do it on your controller. ie ... you use loop lengthen / shorten to highlight the required loop length then use the loop on off button, but this makes it jump to 4 beat loop? Hope this makes sense. Gav
Deann Brabander 28.02.2009	ok, ill try it out thanks!
donavan djarkasi 27.02.2009	Originally Posted by evan_c Great idea. I'm not sure what the rest of ur answer means but is there a way to set let's say the loop button to loop in and out?? Basicly you need map the one button to do these things: First press: 1st mapping: Set Loop in (while modifier x value is y) 2nd mapping: Set modifier x value to z Second press of the same button: 1st mapping: Set Loop out (while modifier x value is z) 2nd mapping: Set modifier x value to y Now the button does two things depending of the one modifier value. I didn't check anything from tpro for that explanation so it's just the principle how it should work. If the mapping can't be done in tpro, NI really has a lot of work ahead. But I trust Zac Kyoti when he says the modifiers are capable of this.
Deann Brabander 27.02.2009	Great idea. I'm not sure what the rest of ur answer means but is there a way to set let's say the loop button to loop in and out??
Reece Murray 27.02.2009	An easy way to set any custom loop length from the VCI-100 is to program buttons to set a loop in and out point, for the focused deck. If you don't know what this means, the manual is a good place to start. I like this method, because it frees you up to loop whatever tiny bit, long bit, fits the moment. Two buttons for all loops. Hell, it can be done on one button with a modifier!
Deann Brabander 26.02.2009	Ill rephrase that. when using traktor you have the loop option of setting the length to 1/32, 1/16, 1/4, 1/2, 1, etc. Is there a way I can click the loop length on traktor so it will work when i use the loop function on the VCI? Hope thats better.
DJ Pablo 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by evan_c sweet thanks that is what i was looking for. Is there anyway to have the set the loops length in traktor and have it to conform to your VCI loop function?? I don't understand the question. (still improving my english)
Deann Brabander 26.02.2009	sweet thanks that is what i was looking for. Is there anyway to have the set the loops length in traktor and have it to conform to your VCI loop function??
Julianna Riecken 26.02.2009	My issue is no longer applicable it was just me being thick! Apologies
DJ Pablo 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by evan_c My loops lengthing works, my question is how do i get to choose what loop length comes up with i press the loop button I try selecting different loop lengths on the software for example, if i have a 1beat loop set up on my software and i press loop on the vci it goes back to 4 beat.. I know i can shorten it, but i want to know if there is a way to set a preset or soemthing so when i press loop it goes to whatever i want it too not just 4 beats The answer can be found on the community , but look at the picture, in the buttons option section you can set the value of the loop lenght.
casey rascal 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by evan_c My loops lengthing works, my question is how do i get to choose what loop length comes up with i press the loop button I understand your question, I just dont know the answer. BTW, I cannot imagine it being a good idea to have a default loop lenght of just 1 beat. It would make it very hard to engage a "normal" longer loop, without it jittering.
Deann Brabander 27.02.2009	My loops lengthing works, my question is how do i get to choose what loop length comes up with i press the loop button I try selecting different loop lengths on the software for example, if i have a 1beat loop set up on my software and i press loop on the vci it goes back to 4 beat.. I know i can shorten it, but i want to know if there is a way to set a preset or soemthing so when i press loop it goes to whatever i want it too not just 4 beats
Claud Balkum 26.02.2009	I have 1.2 and everything work except freeze.
Rhoda Martonik 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by Flaekiface IMO, no that is not right. I am pretty shure that YOU (MisterMM) is right and the Cra1g has misunderstood. --> The tsi should work very OK with fw1.2. I was under the impression that certain things would work but others would work differently if at all. ie- certain things you couldn't do like FADER FX and loop lengthening with 1.2 firmware. If im incorrect i do apologize.
Julianna Riecken 26.02.2009	I just cant shorten or lengthen the loops, that seems to be my only issue with the TSI. Oh and when I import the file it only lets me select Midi Mapping nothing else is selectable :S
casey rascal 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole Is that right?? i thought there were only a couple of bugs that stopped them operating the same now as long as you are using pro and these were just to do with freeze and a buggy beatmasher button or something. Thought all looping functionality worked the same now? G IMO, no that is not right. I am pretty shure that YOU (MisterMM) is right and the Cra1g has misunderstood. --> The tsi should work very OK with fw1.2.
Doug Bieling 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by CRA1G If you havnt got the 1.3 firmware then it will be different. Try mapping your vci to how you want it to work. You will be limited tho as the 1.2 firmware will not behave like an vci100 se Is that right?? i thought there were only a couple of bugs that stopped them operating the same now as long as you are using pro and these were just to do with freeze and a buggy beatmasher button or something. Thought all looping functionality worked the same now? G
Julianna Riecken 26.02.2009	Looks like im waiting for the firmware upgrade kits to be back in stock then... Thanks
Rhoda Martonik 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by Lecko Oh, my problem is different then.. I know how to do it, it just does not work as shown If you havnt got the 1.3 firmware then it will be different. Try mapping your vci to how you want it to work. You will be limited tho as the 1.2 firmware will not behave like an vci100 se
Julianna Riecken 26.02.2009	Oh, my problem is different then.. I know how to do it, it just does not work as shown
Rhoda Martonik 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by Flaekiface You beat me to it Great minds believe alike
casey rascal 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by CRA1G Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv_vWWHqWWM You beat me to it
casey rascal 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by gfocus Could you maybe stop opening up a new thread for every problem that comes your way. It's just barely possible to track for anyone the state of things at your side. Also, spend a little more time with your VCI + TPro instead of posting like a madman. This might help too. +1 The question to your answer can be found very easy on this site. I would recoment you do some research on how to use the vci-100se. To get you startet, have alook at this film. Here you will also find the answer to your qustion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv_vWWHqWWM
Rhoda Martonik 26.02.2009	Originally Posted by evan_c I've been messing around with traktor pro and tsi 1.6 on the vci100se..today but i cant seem to figure out how to change the loop lengths... everything works perfectly so far, but when i click loop it goes to 4 beat loops. I want to figure out how to get down to 1 or even a half when i click loops. Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv_vWWHqWWM
Julianna Riecken 26.02.2009	Ive got the same problem
Sasha Alexander 26.02.2009	Could you maybe stop opening up a new thread for every problem that comes your way. It's just barely possible to track for anyone the state of things at your side. Also, spend a little more time with your VCI + TPro instead of posting like a madman. This might help too.

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