Pushing sync does not automatically change master deck?
Pushing sync does not automatically change master deck? Posted on: 06.08.2009 by Dominga Malong Hey guys,I formatted my computer last week and reinstalled Traktor Pro and updated it to the latest version. I notice they implemented that "Waiting" status for sync, where the button is half filled. Let's assume you have two unsynced tracks on decks A and B, with A as master and B as slave. With the older version of Traktor, you could push the sync button on A (not the sync mode button) and it would: 1) Set A as slave 2) Set B as master 3) Sync A to B With this version, pushing sync does the following: 1) Set A as both master and waiting 2) Not set B to master 3) Not sync anything My Deck Master is set to auto, so that isn't the problem. My question is, aside from downgrading, is there any way to get the old style sync function, where pushing sync automatically switched the master to another live deck? I've searched the community s but didn't find anything aside from questions on the waiting status. | |
| Dominga Malong 06.08.2009 | Hey guys, I formatted my computer last week and reinstalled Traktor Pro and updated it to the latest version. I notice they implemented that "Waiting" status for sync, where the button is half filled. Let's assume you have two unsynced tracks on decks A and B, with A as master and B as slave. With the older version of Traktor, you could push the sync button on A (not the sync mode button) and it would: 1) Set A as slave 2) Set B as master 3) Sync A to B With this version, pushing sync does the following: 1) Set A as both master and waiting 2) Not set B to master 3) Not sync anything My Deck Master is set to auto, so that isn't the problem. My question is, aside from downgrading, is there any way to get the old style sync function, where pushing sync automatically switched the master to another live deck? I've searched the community s but didn't find anything aside from questions on the waiting status. |
| Dominga Malong 07.08.2009 | Hey Ean, I'm working with songs are fixed at around 128 BPM, beatgridded and everything (if I turn on the Traktor Pro metronome, it's all spot on). The other thing is, my problem isn't with sync hold (which admittedly also doesn't find a new master deck when sync hold is engaged on the current master deck). My problem isn't with sync as both sync hold and the one-time sync lights up the sync button (which becomes fully lit if it's on a non-master deck, half-lit if on a master deck). It's that doing so doesn't set the other decks to master. Let me illustrate the problem in a real world example: Deck A is master playing at 128 BPM. Deck B is a synced slave playing at 128 BPM. Deck B's native BPM is 134 BPM, and B is looped on the first 16 beats, waiting for Deck A to end so it can take over. The song on Deck A (master) is about to end in 30 seconds. I want Deck B to become master, and for the BPM to steadily rise until its 134 native BPM. What I'm used to is that hitting sync hold on Deck A would automatically set Deck B to master. Then I can adjust the pitch faders on B until I reach 134 BPM, while keeping the beats of both A and B synced. Right now, I have to counter-intuitively treat the song that is about to end (deck A) as the master, while the song that has just started and defines the master BPM (deck B) as the slave. Unless I reach for my touch pad and manually select master on B. Anyway, I'll give this another day to see if there's something I missed, and then uninstall and revert to an older version of Traktor Pro that doesn't have this waiting-sync-on-the-master-track "feature". |
| 07.08.2009 | the problem ( I believe) is that both tracks dont have beatgrids. Traktor wont let you engage SYNC hold without beatgrids on both tracks in the new version. |
| Leota Saniuk 06.08.2009 | what i have in my setup is a toggle from auto mode to internal midi clock with all decks set to slave, which is what i use when i mix a lot of electro where i usually only make gradual pitch changes. when i am in internal midi clock mode the pitch faders also adjust the internal midi clock. when i switch back to auto, the pitch faders fall back to standard mode and the longest playing deck becomes master automatically, so i make sure that when i switch back into auto i am only running one deck, usually when i prepare switching to more rockish/hip-hop tracks. |
| Vernon Positano 06.08.2009 | Gonna have to check this out myself tomorrow and will report back! |
| Dominga Malong 06.08.2009 | Yeah, before the computer format with the old version, Auto Master selected a new master deck every time I pushed sync on an existing master. All the more reason I'm confused why it doesn't work (or if it's some silly setting I didn't check). I checked the manual before coming here too. I believe the process goes like this: Working: Can't sync to self, thus change master and engage sync to new master. Song is synced. Not working: Can't sync to self, thus don't engage sync until new master is manually picked. Song is not synced. You guys get this behaviour right? Does this mean you all had to map a button to manually switch master decks? |
| Vernon Positano 06.08.2009 | Isn't this the same as just setting deck master to auto at the top ? |
| Dominga Malong 07.08.2009 | Yeah, while brushing my teeth I realize it might be possible to give the sync button the function of setting all other decks to master. But with 3 decks that are selected by modifiers, I'd need to map like what, 12 new bindings? But I'm not crazy right? Didn't hitting sync automatically transfer master to another playing deck? I'm using the same MIDI bindings. |
| Vernon Positano 06.08.2009 | Indeed, you could have a modifier turned on and off when then play button is pressed on the other deck, but that still wouldn't help when the track naturally runs out. |
| Leota Saniuk 06.08.2009 | If you are in auto mode, then the master only switches to the longest running deck as soon as the current master is stopped. You could setup your MIDI programming to set a specific deck as master when you hit a given sync button, but there is no gurantee that this deck will be playing at the time. You could try to handle that with some indepth modifier magic to some degree. |
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