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VCI Jog Lag?
Posted on: 03.06.2010 by Johnie Lytton
Hello all,

My vci has a slight lag problem with the left jog wheel. The right wheel works just fine. In fact, it came this way out of the box, however I figured there would be a ''break in'' period but apparently not. The right wheel has perfect response when I attempt to scratch but the left wheel feels a bit sluggish. I have messed around with the controls in the back, but these knobs are for the on and off sensitivity of the plates. Is there a way to adjust the ''speed'' of the wheel? I have already toghtened all of the screws (but not too tight!), lubricated the contacts on the underside of the wheels with conductive carbon grease (which really helps with the feel of the physical wheel, but not the response), I have tried this on windows os, and mac, with the latest traktor...and I have tried several tsi's. I doubt it's a software problem at this point. Does anyone have this problem as well? If so, how did you fix it?
Leeanna Ayla
15.06.2010
Originally Posted by RT31784
Well I ordered my VCi in April of this year and it has written in marker on the back ''1.3'' so that should be the current FW version and that is the firmware I am having an issue with :/
Did you order from the DJTT store? AFIK that's the only place you can get the VCI with the 1.3 firmware already installed.
Genesis Cayetano
14.06.2010
Originally Posted by RT31784
When I scratch with a steady back and forth motion on the wheel, staying within the same quadrant of the wheel, it will scratch but the ''needle'' in traktor will sometimes go a bit forward or a bit backwards...and sometimes more than just a bit! Maybe I am wrong, but as long as the red light is on (indicating full contact to the jog) and I am scratching over the same area on my vci, it should be playing the same (for example) 3 seconds of audio back and forth right? Sorry if this sounds stupid...I just want to make sure I can get this working properly cause it is bugging me pretty bad.

I have the same problem with my new VCI-100. I've already installed the latest version of Traktor pro on my Mac. Any advice would be helpful
Kelsey Maylone
03.06.2010
Originally Posted by RT31784
Hello all,

My vci has a slight lag problem with the left jog wheel. The right wheel works just fine. In fact, it came this way out of the box, however I figured there would be a ''break in'' period but apparently not. The right wheel has perfect response when I attempt to scratch but the left wheel feels a bit sluggish. I have messed around with the controls in the back, but these knobs are for the on and off sensitivity of the plates. Is there a way to adjust the ''speed'' of the wheel? I have already toghtened all of the screws (but not too tight!), lubricated the contacts on the underside of the wheels with conductive carbon grease (which really helps with the feel of the physical wheel, but not the response), I have tried this on windows os, and mac, with the latest traktor...and I have tried several tsi's. I doubt it's a software problem at this point. Does anyone have this problem as well? If so, how did you fix it?
You mean that there is a hardware issue?I had also the same problem when i bought it also with left jog.I found an old article here and i fixed this with lubricant spray.
Johnie Lytton
03.06.2010		Hello all,

My vci has a slight lag problem with the left jog wheel. The right wheel works just fine. In fact, it came this way out of the box, however I figured there would be a ''break in'' period but apparently not. The right wheel has perfect response when I attempt to scratch but the left wheel feels a bit sluggish. I have messed around with the controls in the back, but these knobs are for the on and off sensitivity of the plates. Is there a way to adjust the ''speed'' of the wheel? I have already toghtened all of the screws (but not too tight!), lubricated the contacts on the underside of the wheels with conductive carbon grease (which really helps with the feel of the physical wheel, but not the response), I have tried this on windows os, and mac, with the latest traktor...and I have tried several tsi's. I doubt it's a software problem at this point. Does anyone have this problem as well? If so, how did you fix it?
Genesis Cayetano
16.06.2010		At first I had a problem with the left and right jog then I replaced the USB cable and now I've only a right jog with the lag issue.
Johnie Lytton
15.06.2010		Of course I got it from DJTT
Leeanna Ayla
15.06.2010
Originally Posted by RT31784
Well I ordered my VCi in April of this year and it has written in marker on the back ''1.3'' so that should be the current FW version and that is the firmware I am having an issue with :/
Did you order from the DJTT store? AFIK that's the only place you can get the VCI with the 1.3 firmware already installed.
Genesis Cayetano
15.06.2010		I've bought mine yesterday, no writing on the back of the unit. So maybe mine has the old firmware on it.
Johnie Lytton
15.06.2010		Well I ordered my VCi in April of this year and it has written in marker on the back ''1.3'' so that should be the current FW version and that is the firmware I am having an issue with :/
Genesis Cayetano
15.06.2010		Maybe the firmware update could solve this problem? Have you tried that. I would like order the firmware upgrade an this site. But if it isn't the solution it's wasted money.
Johnie Lytton
14.06.2010		This seems to be an all too common problem with these units. I _still_ have not found a fix for this and I have tried EVERYTHING under the sun. The only thing that came close to working, was modifying the scratch acceleration and sensitivity on the jogwheel within the tsi (I never could find a sweet spot...and the tsi is identical on the left and right jog values, so I believe this is a hardware issue), but this created a whole new set of quirks I did not want to deal with. I did spend a significant amount of money on this unit, and as always, I figured there would have to be some tweaking, but if this cannot get fixed eventually I'll have to say the vci is a bust. I can do everything I can do on the VCI with my padKONTROL...the main reason I got the VCI was to scratch, and now I can't even do that..lol. I suppose at least I can scratch on the right jogwheel...but the left....there is no hope! I am a very positive person, and for me to be 'down' on this particular subject means that I am at my wit's end...I really have no fix for this, sorry to everyone else out there that has the problem too. All I can ask is that if someone finds a fix, please share it and I will do the same to inform everybody if I ever find one!
Genesis Cayetano
14.06.2010
Originally Posted by RT31784
When I scratch with a steady back and forth motion on the wheel, staying within the same quadrant of the wheel, it will scratch but the ''needle'' in traktor will sometimes go a bit forward or a bit backwards...and sometimes more than just a bit! Maybe I am wrong, but as long as the red light is on (indicating full contact to the jog) and I am scratching over the same area on my vci, it should be playing the same (for example) 3 seconds of audio back and forth right? Sorry if this sounds stupid...I just want to make sure I can get this working properly cause it is bugging me pretty bad.

I have the same problem with my new VCI-100. I've already installed the latest version of Traktor pro on my Mac. Any advice would be helpful
Elnora Wisegarver
05.06.2010		This happened to me after i put on a djtt overlay . I noticed it the other day i had a little lag but it comes and goes .Does ths mean I need to crease it all up .
Johnie Lytton
03.06.2010		Oh btw, I changed the left side jog wheel in scratch mode to around 6 for rotary sensitivity and left the acceleration at 0 ..just in case this info might help
Johnie Lytton
03.06.2010		Thank you everyone...I tried the tsi fix again, and the sensitivity section of the scratch command seems to fix the wheel up very nice however it created a new problem (or an old problem, but I could never notice it due to a laggy jog wheel) When I scratch with a steady back and forth motion on the wheel, staying within the same quadrant of the wheel, it will scratch but the ''needle'' in traktor will sometimes go a bit forward or a bit backwards...and sometimes more than just a bit! Maybe I am wrong, but as long as the red light is on (indicating full contact to the jog) and I am scratching over the same area on my vci, it should be playing the same (for example) 3 seconds of audio back and forth right? Sorry if this sounds stupid...I just want to make sure I can get this working properly cause it is bugging me pretty bad.

Also,

If anybody needs some of that grease for their vci, just shoot me a pm. I have a huge tube of this stuff and I will never use all of it, so I will mail a few dabs (this is all you need, and should last for a few applications) to anyone who needs it. Just pay postage which shouldn't be much. It is industrial grade carbon enriched silicone that also happens to be electrically conductive...perfect for what a vci owner would need it for!
Julissa Serrone
03.06.2010		dude you've tried everything I would. Yeah clean the encoder, and lastly check your mapping for each jog wheel. Believe it will be under the command scratch. Check what your acceleration is. I believe for mine I have them at 3 and 6.
Johnie Lytton
04.06.2010		I have already lubricated the contacts in the back behind the jogs...this is very odd. The only thing I haven't done yet that has been suggested, is clean the optical encoder. This shouldn't need cleaning straight from the factory though should it? Anyhow...I will try this toevening , and post my results. Thanks again everyone, you all have been super helpful these past few months and I appreciate it. If anybody else knows of any fixes for this issue, please share.
Leeanna Ayla
03.06.2010		Try this.

http://www.djranking s.com/2008/01/0...-on-a-vci-100/

My right wheel's been stiff since I got my VCI-100. Just waiting for the motivation to do this.
Kelsey Maylone
03.06.2010
Originally Posted by RT31784
Hello all,

My vci has a slight lag problem with the left jog wheel. The right wheel works just fine. In fact, it came this way out of the box, however I figured there would be a ''break in'' period but apparently not. The right wheel has perfect response when I attempt to scratch but the left wheel feels a bit sluggish. I have messed around with the controls in the back, but these knobs are for the on and off sensitivity of the plates. Is there a way to adjust the ''speed'' of the wheel? I have already toghtened all of the screws (but not too tight!), lubricated the contacts on the underside of the wheels with conductive carbon grease (which really helps with the feel of the physical wheel, but not the response), I have tried this on windows os, and mac, with the latest traktor...and I have tried several tsi's. I doubt it's a software problem at this point. Does anyone have this problem as well? If so, how did you fix it?
You mean that there is a hardware issue?I had also the same problem when i bought it also with left jog.I found an old article here and i fixed this with lubricant spray.

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