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skrillex going down the "burial-road" Posted on: 03.01.2013 by Matt Kane hm...not hating on skrillex, but this one doesn
Lela Umanskaya 06.01.2013	Originally Posted by ad357 People don't seem to get it. The complaint isn't Skrillex "changing direction", it's Skrillex blatantly ripping off a lesser known artist. It seems that anyone who likes Skrillex, or likes this new tune, completely ignores that point. 23537.jpg I've listened to the EP, can't quite decide how I feel about it.
Kristofer Krauel 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by blackavenger It's obvious that we are going to have to agree to disagree. Thats cool. Its ok to disagree. Doesnt mean I hate you. :-) In truth people should take a lesson from you. I believe you handled that REALLY well!! :-) Ive never listened to future garage before. Ive just done a search and it sounds interesting. Nice one for the introduction!!
Kristofer Krauel 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by blackavenger Why do I need to relax? Do you love underground Future Garage? If so, would you like it if it were compromised in such a way so that it appealed to the lowest common denominator? No, I don't want masses of idiots believeing that Skrillex invented UKGarage. I don't want thousands of Skrillex wannabes copying him, then adding shitty Pop Vocals, Electro-House Stabs, and Mid-Range Bass to it. Kats like Skrillex, Excision, and the like, need to stay the frak away from UKGarage. They should all just produce Electro-House....hell, that's what their Dubstep started sounding like anyway. How is this going to affect your "scene" though? It would just spawn a new subgenre of future garage and new artists. Your super cool existing future garage artists will still exist and will still perform at various club evening s just like they do now. Your worlds will co-exist side by side. Hell, you purists can one day get together an reminisce about how "they dont make future garage like they used to". Fuck the worst that could happen here is that some of the fans of this new future garage give your evening s a chance and they actually get to like it! Get off your high horse dude. You dont own that genre that you are so protective of! Embrace it. Dont feel threatened by it.
Benjamin Sieh 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by blackavenger Why do I need to relax? Do you love underground Future Garage? If so, would you like it if it were compromised in such a way so that it appealed to the lowest common denominator? No, I don't want masses of idiots believeing that Skrillex invented UKGarage. I don't want thousands of Skrillex wannabes copying him, then adding shitty Pop Vocals, Electro-House Stabs, and Mid-Range Bass to it. Kats like Skrillex, Excision, and the like, need to stay the frak away from UKGarage. They should all just produce Electro-House....hell, that's what their Dubstep started sounding like anyway. Looks like someone is butt hurt over something they have have no control over. Relax an look at the bright side of things. On another note yes dubstep is starting to sound a lot like electro house
Shayne Kohtz 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by blackavenger They should all just produce Electro-House....hell, that's what their Dubstep started sounding like anyway. I don't care (or know) too much about future garage, just been into Burial for years, but I 100% agree with that.
Shonda Soulier 06.01.2013	This isn't him changing direction. It's him imitating somebody else's sound. None of us knows the motive, but he's not dumb--a change of direction would derail his career. When Ben Gibbard put out his Postal Service LP he wasn't changing direction--he was just doing something else as a creative outlet. Brostep is alive and well and Skrillex is still atop the pyramid.
Reginia Tramble 06.01.2013	Actually the point in bold is probably the silliest thing written on the internets
Marshall Aby 06.01.2013	It's alright. It all seems a bit too clean for the late evening future garage vibe. For some reason, the production reminds me of Hybrid, even though their rhythms were of course straighter.
Lela Umanskaya 06.01.2013	Originally Posted by ad357 People don't seem to get it. The complaint isn't Skrillex "changing direction", it's Skrillex blatantly ripping off a lesser known artist. It seems that anyone who likes Skrillex, or likes this new tune, completely ignores that point. 23537.jpg I've listened to the EP, can't quite decide how I feel about it.
Rochel Papillion 05.01.2013	archangel is and always will be my fav track from burial. To me, I like the skrillex song just of what it represents more than for the production. its good but what it represents is how the biggest commercial "dubstep" artist did it. If his high school fans dig this, then they might be like wow, this is dubstep? then maybe (hopefully) dig deeper into the music and find all those other great artists. And it will also mean more of those brostep artist trying to emulate this sound, cause honestly, I would rather hear this than all this screetching and electro complextro or whatever people have been making. Kind of like if SHM made an actual house track
Shayne Kohtz 05.01.2013	Fair enough. Enjoy these...
Rochel Papillion 05.01.2013	Im not ashamed to say i been enjoying the shit out of fit, rip off or not
Shayne Kohtz 05.01.2013	People don't seem to get it. The complaint isn't Skrillex "changing direction", it's Skrillex blatantly ripping off a lesser known artist. It seems that anyone who likes Skrillex, or likes this new tune, completely ignores that point.
Jetta Drenzek 05.01.2013	Lot of hate in this thread, blimey! I've always respected Skrillex's production skills and always wondered what his music would be like if he branched out to something a bit more chilled, and now he's done it. Is the best song ever? No. Could you play this instead of his other songs in a club and satisfy everyone's Skrillex craving? Again, no. Yet the song is remarkably nice to have on whilst driving/doing menial tasks. Just out of interest, has anyone listened to the other two songs from the EP? The Reason is a great song which has a good drop at 2 minutes in and has a really cool french house vibe to it, and Scary Bolly Dub is pretty typical Skrillex with a few of his new french house patches carried over... In fact just as Scary Bolly Dub finishes now, I realise he hasn't changed at all. It's just Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites redux, and then a bollywood sample... I have no idea. He probably just didn't want to alienate old fans completely. I for one welcome Skrillex's experimenting. It's far too easy to just do what you do best and end up disappearing when your music isn't fashionable anymore. Also I can't recall many EDM artists who's debut release was their magnum opus, like Moby's Play or Daft Punk's Discovery; Both quite different from their previous efforts, but both widely regarded as some of the greatest albums ever released, consistently making it into the higher echelons of "Top X albums of all time" lists, so these recent changes in Skrillex's music don't surprise me. I'm not saying this EP is that calibre, it's not even remotely near, but I expect Skrillex will soon drop something special, something he'll be remembered for. He has the skill and the momentum to do it, he'd be a fool not to.
Birgit Gondal 05.01.2013	It sounds forced, Burials elements just sit, a few other great Future Garage producers do as well, they sound like they were meant to be woven together. this sounds like its thrown together. that vocal sample is god awful. nice bassline though, drums are very idm-y, i like them, but for this style they might need to be a bit more swung.
Tera Baragan 04.01.2013	Skrillex is becomming like religion, you have the people that treat him like a saint, and others that want nothing to do with him.
Kristofer Krauel 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by blackavenger It's obvious that we are going to have to agree to disagree. Thats cool. Its ok to disagree. Doesnt mean I hate you. :-) In truth people should take a lesson from you. I believe you handled that REALLY well!! :-) Ive never listened to future garage before. Ive just done a search and it sounds interesting. Nice one for the introduction!!
Shad Rametta 04.01.2013	It's obvious that we are going to have to agree to disagree.
Kristofer Krauel 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by blackavenger Why do I need to relax? Do you love underground Future Garage? If so, would you like it if it were compromised in such a way so that it appealed to the lowest common denominator? No, I don't want masses of idiots believeing that Skrillex invented UKGarage. I don't want thousands of Skrillex wannabes copying him, then adding shitty Pop Vocals, Electro-House Stabs, and Mid-Range Bass to it. Kats like Skrillex, Excision, and the like, need to stay the frak away from UKGarage. They should all just produce Electro-House....hell, that's what their Dubstep started sounding like anyway. How is this going to affect your "scene" though? It would just spawn a new subgenre of future garage and new artists. Your super cool existing future garage artists will still exist and will still perform at various club evening s just like they do now. Your worlds will co-exist side by side. Hell, you purists can one day get together an reminisce about how "they dont make future garage like they used to". Fuck the worst that could happen here is that some of the fans of this new future garage give your evening s a chance and they actually get to like it! Get off your high horse dude. You dont own that genre that you are so protective of! Embrace it. Dont feel threatened by it.
Benjamin Sieh 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by blackavenger Why do I need to relax? Do you love underground Future Garage? If so, would you like it if it were compromised in such a way so that it appealed to the lowest common denominator? No, I don't want masses of idiots believeing that Skrillex invented UKGarage. I don't want thousands of Skrillex wannabes copying him, then adding shitty Pop Vocals, Electro-House Stabs, and Mid-Range Bass to it. Kats like Skrillex, Excision, and the like, need to stay the frak away from UKGarage. They should all just produce Electro-House....hell, that's what their Dubstep started sounding like anyway. Looks like someone is butt hurt over something they have have no control over. Relax an look at the bright side of things. On another note yes dubstep is starting to sound a lot like electro house
Shayne Kohtz 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by blackavenger They should all just produce Electro-House....hell, that's what their Dubstep started sounding like anyway. I don't care (or know) too much about future garage, just been into Burial for years, but I 100% agree with that.
Shad Rametta 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by Zer0beet You sir need to relax Why do I need to relax? Do you love underground Future Garage? If so, would you like it if it were compromised in such a way so that it appealed to the lowest common denominator? No, I don't want masses of idiots believeing that Skrillex invented UKGarage. I don't want thousands of Skrillex wannabes copying him, then adding shitty Pop Vocals, Electro-House Stabs, and Mid-Range Bass to it. Kats like Skrillex, Excision, and the like, need to stay the frak away from UKGarage. They should all just produce Electro-House....hell, that's what their Dubstep started sounding like anyway.
Benjamin Sieh 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by blackavenger Oh Great, he freakin' killed Dubstep, and now he's gonna' try destroy UKG too..........back off buddy!!! You sir need to relax
Geri Jarra 04.01.2013	I agree with that. It's a shame when underground artests get their unique sound ripped off. Burial has been doing this for years without getting into the mainstream dubstep scene, but one week after skrillex makes his own version of that sound, it is all people want to listen to, and worse will give him credit for inventing a new sound. On the other hand, if people legitimately like his newer sound (not just because its him, but because they genuinely like this sub-genre recently introduced to them) then they are likely to find other similar sounding artests, which will undoubtably bring them to music by Burial. So in that sense, by skrillex ripping them off, they may see new found success in the potentially emerging scene. Sucks for Burial if Sonny gets all the credit for this particular style by the "EDM" Sheep.
Shayne Kohtz 04.01.2013	OK point, but do you believe it's fair for Skrillex to completely rip off another artist when likely 99% of Skrillex fans will never have heard of the guy he ripped off? Skrillex isn't exactly going to shout "THIS IS A BURIAL RIP OFF, GO & LISTEN TO HIM PLEASE", is he? If he does then I take it all back & he's actually a halfway decent guy but until then he is a wanker.
Cassidy Galindez 04.01.2013	Wow some of you people are just... wow.. Haha jealous or something? Shit dude he's a human being too, doing what he loves. Can't you just appreciate that and move on? So much damn negativity surrounding this guy.. Get over it! Your elitist "this is dubstep and he killed it" shit is old news. Guess what? People still make that kind of dubstep you are so endeared too and nobody (I hope!) is FORCING you to listen to Skrillex. Here's a piece of advice I feel like people need to hear all too often: If you don't like it, DON'T LISTEN! Jeeeeezuz lol
Tesha Freudenstein 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by Culture_Shock I dislike Skrillex, but I have to respect him for getting results. With all the controversy surrounding the EDM scene and his music specifically though, I would have respected him more if he had stuck to the music he has been making. Not staying true to the expectations of your fans tells me that you have no respect for the music and you don't take yourself seriously. You don't see guitarists writing a country album, and then a punk rock album, and then a jazz album, I believe that production is the same. You have to refine your style, you have to really portray your take on the genre, and that takes commitment. Sure it's nice to step out once and a while, it's good to expand your knowledge and abilities, but being all over the map just serves to blur the image that defines you. hu? so as an artist you have an obligation to appeal to your fans ? i don't believe so.
Shayne Kohtz 05.01.2013	Originally Posted by Coldfuzion Are you kidding? Why? Cause that's what the masses say? You don't believe Kyoto was a good track? And I would KILL to have his talent, and perseverance. For someone to make it from literally nothing to superstardom? And he gets to make music as a career and gets to DJ under the largest crowds at the best venues? Fuck all the noise, i'd kill to do that any day of the week. I didn't listen to this track, but big ups to Skrillex. I know I'm most likely on the wrong community to have opinions like this but I don't like anything Skrillex has done, or anything that sounds similar (for example, pretty much everything that yer man Ean Golden plays sounds like utter garbage to me & I would walk out of a club if someone was battering the life out of effects like that. If I saw a midi-fighter in a DJs set-up I would instantly be fearing the worst). This track is the closest I've heard to something I would like from Skrillex, apart from one point... Burial already exists & this is nothing but a piss-poor imitation of Burial. Even the artwork is a rip-off of Burial. Fuck off Skrillex & take all your friends who make car alarm/pneumatic drill music with you.
Loyce Mekonen 04.01.2013	I came to this thread expecting to hear that awful hysterical ear killer brostep he's made recently (I consider his first productions to be quite good though). I must say though, that I was quite delighted with the first two tracks posted in here, in fact, I'm really digging them. Props to him for trying something different!
Lawana Spratlen 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by Culture_Shock I dislike Skrillex, but I have to respect him for getting results. With all the controversy surrounding the EDM scene and his music specifically though, I would have respected him more if he had stuck to the music he has been making. Not staying true to the expectations of your fans tells me that you have no respect for the music and you don't take yourself seriously. You don't see guitarists writing a country album, and then a punk rock album, and then a jazz album, I believe that production is the same. You have to refine your style, you have to really portray your take on the genre, and that takes commitment. Sure it's nice to step out once and a while, it's good to expand your knowledge and abilities, but being all over the map just serves to blur the image that defines you. Nonsense loads of bands alter and flirt with other styles and genres.
Random X 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by streetStreet Guy has tight productions. He just needs a different head, as it looks total emo.
Geri Jarra 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by ST4R Im not a huge skrillex fan, but that cheesy house beat he made for his late friend David made me tear up. My brothers name is david... As much as I dont like a lot of his work, Sonny Moore seems like a really great guy. I didn't know that either. Haven't listened to that song in years, It brings back good memories 'leaving' reminded me of this one. A lot more mellow. I like his slower tracks
Cole Maroto 04.01.2013	Originally Posted by Culture_Shock I dislike Skrillex, but I have to respect him for getting results. With all the controversy surrounding the EDM scene and his music specifically though, I would have respected him more if he had stuck to the music he has been making. Not staying true to the expectations of your fans tells me that you have no respect for the music and you don't take yourself seriously. You don't see guitarists writing a country album, and then a punk rock album, and then a jazz album, I believe that production is the same. You have to refine your style, you have to really portray your take on the genre, and that takes commitment. Sure it's nice to step out once and a while, it's good to expand your knowledge and abilities, but being all over the map just serves to blur the image that defines you. i have to say that i really disagree with your point that i put in bold. i don't believe changing up your style, vibe, or genre means that you don't still have a high level of respect. in fact i could argue the opposite saying, if you show proficiency in many different types of music...that you have a very high level of respect for it, and you are pushing yourself creatively. this is kind of a no win situation as you are showing. when people change it up, others will always say they sold out, or should have stayed true to their roots. when they don't change it up, people say they are a one trick pony and have no real skill, just a formula or gimmick. you can never please everyone unfortunately. case in point. look at artists on ninja tune like coldcut. i would say they are now masters of many genres. same thing with groove armada, om records, and many other artists on various other labels. i really like that about them. even look at some rock acts like silverchair, chris cornell, the mars volta, etc. they show how much they love multiple styles of music and let most of it hang out without creating various names for different genres. i seek these types of artists out, because i can relate to that. i have a very eclectic scope and it shows in my dj sets. will that alienate people from some of my sets? can it blur some image that people may expect from djs or artists? sure, but i can accept that because it's important for me to have an outlet where i can show my appreciation for all sounds i love under one single moniker (i would have too many names if i split them up individually). it's precisely because i have a huge amount of respect for music as a whole and not the opposite. as far as skrillex, i don't really like too many of his songs (way too many pitched vocals for me)...except reptile's theme, that was a badass song! i can however respect the fact that he makes well produced songs that a lot of people seem to enjoy. it's all good.
Reginia Tramble 03.01.2013	Guy has tight productions.
Sheilah Kurzhal 03.01.2013	That's awesome ... I was never aware of this backstory or song at all. Thanks for sharing that! I respect cool, humble artists .. of all shapes and forms! Originally Posted by ST4R Im not a huge skrillex fan, but that cheesy house beat he made for his late friend David made me tear up. My brothers name is david... As much as I dont like a lot of his work, Sonny Moore seems like a really great guy.
Ryan Schlich 03.01.2013	Im not a huge skrillex fan, but that cheesy house beat he made for his late friend David made me tear up. My brothers name is david... As much as I dont like a lot of his work, Sonny Moore seems like a really great guy.
Jolynn Schroyer 03.01.2013	I like it, his softer music is great to me. Like the summit song he did with Ellie Goulding. This song is legit also.
Masako Barcalow 03.01.2013	Originally Posted by AllDay That autotuned sample makes me want to jump off something really high. You know sonny was in a screamo band that did pretty decent right.. He definitely didnt start out at the bottom. Being in a mid-level indie band is not the bottom, but it's not far off...I've yet to hear of anyone in such a position making anything remotely close to what can be called a sustainable living.
Sheilah Kurzhal 03.01.2013	I bet he's switching it up on purpose ... solely to keep us arguing / debating the controversy. You can tell by his HYPER attention to detail in his synthesis and productions that he's very smart.
Debrah Arnaout 03.01.2013	Originally Posted by AllDay That autotuned sample makes me want to jump off something really high. You know sonny was in a screamo band that did pretty decent right.. He definitely didnt start out at the bottom. that and he used to be pretty chubby

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