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Is this even possible? (EQ kills at EQ value -100%)
Posted on: 03.03.2011 by Arlyne Shigley
I have TSP v1.2.7 running on win7 and a Kontrol X1, I need help figuring out how to map my X1 to have one knob control all EQ bands with full EQ kills at the -100% and nowhere above.

I have successfully macro mapped the EQ bands to the topmost knob, but I can not figure out how to get the knob to "EQ kill" at the bottom (-100%)

Is this even possible? A few people have told me it is theoretically possible, but no one has been able to describe how.

Please help me, I would truly appreciate it.
Marguerite Truka
11.03.2011
Originally Posted by Parihelion
It doesn't, and I am in midi mode. Thanks for the help but I have tried that and invertion only makes the knob EQ kill at the value range of -100% through +99%, which isn't helpful. when not inverted the knob EQ kills at the value range of -99 through +100, which isn't helpfull.

I got another non-functional theory by somone on another community :

"map a modifier to your control, set the type as an encoder. Twiddle with it lots and play around with the sensitivity and settings until at -100% the modifier reaches its maximum 8 value. Now setup an EQ kill to that encoder too and set one of the conditions to only initiate if your specified modifiers value is at 8."

but in actual usage, again, this theory doesn't work.

I can find no way of making an encoder modifier change values at that specific place (-100%). What the encoder seems to do is change modifier values on either side of the "click" in the middle. No amount of twiddling with the sensitivity produces the desired modification at the bottom left of the finite knob . Also, that method does not describe how to tell Traktor to turn OFF the EQ kill at a value above -100%.

I did however make a mild improvement (still not functional) by changing the type of controller to "rotary/fader" with a rotary sensitivity of 40%. I then set up a EQ kill with a condition to only initiate if modifier value is 0, set interaction mode "direct" and a set value to 1, and mapped another EQ kill with a condition to only initiate if modifier value is 1, set interaction mode "direct" and set value to 0. This ALMOST works, but it doesn't.

Can someone actually TEST their theory before telling me? That is why I said "A few people have told me it is theoretically possible" because no one has said "I did this ... and it worked"

Thanks for the help, but as you might understand this whole process is more than a little frustrating.
a few tweaks and that theory does work will sort out a mapping 2mora and post in this thread read my book for more mapping tips
Arlyne Shigley
04.03.2011
Originally Posted by derschaich
assign the knob to the "EQ kill" (as a button) and make sure you check "invert"

as far as i know this is how it should work!
It doesn't, and I am in midi mode. Thanks for the help but I have tried that and invertion only makes the knob EQ kill at the value range of -100% through +99%, which isn't helpful. when not inverted the knob EQ kills at the value range of -99 through +100, which isn't helpfull.

I got another non-functional theory by somone on another community :

"map a modifier to your control, set the type as an encoder. Twiddle with it lots and play around with the sensitivity and settings until at -100% the modifier reaches its maximum 8 value. Now setup an EQ kill to that encoder too and set one of the conditions to only initiate if your specified modifiers value is at 8."

but in actual usage, again, this theory doesn't work.

I can find no way of making an encoder modifier change values at that specific place (-100%). What the encoder seems to do is change modifier values on either side of the "click" in the middle. No amount of twiddling with the sensitivity produces the desired modification at the bottom left of the finite knob . Also, that method does not describe how to tell Traktor to turn OFF the EQ kill at a value above -100%.

I did however make a mild improvement (still not functional) by changing the type of controller to "rotary/fader" with a rotary sensitivity of 40%. I then set up a EQ kill with a condition to only initiate if modifier value is 0, set interaction mode "direct" and a set value to 1, and mapped another EQ kill with a condition to only initiate if modifier value is 1, set interaction mode "direct" and set value to 0. This ALMOST works, but it doesn't.

Can someone actually TEST their theory before telling me? That is why I said "A few people have told me it is theoretically possible" because no one has said "I did this ... and it worked"

Thanks for the help, but as you might understand this whole process is more than a little frustrating.
Arlyne Shigley
03.03.2011		I have TSP v1.2.7 running on win7 and a Kontrol X1, I need help figuring out how to map my X1 to have one knob control all EQ bands with full EQ kills at the -100% and nowhere above.

I have successfully macro mapped the EQ bands to the topmost knob, but I can not figure out how to get the knob to "EQ kill" at the bottom (-100%)

Is this even possible? A few people have told me it is theoretically possible, but no one has been able to describe how.

Please help me, I would truly appreciate it.
Marguerite Truka
11.03.2011
Originally Posted by Parihelion
It doesn't, and I am in midi mode. Thanks for the help but I have tried that and invertion only makes the knob EQ kill at the value range of -100% through +99%, which isn't helpful. when not inverted the knob EQ kills at the value range of -99 through +100, which isn't helpfull.

I got another non-functional theory by somone on another community :

"map a modifier to your control, set the type as an encoder. Twiddle with it lots and play around with the sensitivity and settings until at -100% the modifier reaches its maximum 8 value. Now setup an EQ kill to that encoder too and set one of the conditions to only initiate if your specified modifiers value is at 8."

but in actual usage, again, this theory doesn't work.

I can find no way of making an encoder modifier change values at that specific place (-100%). What the encoder seems to do is change modifier values on either side of the "click" in the middle. No amount of twiddling with the sensitivity produces the desired modification at the bottom left of the finite knob . Also, that method does not describe how to tell Traktor to turn OFF the EQ kill at a value above -100%.

I did however make a mild improvement (still not functional) by changing the type of controller to "rotary/fader" with a rotary sensitivity of 40%. I then set up a EQ kill with a condition to only initiate if modifier value is 0, set interaction mode "direct" and a set value to 1, and mapped another EQ kill with a condition to only initiate if modifier value is 1, set interaction mode "direct" and set value to 0. This ALMOST works, but it doesn't.

Can someone actually TEST their theory before telling me? That is why I said "A few people have told me it is theoretically possible" because no one has said "I did this ... and it worked"

Thanks for the help, but as you might understand this whole process is more than a little frustrating.
a few tweaks and that theory does work will sort out a mapping 2mora and post in this thread read my book for more mapping tips
Deanne Baston
10.03.2011		I was trying to do a similar thing for my Numark Total Control. While you are saying the rotary modifier is just fiddling around alot, try using around 23%. I use about there on faders and knobs both and it seems to work. another option that I use is to set the % then watch the modifier number... When you hit your point you want to have the modifier kill the eq, then when it changes again you can set it to turn back on...

It really does work for almost any knob, or fader. I unfortunately have to say that alot of the time it might take some fiddling with the modifier values so you can get the right type of function you want.

Hope this might help a little, and good luck!

Keep the beat bumpin!
Allene Manitta
05.03.2011		i see your problem, and try to help as far as i can:

try to use bomes and have it triggering a second midi note, when your poti has the value zero.
this should be possible with glovePIE, too.

edit: sorry for being theorethical on this again
Arlyne Shigley
04.03.2011
Originally Posted by derschaich
assign the knob to the "EQ kill" (as a button) and make sure you check "invert"

as far as i know this is how it should work!
It doesn't, and I am in midi mode. Thanks for the help but I have tried that and invertion only makes the knob EQ kill at the value range of -100% through +99%, which isn't helpful. when not inverted the knob EQ kills at the value range of -99 through +100, which isn't helpfull.

I got another non-functional theory by somone on another community :

"map a modifier to your control, set the type as an encoder. Twiddle with it lots and play around with the sensitivity and settings until at -100% the modifier reaches its maximum 8 value. Now setup an EQ kill to that encoder too and set one of the conditions to only initiate if your specified modifiers value is at 8."

but in actual usage, again, this theory doesn't work.

I can find no way of making an encoder modifier change values at that specific place (-100%). What the encoder seems to do is change modifier values on either side of the "click" in the middle. No amount of twiddling with the sensitivity produces the desired modification at the bottom left of the finite knob . Also, that method does not describe how to tell Traktor to turn OFF the EQ kill at a value above -100%.

I did however make a mild improvement (still not functional) by changing the type of controller to "rotary/fader" with a rotary sensitivity of 40%. I then set up a EQ kill with a condition to only initiate if modifier value is 0, set interaction mode "direct" and a set value to 1, and mapped another EQ kill with a condition to only initiate if modifier value is 1, set interaction mode "direct" and set value to 0. This ALMOST works, but it doesn't.

Can someone actually TEST their theory before telling me? That is why I said "A few people have told me it is theoretically possible" because no one has said "I did this ... and it worked"

Thanks for the help, but as you might understand this whole process is more than a little frustrating.
Nedra Fresneda
04.03.2011		that only works in MIDI mode
Allene Manitta
04.03.2011		assign the knob to the "EQ kill" (as a button) and make sure you check "invert"

as far as i know this is how it should work!

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