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Using a modifier as a shift key for ANOTHER midi controller? Help!
Posted on: 13.03.2011 by Alan Boldizsar
I haven't figured this one out yet. Does traktor allow you to make a shift-key modifier that will apply for another seperate controller?

My example: I want to be able to press an LED button on my xone 1d that will act as a shift-key for a midifighter. When I press the shift key modifier on the xone, buttons on the midifighter change functions (specifically cue points). That way I don't need to put the shift-key on the midifighter.

Anybody know how to do this? My new set-up that is in progress is kinda reliant on this to be perfect
Alan Boldizsar
14.03.2011
Originally Posted by M Elbert Grant
you gotta create modifiers that basically act as toggles.
"First create a command that says
Yuonne Ingamells
14.03.2011		you gotta create modifiers that basically act as toggles.
"First create a command that says
Alan Boldizsar
15.03.2011
Originally Posted by TreTuna
Doesn't the midifighter default send everything to channel 3? So it would just be a matter of making sure that the xone and any other midi stuff you have isn't, which is a matter per midi device. I'm not sure how you set the midi on the xone, but it's never too hard. Either the controller editor software on the computer or some easy switch on the device. Never used one so I couldn't tell you on that.
If it all goes to channel 3 that should be okay because I don't believe any other midis are using channel 3 at the moment.

Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
it's very easy to change the midi channel on a midifighter, check out the menu mode sticky in the midifighter community .
Will check that out. Thanks.

Originally Posted by MiL0
what about using something like a virtual midi input/output program? that way all your controllers can share the same midi port?
I've tried one of those before...could not get it going whatsoever. I will be trying the all ports methods once my midifighters get in, sounds pretty good.
Alan Boldizsar
14.03.2011
Originally Posted by M Elbert Grant
you gotta create modifiers that basically act as toggles.
"First create a command that says
Tatum Ansaldo
14.03.2011
Originally Posted by derschaich
create your mapping (the modifier from your xone, and all the commands on you midi-fighter) for a seperated device (generic midi) apart from the xone.

you need the midi-in on "all ports" to get the signals from the xone and the midi-fighter.

now you map the modifier just as it was on a single controller.

be careful with the the midi note of the modifier-signal not being used on the midi fighter.
ah right so it is possible via workaround... I wouldn't dare do that with my setup though cos there are so many midi notes flying around that using 'all ports' for anything is just plain dangerous!
Tatum Ansaldo
14.03.2011
Originally Posted by M Elbert Grant
you gotta create modifiers that basically act as toggles....
I don't believe that's what he was asking.

The answer I believe is no at the moment, there are no global modifiers that affect all controllers and not just the one you're mapping. I believe it's a much requested but as yet unimplemented feature. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong though!
Yuonne Ingamells
14.03.2011		you gotta create modifiers that basically act as toggles.
"First create a command that says
Alan Boldizsar
13.03.2011		I haven't figured this one out yet. Does traktor allow you to make a shift-key modifier that will apply for another seperate controller?

My example: I want to be able to press an LED button on my xone 1d that will act as a shift-key for a midifighter. When I press the shift key modifier on the xone, buttons on the midifighter change functions (specifically cue points). That way I don't need to put the shift-key on the midifighter.

Anybody know how to do this? My new set-up that is in progress is kinda reliant on this to be perfect
Angel Lavian
30.03.2011		I am having a similar problem. I've created the modifier just how everyone has described in this thread, but the toggle I have assigned still doesnt work...I dont get it. Do I litterally have to type in the description box "when M1=0 turn off toggle"?
Alan Boldizsar
15.03.2011
Originally Posted by TreTuna
Doesn't the midifighter default send everything to channel 3? So it would just be a matter of making sure that the xone and any other midi stuff you have isn't, which is a matter per midi device. I'm not sure how you set the midi on the xone, but it's never too hard. Either the controller editor software on the computer or some easy switch on the device. Never used one so I couldn't tell you on that.
If it all goes to channel 3 that should be okay because I don't believe any other midis are using channel 3 at the moment.

Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
it's very easy to change the midi channel on a midifighter, check out the menu mode sticky in the midifighter community .
Will check that out. Thanks.

Originally Posted by MiL0
what about using something like a virtual midi input/output program? that way all your controllers can share the same midi port?
I've tried one of those before...could not get it going whatsoever. I will be trying the all ports methods once my midifighters get in, sounds pretty good.
Arcelia Siebeneck
15.03.2011		what about using something like a virtual midi input/output program? that way all your controllers can share the same midi port?
Tatum Ansaldo
15.03.2011		it's very easy to change the midi channel on a midifighter, check out the menu mode sticky in the midifighter community .
Anisa Fourte
15.03.2011		Doesn't the midifighter default send everything to channel 3? So it would just be a matter of making sure that the xone and any other midi stuff you have isn't, which is a matter per midi device. I'm not sure how you set the midi on the xone, but it's never too hard. Either the controller editor software on the computer or some easy switch on the device. Never used one so I couldn't tell you on that.
Alan Boldizsar
14.03.2011
Originally Posted by M Elbert Grant
you gotta create modifiers that basically act as toggles.
"First create a command that says
Tatum Ansaldo
14.03.2011		Can I be bothered do change the channel of my mappings.....

Nop!

Edit: No one need feel obliged to answer that comment, I have no desire for global modifiers!
Allene Manitta
14.03.2011		just keep your devices on different channels (if you don't use more than 16 ) and everything stays clean!
Tatum Ansaldo
14.03.2011
Originally Posted by derschaich
create your mapping (the modifier from your xone, and all the commands on you midi-fighter) for a seperated device (generic midi) apart from the xone.

you need the midi-in on "all ports" to get the signals from the xone and the midi-fighter.

now you map the modifier just as it was on a single controller.

be careful with the the midi note of the modifier-signal not being used on the midi fighter.
ah right so it is possible via workaround... I wouldn't dare do that with my setup though cos there are so many midi notes flying around that using 'all ports' for anything is just plain dangerous!
Tatum Ansaldo
14.03.2011
Originally Posted by M Elbert Grant
you gotta create modifiers that basically act as toggles....
I don't believe that's what he was asking.

The answer I believe is no at the moment, there are no global modifiers that affect all controllers and not just the one you're mapping. I believe it's a much requested but as yet unimplemented feature. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong though!
Allene Manitta
14.03.2011		create your mapping (the modifier from your xone, and all the commands on you midi-fighter) for a seperated device (generic midi) apart from the xone.

you need the midi-in on "all ports" to get the signals from the xone and the midi-fighter.

now you map the modifier just as it was on a single controller.

be careful with the the midi note of the modifier-signal not being used on the midi fighter.
Yuonne Ingamells
14.03.2011		you gotta create modifiers that basically act as toggles.
"First create a command that says

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