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Loop Mapping / APC40 / LED Help?
Posted on: 13.04.2011 by Eddie Maina
Hi Everyone,

So I started playing around with mapping my apc40 for traktor but i continue to run into a wall with a few items, for now i'll ask about the one main issue...

How do I map auto-loop points to buttons and have the led behave as follow:
off=green
activated=blinking green in sync (or at least blinking green)

I have searched the community s, the web and anywhere else i could and i have not found a solution - except one, which was a bit overly complicated for what I want to accomplish. So, maybe someone out there has an idea?

Thanks in advance!
Nedra Fresneda
06.05.2011
Originally Posted by Lysgaard
Baaah, this is embarassing, still not working.
You are referring to add out>global>send monitor state, right? Any controller/midi range stuff for that? So weird, it should work by now...
yup.

post a screenshot of the out mapping
Nedra Fresneda
07.05.2011
Originally Posted by Lysgaard
ok, thanks!
This is my issue: having my "activate loop" button light up when the loop is active. Starting simple =)
I've mapped the button itself no prob, and set up an out to the same note value, midi range min=0 max=4. But the button only lights up when pressed, how do I make it toggle? Also not sure if I should map that to "loop active" or "loop set".
Thanks for your help, really appreciate it!
Add a Send Monitor State in to that button, tick invert
Eddie Maina
07.05.2011
Originally Posted by Lysgaard
Hey, I'm trying to figure out this LED stuff myself, with my own APC...
Any chance on a simple guide to the mapping? I've mapped plenty stuff before but I'm clueless with the LEDs.
the led mapping for the most part works the same...

1. choose an OUT function
2. assign it to a button (or whatever else); there is no learn function
3. then select the led state for on and off... led states are listed in the manual and are something like 1-6, each number representing a color and if its blinking or not
Eddie Maina
21.04.2011
Originally Posted by Graham Campbell
I'm sharing your pain right now! I'm new to Traktor (just acquired Traktor Scratch Pro 2) and am finding the mappings painful with my APC40.

I had no problems assigning hot cues for Deck A & Deck B so that I get solid green if no cue is assigned and solid red when cue is assigned, but trying to do similar with other actions such as having "beat jump" on deck A set to orange default is near impossible. I actually put in the correct values and it's been turning red! Very frustrating.

I believe my biggest frustration is that I can't see the logic in why in some cases I can assign (for example) -1 and -1 as the midi range but in other cases it will force me to be in positive values only (I have -1 / -1 for the controller range with the hot cue state actions).

I feel your pain on this one, I'll let you know if I have any success this weekend, will likely be starting from scratch again to see if I can nail this down.
this is the direction i went...
http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...d=1#post271443
Eddie Maina
17.04.2011
Originally Posted by coolmatic
I assume it should apply to both. Open Ableton, wait for red rectangle around clips, close Ableton, open Traktor, then try your LED mappings.
yeah. dumb state doesn't seem to apply to mac. the leds load up correctly without having to go to ableton.
Eddie Maina
17.04.2011
Originally Posted by MuzicFreq
Talk to Paddy, his APC40 mapping is godlike!
been using it today and I took a look at the mapping section and MY GAWD I see stuff I never seen before:eek: But it all works 100% and getting more and more used to how it's mapped.

he could help ya on getting the loops mapped like ya want
thanks. i guess i decided to change my direction and use loop in/out points with inc/dec size. but now i'm trying to figure out how to work the Slot State parameter.
Stephnie Godbole
15.04.2011
Originally Posted by shanefontane
bump. it's now day 3 as i attempt to map these damn loop buttons. if there is a mapping god out there - please make it rain!
Talk to Paddy, his APC40 mapping is godlike!
been using it today and I took a look at the mapping section and MY GAWD I see stuff I never seen before:eek: But it all works 100% and getting more and more used to how it's mapped.

he could help ya on getting the loops mapped like ya want
Sammie Filetti
06.05.2011
Here ya go... What do you believe?
Sammie Filetti
06.05.2011
Okay, see it sometimes work when I press the button SUPER fast. I read somewhere that the APC sends an off message when the button is released, so I need to work around that maybe? I'll owe you a beer after this
Nedra Fresneda
06.05.2011
Originally Posted by Lysgaard
Baaah, this is embarassing, still not working.
You are referring to add out>global>send monitor state, right? Any controller/midi range stuff for that? So weird, it should work by now...
yup.

post a screenshot of the out mapping
Sammie Filetti
06.05.2011
Baaah, this is embarassing, still not working.
You are referring to add out>global>send monitor state, right? Any controller/midi range stuff for that? So weird, it should work by now...
Nedra Fresneda
07.05.2011
Originally Posted by Lysgaard
ok, thanks!
This is my issue: having my "activate loop" button light up when the loop is active. Starting simple =)
I've mapped the button itself no prob, and set up an out to the same note value, midi range min=0 max=4. But the button only lights up when pressed, how do I make it toggle? Also not sure if I should map that to "loop active" or "loop set".
Thanks for your help, really appreciate it!
Add a Send Monitor State in to that button, tick invert
Sammie Filetti
07.05.2011
ok, thanks!
This is my issue: having my "activate loop" button light up when the loop is active. Starting simple =)
I've mapped the button itself no prob, and set up an out to the same note value, midi range min=0 max=4. But the button only lights up when pressed, how do I make it toggle? Also not sure if I should map that to "loop active" or "loop set".
Thanks for your help, really appreciate it!
Eddie Maina
07.05.2011
Originally Posted by Lysgaard
Hey, I'm trying to figure out this LED stuff myself, with my own APC...
Any chance on a simple guide to the mapping? I've mapped plenty stuff before but I'm clueless with the LEDs.
the led mapping for the most part works the same...

1. choose an OUT function
2. assign it to a button (or whatever else); there is no learn function
3. then select the led state for on and off... led states are listed in the manual and are something like 1-6, each number representing a color and if its blinking or not
Sammie Filetti
06.05.2011
Hey, I'm trying to figure out this LED stuff myself, with my own APC...
Any chance on a simple guide to the mapping? I've mapped plenty stuff before but I'm clueless with the LEDs.
Eddie Maina
21.04.2011
Originally Posted by Graham Campbell
I'm sharing your pain right now! I'm new to Traktor (just acquired Traktor Scratch Pro 2) and am finding the mappings painful with my APC40.

I had no problems assigning hot cues for Deck A & Deck B so that I get solid green if no cue is assigned and solid red when cue is assigned, but trying to do similar with other actions such as having "beat jump" on deck A set to orange default is near impossible. I actually put in the correct values and it's been turning red! Very frustrating.

I believe my biggest frustration is that I can't see the logic in why in some cases I can assign (for example) -1 and -1 as the midi range but in other cases it will force me to be in positive values only (I have -1 / -1 for the controller range with the hot cue state actions).

I feel your pain on this one, I'll let you know if I have any success this weekend, will likely be starting from scratch again to see if I can nail this down.
this is the direction i went...
http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...d=1#post271443
Christia Saltmarsh
20.04.2011
I'm sharing your pain right now! I'm new to Traktor (just acquired Traktor Scratch Pro 2) and am finding the mappings painful with my APC40.

I had no problems assigning hot cues for Deck A & Deck B so that I get solid green if no cue is assigned and solid red when cue is assigned, but trying to do similar with other actions such as having "beat jump" on deck A set to orange default is near impossible. I actually put in the correct values and it's been turning red! Very frustrating.

I believe my biggest frustration is that I can't see the logic in why in some cases I can assign (for example) -1 and -1 as the midi range but in other cases it will force me to be in positive values only (I have -1 / -1 for the controller range with the hot cue state actions).

I feel your pain on this one, I'll let you know if I have any success this weekend, will likely be starting from scratch again to see if I can nail this down.
Eddie Maina
17.04.2011
Originally Posted by coolmatic
I assume it should apply to both. Open Ableton, wait for red rectangle around clips, close Ableton, open Traktor, then try your LED mappings.
yeah. dumb state doesn't seem to apply to mac. the leds load up correctly without having to go to ableton.
Eddie Maina
17.04.2011
Originally Posted by MuzicFreq
Talk to Paddy, his APC40 mapping is godlike!
been using it today and I took a look at the mapping section and MY GAWD I see stuff I never seen before:eek: But it all works 100% and getting more and more used to how it's mapped.

he could help ya on getting the loops mapped like ya want
thanks. i guess i decided to change my direction and use loop in/out points with inc/dec size. but now i'm trying to figure out how to work the Slot State parameter.
Stephnie Godbole
15.04.2011
Originally Posted by shanefontane
bump. it's now day 3 as i attempt to map these damn loop buttons. if there is a mapping god out there - please make it rain!
Talk to Paddy, his APC40 mapping is godlike!
been using it today and I took a look at the mapping section and MY GAWD I see stuff I never seen before:eek: But it all works 100% and getting more and more used to how it's mapped.

he could help ya on getting the loops mapped like ya want
Jacquelyne Amponsah
15.04.2011
I assume it should apply to both. Open Ableton, wait for red rectangle around clips, close Ableton, open Traktor, then try your LED mappings.
Eddie Maina
15.04.2011
hmmm... possibly not... i am on a mac though - i thought that was a windows thing?
Jacquelyne Amponsah
15.04.2011
You got the APC40 in 'dumb' mode?
Eddie Maina
14.04.2011
apc40 grid

specifically...

Deck A
row 3, column 1 = loop decrease
row 3, column 2 = loop increase
row 3, column 3 = loop size 1
row 3, column 4 = loop size 2

row 4, column 1 = loop size 4
row 4, column 2 = loop size 8
row 4, column 3 = loop size 16
row 4, column 4 = loop size 32

i am trying to map it so that when the loop is not active the led is solid green. when the loop is active the led is blinking green.

the loop decrease/increase would be solid orange.

i will then repeat this for Deck B.
Nisha Latkowski
14.04.2011
which buttons are you trying map?
Eddie Maina
14.04.2011
bump. it's now day 3 as i attempt to map these damn loop buttons. if there is a mapping god out there - please make it rain!
Eddie Maina
14.04.2011
haha... that's 0-7 as i previously mentioned

anyone have any ideas? i tried all kinds of different OUTs within the loops drop down and i can only get one state to operate at a time - either it's blinking when on or blinking when off. There is no solid green on off and blinking on active.

Surely there must be a solution, no?
Jacquelyne Amponsah
14.04.2011
Exactly.
Eddie Maina
14.04.2011
according to the manual...
0=off, 1=green, 2=green blink, 3=red, 4=red blink, 5=yellow, 6=yellow blink, 7-127=green
Jacquelyne Amponsah
14.04.2011
Not for me at least. When in doubt, RTFM
http://www.akaipro.com/extras/produc...ocol_rev_1.pdf
Jacquelyne Amponsah
14.04.2011
Nah brah.
Eddie Maina
14.04.2011
Originally Posted by coolmatic
The LEDs on the APC40 can be set to different states by putting in a value of 1-127 in the MIDI range section. You want to Add In... and select the function you have it assigned to, then look at the corresponding Out to see what the note is, for example Ch06.Note.A3 would correspond to the button fifth column, fifth row. For solid green and flashing green, you would want to put 2 for the Min MIDI range, and 127 for the Max MIDI range.
Hope this helps, rather than confusing you more.
i thought apc worked off of 0-7 for the range of available states?
Jacquelyne Amponsah
14.04.2011
The LEDs on the APC40 can be set to different states by putting in a value of 1-127 in the MIDI range section. You want to Add In... and select the function you have it assigned to, then look at the corresponding Out to see what the note is, for example Ch06.Note.A3 would correspond to the button fifth column, fifth row. For solid green and flashing green, you would want to put 2 for the Min MIDI range, and 127 for the Max MIDI range.
Hope this helps, rather than confusing you more.
Eddie Maina
13.04.2011
i have to admit, this is a bit ridiculous. i have all kinds of stuff mapped and i can't get the right feedback... so nuts. must take a break.

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