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Sample Deck - Losing Sync
Posted on: 16.05.2011 by Eddie Maina
So, I mapped a few buttons to trigger sample decks and i have a couple of questions...

  1. is there no way to set the sample to be re-triggered e.g. i wanna play a rhythm and not just drop it in sync...
  2. my samples keep losing sync with the master bpm , ideas?


also, i have master ON, snap and qzt ON... when playing the sample in deck B it works fine... when i place it within a sample deck - LOSES SYNC.
Nedra Fresneda
17.05.2011
Originally Posted by deco
could this be a similar issue? i'm wondering if the sample decks have a loop length selection for the deck or each sample bank? i know the sampler in the middle has a length selection, but if you import from there, it's obviously going to be fine cause it's been recorded internally. idk.
You can double/halve each sample's length via mapping
Loreta Makemson
18.05.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
Samples aren't synced, only loops are. You are supposed to use one shots (short tempo free samples) there. Request it at the NI community .
You see the first sample has a blue arrow pointing right? SEE ATTACHED PIC

The second sample has a green arrow in a circle? SEE ATTACHED PIC

If you click you click the arrows you could select if the sample is going to play once ( blue arrow pointing right) or be playing continuously (green round arrow).
When its in continuous mode it should sync to the master try it out!
Nedra Fresneda
16.05.2011
Originally Posted by shanefontane
grid is aligned. i can take the sample and drag it into a track deck and it keeps sync. if i drag it into the sample deck it loses sync. :/

ill check out the other mapping suggested. thanks!
Samples aren't synced, only loops are. You are supposed to use one shots (short tempo free samples) there. Request it at the NI community .
Eddie Maina
16.05.2011
Originally Posted by gbus_24
Check if the beat aligns with the beat grid if not beat grid it yourself.
grid is aligned. i can take the sample and drag it into a track deck and it keeps sync. if i drag it into the sample deck it loses sync. :/

ill check out the other mapping suggested. thanks!
Loreta Makemson
16.05.2011
Originally Posted by shanefontane
So, I mapped a few buttons to trigger sample decks and i have a couple of questions...

  1. is there no way to set the sample to be re-triggered e.g. i wanna play a rhythm and not just drop it in sync...
  2. my samples keep losing sync with the master bpm , ideas?


also, i have master ON, snap and qzt ON... when playing the sample in deck B it works fine... when i place it within a sample deck - LOSES SYNC.
Check if the beat aligns with the beat grid if not beat grid it yourself.
Eddie Maina
16.05.2011		So, I mapped a few buttons to trigger sample decks and i have a couple of questions...

  1. is there no way to set the sample to be re-triggered e.g. i wanna play a rhythm and not just drop it in sync...
  2. my samples keep losing sync with the master bpm , ideas?


also, i have master ON, snap and qzt ON... when playing the sample in deck B it works fine... when i place it within a sample deck - LOSES SYNC.
Eddie Maina
17.05.2011		eesh. kinda clunky system we have here to work with... i grabbed a loop from a library, dropped it into a sample slot and it didn't work.

would be great if it simply worked :/

as for the continuous and play once, yep - aware of that. my loops work fine as long as i grab the loop from the deck playing. but if i import a new loop from library i get the blow out. it drifts off...

ill have to play around a moment more i guess. probably going to remove sample decks from my mapping though. if it's not key locked and its not capable of re-triggering and syncing... might as well have paid me to eat pizza vs spend it on development of sample decks.
Nedra Fresneda
17.05.2011
Originally Posted by deco
could this be a similar issue? i'm wondering if the sample decks have a loop length selection for the deck or each sample bank? i know the sampler in the middle has a length selection, but if you import from there, it's obviously going to be fine cause it's been recorded internally. idk.
You can double/halve each sample's length via mapping
Wayne Washko
17.05.2011		i don't have tpro 2 yet but i had a similar problem with short sample loops in tpro. what i found was that the default length of the loop according to the deck was 16 beats - but the loop was only 4 or 8 so it was beatgridded properly, sync was on and so was quantize and snap and it would phase out.

turns out all i had to do was set the loop length on the deck to the same number of beats that the actual loop was - and it all worked fine after that.

could this be a similar issue? i'm wondering if the sample decks have a loop length selection for the deck or each sample bank? i know the sampler in the middle has a length selection, but if you import from there, it's obviously going to be fine cause it's been recorded internally. idk.

hope this helps!
Loreta Makemson
18.05.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
Samples aren't synced, only loops are. You are supposed to use one shots (short tempo free samples) there. Request it at the NI community .
You see the first sample has a blue arrow pointing right? SEE ATTACHED PIC

The second sample has a green arrow in a circle? SEE ATTACHED PIC

If you click you click the arrows you could select if the sample is going to play once ( blue arrow pointing right) or be playing continuously (green round arrow).
When its in continuous mode it should sync to the master try it out!
Nedra Fresneda
16.05.2011
Originally Posted by shanefontane
grid is aligned. i can take the sample and drag it into a track deck and it keeps sync. if i drag it into the sample deck it loses sync. :/

ill check out the other mapping suggested. thanks!
Samples aren't synced, only loops are. You are supposed to use one shots (short tempo free samples) there. Request it at the NI community .
Eddie Maina
16.05.2011
Originally Posted by gbus_24
Check if the beat aligns with the beat grid if not beat grid it yourself.
grid is aligned. i can take the sample and drag it into a track deck and it keeps sync. if i drag it into the sample deck it loses sync. :/

ill check out the other mapping suggested. thanks!
Nedra Fresneda
16.05.2011		^what he said, and map a button to act as retrigger (vs sample play/pause) when a sample is loaded instead of a loop.
Loreta Makemson
16.05.2011
Originally Posted by shanefontane
So, I mapped a few buttons to trigger sample decks and i have a couple of questions...

  1. is there no way to set the sample to be re-triggered e.g. i wanna play a rhythm and not just drop it in sync...
  2. my samples keep losing sync with the master bpm , ideas?


also, i have master ON, snap and qzt ON... when playing the sample in deck B it works fine... when i place it within a sample deck - LOSES SYNC.
Check if the beat aligns with the beat grid if not beat grid it yourself.

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