Denon DN-SC2000 .tsi bug, need help...
Denon DN-SC2000 .tsi bug, need help... Posted on: 02.03.2011 by Homer Selgado Soooo.....I have the stock .tsi's from denon, as well as an updated stock .tsi from a board member on here that corrects a hotcue LED feedback issue. The problem I have is, on both of the "2-Deck" .tsi's, when the unit is shifted from deck focus A to deck focus B the "Key Lock" buttons LED flashes for some unknown reason. Manipulating the button grabs LED feedback, but if I shift back to A, then back to B, it returns to a flashing state, no matter weather Key Lock is on, or off. The REALLY odd part about this is: I have scowered both .tsi's, and for the life of me, I cant figure out what is telling that button to flash. Everywhere its midi note is referenced, the commands are exactly identicle to the Deck A commands, but for some reason Deck B' Key Lock flashes, and Deck A's works perfectly... Any help on this would be greatly appreciated... And the Denon stock .tsi can be downloaded from their site if you feel like digging around the .tsi to see whats what. | |
| Homer Selgado 02.03.2011 | Soooo..... I have the stock .tsi's from denon, as well as an updated stock .tsi from a board member on here that corrects a hotcue LED feedback issue. The problem I have is, on both of the "2-Deck" .tsi's, when the unit is shifted from deck focus A to deck focus B the "Key Lock" buttons LED flashes for some unknown reason. Manipulating the button grabs LED feedback, but if I shift back to A, then back to B, it returns to a flashing state, no matter weather Key Lock is on, or off. The REALLY odd part about this is: I have scowered both .tsi's, and for the life of me, I cant figure out what is telling that button to flash. Everywhere its midi note is referenced, the commands are exactly identicle to the Deck A commands, but for some reason Deck B' Key Lock flashes, and Deck A's works perfectly... Any help on this would be greatly appreciated... And the Denon stock .tsi can be downloaded from their site if you feel like digging around the .tsi to see whats what. |
| Ghislaine Gurda 11.07.2011 | Hi! I have a similar problem with the SC... Just to say, I am on Traktor Pro 2 (legit) and working on the official DenonDJ .TSI file for the DN-SC2000. I also have a Hercules RMX plugged in as a USB midi controller and soundcard, custom-mapped with different LED feedback. so... My problem is : when I plug my DN and my RMX in my laptop, everything works fine : Led feedback from my 2 controllers, MIDI controls,etc. But after a while, the Led feedback isn't working anymore and freezes with the controls that were active, like the loops and cues. If, for example, Deck A was playing, the green LED play/pause wouldn't light up as for the first 5-10 min, when everything was fine. I tried many things to fix this... i obviously changed the MIDI channels of my Hercules and I also tried different Midi mappings found on the web. (viper's one) Please help me! |
| Len Ladera 04.03.2011 | Awesome debug work. |
| Homer Selgado 03.03.2011 | Okay, I figured it out. It has to do with the hardware command that the Denon DN-SC2000 send out to update the LED status. Everytime the "Deck Change" button is pressed on this controller, the controller sends out "Send Monitor State" typr command. As part of the hard wired firmware, the 1'st cue button's LED flashes orange until updated with what its state should be from witchever program its being accessed by when the unit is swithed from deck B to deck A, and the 2'nd cue button's LED flashes with the same conditions when the unit is switched from deck A to deck B. When I DO NOT have Traktor running, but the Denon is connected to my computer, it illuminated (dimm) a number of LED's as part of the basic firmware setup. When I press the deck change button, and Traktor is not running, the unit switches the decks, and it also sends its "Send Monitor State" command. As it has no program to respond to that command, the corresponding Cue LED to the Deck that the unit is changing too will blink about 4-5 times, then goes back to a dim state when it recieves no response. As a test I removed all .tsi's from traktor and created one blank "Generic MIDI" .tsi, and set it's in and out ports to my Denon. Now, when connected to traktor, everytime the Deck Change button is pressed, the Cue LED's blink, and return to dimm as they should, but for some reason the "Key Lock" buttons LED begins to flash, and unfortunatly it NEVER returns to the "off" state it should be, as the .tsi is absolutly blank, and Key Lock was off in Traktor. This is why in ANY of my mappings, when I use the Deck Change button, the DN-SC2000's hardware command gets a return from traktor, and that return is somehow grabbing the "Key Lock" LED and setting it to flash. And even MORE unfortuantly, when I have the stock Denon 2-Deck .tsi as the only .tsi in Traktor (for testing pruposes), even if I have Key Lock "ON" on both decks, the LED will respond properly for the Key Lock state, UNTIL I press the Change Deck button. When I do, the DN-SC2000's hardware LED command ALWAYS superceeds the Key Lock state, and the LED status "ON" or "OFF" message that Traktor should be sending to my DN-SC2000, and as a result the Key Lock button's LED just sits there flashing. SO ANNOYING. But I found a fix! You have to "Add In" these two Commands: "Send Monitor State" - Ch01.Note.D#-1 - Button Option: Invert (Check this Box) "Send Monitor State" - CH02.Note.D#-1 - Button Option: Invert (Check this Box) So you are telling Traktor to "Send Monitor State" (Tells Traktor to send a message to the controller about the status of all controls, and tells the controller to refresh its LED's to the status Traktor just sent) everytime you press the "Deck Change" button. You have to set it to "Invert", because if you dont, the Denon will send its command at the same time Traktor does the "Send Monitor State", and the denon hardware command will always superceed. SO when its inverted and you press the button down the hardware level command does its thing, and generally screws shit up. But the when you release the button back up, Traktor fires of the "Send Monitor State" and refreshes all the LED's properly. ...sometimes when you press the button to fast they both fire too close to eachother and the hardware one superceeds Traktor, but I have to tap the button pretty quick to get that to happen. If I give a normal press (not like a rapid fire tap) it always works beutifully. Now the only probelm with this fix is: In order to have a controller use the "Send Monitor State" command in a windows enviroment it WILL glitch your audio EVERY time you press that button and fire off that command. Fortunatly! "St8upDrew" (community member, search "I need Beta Testers") A community member (above) has created a beta program that routes the MIDI commands to and from Traktor in a far more efficient manner, and it COMPLETELY solves the audio glitch created by "Send Monitor State". Alright, I realize that was a lot of text, but I hope this helps anyone else out there pulling their hair out over this controller. Cheers! |
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