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iPad/ TouchOSC crew, if you aren't using this beast you are missing out!
Posted on: 04.07.2011 by Romelia Stankard
I figure if I'm willing to spend ~$30 for osculator and touchosc then I can afford $9 for the craziest mapping ever for the iPad. I believe this is up there with the most comprehensive map I have seen for ANY controller complete with full control over beat grids and advanced functions.

I went out and ordered it and it has been blowing my mind for the past 3 hours. Whether you use it alone or with a mixer it's nuts. I mean this thing is 13 pages/layouts all in one template. Worth every penny. Setup was totally painless and it works perfectly.

I'm sure I'm late to this and some of you have seen it but...



























http://ipad-dj.noelc.com/ipad-dj/4-d...r-control.html
Chae Fugle
25.07.2011
Originally Posted by sfunk
For you S4 users, here is a great simple layout to utilize the sample decks. Sadly I can't use it because it uses osculator and I use core midi but I really, really, really wish I could.

Check it out HERE
I tried to convert this to core midi but got lost about a third of the way through, probably because I'm new to this stuff.
Ok Moroski
24.07.2011
Originally Posted by mixographer
Has anyone started converting this to MIDI? I bought it believeing it would work with MIDI. That'll teach me to read the docs first. I'm going to dig in and start trying to convert it, unless someone's already started.

thanks.
Think that's what OSCulator is for.
Jannette Thieneman
19.07.2011
Originally Posted by Hippie
I believe it's possible with a jailbroken iPad and cydia app usually used for wifi tethering via a USB connection altho I'm not sure whether you need a camera kit for that or not.

I'm using a camera kit, 2 USB to midi leads and a pair of midi to midi adapters
Confirm its working even without camera connection kit.
Irwin Ney
11.07.2011
Originally Posted by nem0nic
The cable connection feature is just CoreMIDI, and you can't just run an iPad cable to your computer and get a MIDI interface. You still need some kind of software running to interpret the network data and turn it around to MIDI. So both programs work the same way in that regard.
But with the rptMidi (on Windows) would be possible to send midi messages from TouchOSC to Traktor with the standard cable?
How does MidiTouch? What kind of software allows them to do it?

Originally Posted by nem0nic
I didn't like using wireless or being on battery power either, so I picked up an Alesis IODock to use. It acts as a MIDI and audio interface, plus it powers the iPad. The IODock totally changes the experience of using the iPad for more professional applications.
Really cool dock but a bit overkill to me, I believe... I still don't need all those features. I just want to have a reliable connection between my iPad and my dell notebook.

Originally Posted by nem0nic
I believe as long as you're wireless (in any form) you run the risk of dropping packets.
In my case is not a risk, it's a fact I'm loosing cue drops, FXs releases, led feedback, etc... I'm loosing about 5% of the messages, I believe...
Loralee Erban
01.08.2011
Anyone know about mapping multi fadders?? Ive always used singles but multi seems to look nicer with a sleek frame around it, how do I get it to send multiple values for the sample decks, I need 8 faders but how to I get 8 different values on the multi fader?
Irwin Ney
26.07.2011
This is the best way to learn man, keep it going and you will able to do your own interface the next time you try it
Chae Fugle
25.07.2011
Originally Posted by sfunk
For you S4 users, here is a great simple layout to utilize the sample decks. Sadly I can't use it because it uses osculator and I use core midi but I really, really, really wish I could.

Check it out HERE
I tried to convert this to core midi but got lost about a third of the way through, probably because I'm new to this stuff.
Chae Fugle
25.07.2011
If someone does dig in and converts it, do it on a different channel like 10 or 11 or something that way it won't interfere when switching between mappings.
Latesha Mayorga
24.07.2011
That's true, but osculator costs money, and adds one more program in the stack. I'd rather have touch OSC send midi straight to traktor.
Ok Moroski
24.07.2011
Originally Posted by mixographer
Has anyone started converting this to MIDI? I bought it believeing it would work with MIDI. That'll teach me to read the docs first. I'm going to dig in and start trying to convert it, unless someone's already started.

thanks.
Think that's what OSCulator is for.
Latesha Mayorga
24.07.2011
Has anyone started converting this to MIDI? I bought it believeing it would work with MIDI. That'll teach me to read the docs first. I'm going to dig in and start trying to convert it, unless someone's already started.

thanks.
Jannette Thieneman
19.07.2011
Originally Posted by Hippie
I believe it's possible with a jailbroken iPad and cydia app usually used for wifi tethering via a USB connection altho I'm not sure whether you need a camera kit for that or not.

I'm using a camera kit, 2 USB to midi leads and a pair of midi to midi adapters
Confirm its working even without camera connection kit.
Chae Fugle
12.07.2011
If anyone knows how to map it for coremidi, i'd be willing to give them an advertising incentive on my Music website that gets 3500+ visitors a day.
Chae Fugle
12.07.2011
For you S4 users, here is a great simple layout to utilize the sample decks. Sadly I can't use it because it uses osculator and I use core midi but I really, really, really wish I could.

Check it out HERE
Jetta Drenzek
12.07.2011
The jogwheels, how do they work?

I'm not expecting scratchy scratchy, obviously, but I've tried rigging up a simple wheel for aligning tracks, but I just can't do it!
Tania Somppi
12.07.2011
Feedback on everything (sad as I am, I quite like the intricacies of mapping the outputs lol). I use multiple controllers with some functions duplicated so when I move a slider or activate something with my SCS3Ds or BCD2000 the iPad mapping updates to match.

I'm not noticing any latency or dropped messages.

The only problem I have is a known Traktor one, when selecting FX it sometimes slurs the audio.
Irwin Ney
12.07.2011
Do you use a midi feedback on faders?
This setup introduce a lot of latency from the moment you slide the fader to the moment the software send the position back to you?
Tania Somppi
11.07.2011
I believe it's possible with a jailbroken iPad and cydia app usually used for wifi tethering via a USB connection altho I'm not sure whether you need a camera kit for that or not.

I'm using a camera kit, 2 USB to midi leads and a pair of midi to midi adapters
Diogo Dj Dragão
11.07.2011
But with the rptMidi (on Windows) would be possible to send midi messages from TouchOSC to Traktor with the standard cable?
How does MidiTouch? What kind of software allows them to do it?
I don't know of any way to make the iPad connect to the computer via the standard cable and show up as a MIDI device. They can both (through CoreMIDI) connect via the camera connection kit to hardware.

The problem is that the iPad isn't recognized as a MIDI device by the computer it's connected to. That's why all of these wireless solutions involve some sort of virtual MIDI port (either built into the app or an additional app). The virtual port gives applications a MIDI port to attach to.

Honestly, you could go with a camera connection kit and something like an M-Audio Uno and it would work, but you'd need a MIDI capable interface to plug into (like an Audio 8 DJ). I used that same setup for a long time before I did the IODock.
Irwin Ney
11.07.2011
Originally Posted by nem0nic
The cable connection feature is just CoreMIDI, and you can't just run an iPad cable to your computer and get a MIDI interface. You still need some kind of software running to interpret the network data and turn it around to MIDI. So both programs work the same way in that regard.
But with the rptMidi (on Windows) would be possible to send midi messages from TouchOSC to Traktor with the standard cable?
How does MidiTouch? What kind of software allows them to do it?

Originally Posted by nem0nic
I didn't like using wireless or being on battery power either, so I picked up an Alesis IODock to use. It acts as a MIDI and audio interface, plus it powers the iPad. The IODock totally changes the experience of using the iPad for more professional applications.
Really cool dock but a bit overkill to me, I believe... I still don't need all those features. I just want to have a reliable connection between my iPad and my dell notebook.

Originally Posted by nem0nic
I believe as long as you're wireless (in any form) you run the risk of dropping packets.
In my case is not a risk, it's a fact I'm loosing cue drops, FXs releases, led feedback, etc... I'm loosing about 5% of the messages, I believe...
Diogo Dj Dragão
11.07.2011
It's really anoying and makes me wanna use MidiTouch instead of TouchOSC because of the cable connection feature...
The cable connection feature is just CoreMIDI, and you can't just run an iPad cable to your computer and get a MIDI interface. You still need some kind of software running to interpret the network data and turn it around to MIDI. So both programs work the same way in that regard.

I didn't like using wireless or being on battery power either, so I picked up an Alesis IODock to use. It acts as a MIDI and audio interface, plus it powers the iPad. The IODock totally changes the experience of using the iPad for more professional applications. If you're really wanting to go MIDI crazy, there is also the iConnect MIDI, which adds a LOT more MIDI I/O, but doesn't have any audio.

I believe as long as you're wireless (in any form) you run the risk of dropping packets.
Irwin Ney
11.07.2011
nem0, I'm experiencing some loss on midi notes send/recieved with touchosc and a ad-hoc wifi network created with connectify on a Windows 7 Dell Vostro laptop.
Do you know what I have to tweak to stop loosing those MIDI Notes?
It's really anoying and makes me wanna use MidiTouch instead of TouchOSC because of the cable connection feature...
Diogo Dj Dragão
11.07.2011
Just a heads up for the thread - I just got an email from Noel and a MIDI version of the mapping is being worked on now. Very nice!
Diogo Dj Dragão
11.07.2011
+1 for a MIDI version. I have the Alesis IODock now, and the idea of needing to rebuild the TouchOSC template to xmit MIDI instead of OSC makes me want to drop it alltogether and move to MIDI Touch.
Irwin Ney
11.07.2011
Why is that xonetacular?

With rptMidi it works like plug and play, and there is no translation into Osculator or Perfect Data...
Romelia Stankard
11.07.2011
If you make a coremidi version please don't stop putting out an osculator version. Osculator is quicker to setup, get running, and more reliable IMO.
Laurel Litchko
11.07.2011
I've been using this mapping at my last few gigs. Has gotten so e serious attention from crowd, other Djs, and the touring acts we've brought in. Thanks for the awesome mapping Noel!
Irwin Ney
08.07.2011
Originally Posted by noeluk
Dude! Thanks for the props :-) Really pleased you like it - it took a long time to design and map.

I'm currently working on a CoreMidi version that won't need OSCulator for most functions so PC users can get involved too.

Any ideas for new features gladly received!

[email protected] / ipad-dj.net
I'm waiting on this version with CoreMidi

Congrats for this mapping.

And a question: can you send any MIDI function when switching pages?
I would love that feature.

I currently have a page for trackbrowsing and other for grid functions on my mapping and I would love to change the Traktor layout when I change a page, can it be done?
Ok Moroski
05.07.2011
Yeah well I'd rather chew glass than try to scratch on an iPad anyway sooo...
Romelia Stankard
05.07.2011
One thing though, I can't get the platter thing to scratch or anything...
Ok Moroski
05.07.2011
The fx layouts look nice. Good find.
Nedra Normand
05.07.2011
Dude! Thanks for the props :-) Really pleased you like it - it took a long time to design and map.

I'm currently working on a CoreMidi version that won't need OSCulator for most functions so PC users can get involved too.

Any ideas for new features gladly received!

[email protected] / ipad-dj.net

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