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Help mapping ACP40 with Traktor pro 2
Posted on: 11.09.2011 by Oren Arizola
I am mapping my APC40 with Traktor pro 2(which of course I will share once completed) but I am having some issue to map the EQ Knobs and I hope someone could help me.

I
Oren Arizola
13.09.2011
Hi mate. Finally I found the solution for this and it's very simple but needs to use an additional Modifier.

First to try to explain let go back to scenario 1 and scenario 3. (1st post)

Scenario 1 we have LED update, but crazy behavior.
Scenario 3 we have correct behavior but no LED update

The difference between these scenarios is EQ High OUT assign to Ch01 CC48, this is responsible for the LED update, but also is the cause of the crazy behavior. So the solution is making this OUT
Oren Arizola
12.09.2011
Hi Mate, I was trying to using the Device Control last evening and I figured out myself that it wouldn
Oren Arizola
12.09.2011
Hi mate, thanks for the response. But that
Aimee Dacey
12.09.2011
Originally Posted by and_leite
I am mapping my APC40 with Traktor pro 2(which of course I will share once completed) but I am having some issue to map the EQ Knobs and I hope someone could help me.

I
Oren Arizola
11.09.2011
I am mapping my APC40 with Traktor pro 2(which of course I will share once completed) but I am having some issue to map the EQ Knobs and I hope someone could help me.

I
Oren Arizola
13.09.2011
Hi mate. Finally I found the solution for this and it's very simple but needs to use an additional Modifier.

First to try to explain let go back to scenario 1 and scenario 3. (1st post)

Scenario 1 we have LED update, but crazy behavior.
Scenario 3 we have correct behavior but no LED update

The difference between these scenarios is EQ High OUT assign to Ch01 CC48, this is responsible for the LED update, but also is the cause of the crazy behavior. So the solution is making this OUT
Oren Arizola
12.09.2011
Hi Mate, I was trying to using the Device Control last evening and I figured out myself that it wouldn
Oren Arizola
12.09.2011
Hi mate, thanks for the response. But that
Aimee Dacey
12.09.2011
Originally Posted by and_leite
I am mapping my APC40 with Traktor pro 2(which of course I will share once completed) but I am having some issue to map the EQ Knobs and I hope someone could help me.

I
Oren Arizola
11.09.2011
I am mapping my APC40 with Traktor pro 2(which of course I will share once completed) but I am having some issue to map the EQ Knobs and I hope someone could help me.

I
Oren Arizola
13.09.2011
Hi mate. Finally I found the solution for this and it's very simple but needs to use an additional Modifier.

First to try to explain let go back to scenario 1 and scenario 3. (1st post)

Scenario 1 we have LED update, but crazy behavior.
Scenario 3 we have correct behavior but no LED update

The difference between these scenarios is EQ High OUT assign to Ch01 CC48, this is responsible for the LED update, but also is the cause of the crazy behavior. So the solution is making this OUT
Oren Arizola
12.09.2011
Hi Mate, I was trying to using the Device Control last evening and I figured out myself that it wouldn
Oren Arizola
12.09.2011
Hi mate, thanks for the response. But that
Aimee Dacey
12.09.2011
Originally Posted by and_leite
I am mapping my APC40 with Traktor pro 2(which of course I will share once completed) but I am having some issue to map the EQ Knobs and I hope someone could help me.

I
Oren Arizola
11.09.2011
I am mapping my APC40 with Traktor pro 2(which of course I will share once completed) but I am having some issue to map the EQ Knobs and I hope someone could help me.

I
Aimee Dacey
15.09.2011
I just read extra modifier and thought holy Cow... why haven't I thought of this!?!?

Very very very smart! Indeed.

Kudos!
Oren Arizola
13.09.2011
Hi mate. Finally I found the solution for this and it's very simple but needs to use an additional Modifier.

First to try to explain let go back to scenario 1 and scenario 3. (1st post)

Scenario 1 we have LED update, but crazy behavior.
Scenario 3 we have correct behavior but no LED update

The difference between these scenarios is EQ High OUT assign to Ch01 CC48, this is responsible for the LED update, but also is the cause of the crazy behavior. So the solution is making this OUT
Aimee Dacey
13.09.2011
Yes,

Let's hope NI fixes this bug in an update soon. It beats me too why the filter LED would work for the sample slots but not the mixer area.
I also found mixing working and non-working LEDs will break the whole update feature too.
Also, I have tried making m1-0 and m1-1 two different maps but it still doesn't work.
So if you want to have one knob do several tasks with updates makes sure that the mixer and everything else is mapped separately.
Oren Arizola
12.09.2011
Hi Mate, I was trying to using the Device Control last evening and I figured out myself that it wouldn
Aimee Dacey
12.09.2011
Man... I managed to accidentally push backspace...
No way I'm gonna write that again...

Anyway to write a shorter post.

I am testing every possibility now.


I have found out that Device control and Track control work the same, so it's not akai (the hardwares fault).
The problems stems from Traktors internal mixer which for some reason doesn't accept In and Out being mapped to the same knob... so my standard way of led ring update doesn't work..

I am trying to find a work around for that.

SO to say it again... This is a problem with Traktor and NOT the Apc as I previously thought.

Ps. I'll keep this thread updated with any new finds I make...

(Oh and I will soon be out with a polished version of my Apc40 mapping... It's just awesome!.. if I might say it myself)


EDIT:
No luck! There are four ways one can solve the problem... In a somewhat satisfactory way.

1. (my current solution) Is to reset the LED when you switch control for that knob, and let the knob reset to the LEDs position upon touch. E.g. You have a knob mapped to EQ high and filter, when switching from EQ to filter, regardless of previous position the LED will reset, and regardless of the filters current position the knob will also reset upon movement.

2. Is to do the same but, have the knobs on soft takeover. So the led ring resets but you have to move the knob to the position in the software for you to gain control over it.

3. To have no LED updates and soft takeover. That means you will not have the ring update at all and have all knobs on soft takeover.

4. Probably the best solution... To get an external mixer and screw Traktors internal one = More mappable functions for the APC! (next on my list at least!)

To have the LEDs reset properly as described in solution one and two.
Make a send monitor state for the physical knob (say you have A EQ high on cc48, then map EQ high out on cc56 with control 0-1 midi out 3-3, and a Send monitor state on cc48 with control 0-1 and midi out 63-63).
The 63-63 means the middle led light. So if you want the rings to reset to another light you can just change the values from 0-127... It is the lowest value that matter so 63-127 still makes it reset at 63.)

Hope that was understandable... And it is regrettable that Traktor doesn't function as well as it should...
Oren Arizola
12.09.2011
Hi mate, thanks for the response. But that
Aimee Dacey
12.09.2011
Originally Posted by and_leite
I am mapping my APC40 with Traktor pro 2(which of course I will share once completed) but I am having some issue to map the EQ Knobs and I hope someone could help me.

I

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