Large TSI causing TP2 to be sloooow- normal?
Large TSI causing TP2 to be sloooow- normal? Posted on: 26.09.2011 by Rey Holubar Hi,I've been working on a Traktor mapping for the Machine and it is almost finished. However, the more it grows (it now has 6MB+), the slower the configuration window and switching between the midi devices gets. I have now 8 or 9 different devices defined and it now takes like 20+ seconds for the Preferences window to come up or to switch between devices. I have set up different parts of the mapping in different devices all pointing to the machine (which seems to work). Is this slowness normal behavior and is separating functionality in different device definitions a bad idea in any way? I couldn't imagine putting all the mappings in one device definition. I believe I'd go batty trying to map that way. Any experienced help with mapping in Traktor would be greatly appreciated. scamo | |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 07.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by scamo
must be one of the easier areas of their code to fix. |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 06.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by scamo
also ofc they should improve the actual controller editor tho that might encourage even more complicated mappings - so i believe they should solve the other issue first |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 04.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by tyfurious
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| Chasidy Heckenbach 01.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by scamo
That is because I have used the devices to keep logical order of the different functions of each button page and knob set for the Machine. I asked in my last mail, if that isn't the right way to manage so many commands, what is? Everything in one device? I said, that would be practically impossible.
I'm just hoping they'll see that the controller manager could use some rebelieveing for very large controller mappings and might take it up to improve it in the future. Crossing my fingers.... scamo out of all the functional areas within traktor surely this has to be the easiest of all to improve???? no need to worry about real time performance etc, it's just a fricking editor window. how hard can it be to improve that? maybe that xtreme mapping app popping up has made them believe more about it? if i was a mac user i would get it - but as not i'd like to believe that app has helped to raise their awareness of the issues a bit more if people are willing to shell out extra cash to improve them... |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 07.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by scamo
must be one of the easier areas of their code to fix. |
| Rey Holubar 07.10.2011 | Yeah. In my last mail to them I also mentioned the fact the editor/ manager is unweildy, in that you can't see all of the mapping fields. In other words, I'd actually like to see the controller editor in its own window and not all squished up in the preferences window. scamo |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 06.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by scamo
also ofc they should improve the actual controller editor tho that might encourage even more complicated mappings - so i believe they should solve the other issue first |
| Rey Holubar 07.10.2011 | Ok, good news and worth posting. From NI's support about this issue.
Thanks again for sharing your insight and opinions on this issue. In the scenario that you have described with examples, we can observe a lag in response when accessing the Preferences panel and switching devices in Control Manager. The development has been notified about this and will further look into it. Please feel free to provide more input as we always welcome improvement requests and observations from our users.
scamo |
| Rey Holubar 06.10.2011 | Looks like I've (we've) got some attention (as I've been linking to this thread and one on NI's Forum too). The support person is taking this issue to the "DJ Support Team" and I should be getting an answer in a couple of days as to any course of action. Crossing fingers. scamo |
| Rey Holubar 05.10.2011 | Nope, you probably wouldn't. But it doesn't excuse the fact that this issue still sucks for those who want to do more with their controllers and more and more people are getting into more "devices". Like tyfurious' setup. OMG! :eek: scamo |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 04.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by tyfurious
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| Gilma Marchini 04.10.2011 | Yes, I even get some audio dropouts because of it. Probably because of all the LED outs on my Livid Code. This should be fixed, although it doesn't bother my DJing experience if I don't open the preferences. |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 01.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by scamo
That is because I have used the devices to keep logical order of the different functions of each button page and knob set for the Machine. I asked in my last mail, if that isn't the right way to manage so many commands, what is? Everything in one device? I said, that would be practically impossible.
I'm just hoping they'll see that the controller manager could use some rebelieveing for very large controller mappings and might take it up to improve it in the future. Crossing my fingers.... scamo out of all the functional areas within traktor surely this has to be the easiest of all to improve???? no need to worry about real time performance etc, it's just a fricking editor window. how hard can it be to improve that? maybe that xtreme mapping app popping up has made them believe more about it? if i was a mac user i would get it - but as not i'd like to believe that app has helped to raise their awareness of the issues a bit more if people are willing to shell out extra cash to improve them... |
| Rey Holubar 01.10.2011 | They said "I don't see any use for these other than cramming up mappings for 9 different controllers" That is because I have used the devices to keep logical order of the different functions of each button page and knob set for the Machine. I asked in my last mail, if that isn't the right way to manage so many commands, what is? Everything in one device? I said, that would be practically impossible. I'm just hoping they'll see that the controller manager could use some rebelieveing for very large controller mappings and might take it up to improve it in the future. Crossing my fingers.... scamo |
| robin loo 30.09.2011 | they told you your tsi was practically useless?? |
| Rey Holubar 30.09.2011 | Well, I got an answer from NI. It isn't really what any of us want to hear. I'm not even going to post it, as it would be just a waste of your all's time reading it. I've written them back to tell them what my "practically useless" TSI is all about, why I want it working smoothly and that it does make some sense, at least to me it does. I'll keep you up to date, if and when I get more responses. scamo |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 30.09.2011 |
Originally Posted by scamo
i never thought to contact them - assumed it was normal |
| Rey Holubar 30.09.2011 | FYI - NI's support answered and asked for my TSI. I've sent it to them. scamo |
| Chasidy Heckenbach 26.09.2011 | same here - i only have 581 items in my main tsi but it takes several seconds to switch between tsi's in the mapping window now. it's a pain but i rarely edit them anyway now i use my midimasher for everything |
| Rey Holubar 26.09.2011 | You would believe that as more and more complicated controllers get on the market, this issue will get worse too. I'll write a ticket to NI and see what they say about it. scamo |
| Nedra Fresneda 26.09.2011 | This has been happening since the days of Traktor 1, it's not a Traktor 2 specific one (this doesn't mean it doesn't suck ) |
| robin loo 26.09.2011 | same here.. i merged some TSIs so it has more or less normal loading time.. |
| Leeanna Ayla 26.09.2011 | I can confirm your research findings. |
| Rey Holubar 27.09.2011 | Went searching some more. Looks like it is normal and also not liked. http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...ng+preferences scamo |
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