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Multiple mapping states for one controller
Posted on: 16.11.2011 by Lahoma Flatebo
Hey Guys,

I've been wondering if it is possible to have multiple mappings for one controller. What I mean by this is for example having instant gratification and then having hot cues and sample launchers. I haven't really messed around with this yet, just believeing about it in theory. Would it be best to use modifiers? (That would get really, really cluttered though) or would it be better to switch my device to another midi channel and do it that way? (This might not be convenient unless there is a quick way to switch midi channels with out going into the option)

I personally use a MPD26, but I'm wondering how it would work out on other devices as well.

Has anyone attempted this? I just might not have dug in the archives deep enough.


Henri
Chasidy Heckenbach
04.01.2012
Originally Posted by drmore
Osx does not require a serial to install.

here is a guide i found to install in vmware.
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-ins...ows-7-9140301/
awesome and if i do try a an install in vmware etc i won't feel too too bad as hopefully getting a macbook soon anyway.

or you could install some form of osx86 to a spare harddrive
http://www.osx86project.org/
i did look at that - but it didn't seem that either of my 2 spare laptops were compatible enough. tho i might just give it a try on them - have a couple of spare drives that should do.

i used to know someone who was "Dr More" tho he may have spelt his surname "moore" i guess...
Chasidy Heckenbach
02.01.2012
Originally Posted by drmore
As far as im aware apple dont supply licences for users to run their OS on anything other than apple hardware.
sure... i had a nasty feeling that was the case...

However there is nothing physically stopping you installing a copy in a virtual machine if you have access to a installation disk.
doesn't the install process require a serial number?

i'm actually probably "going mac" and i believe the traktor pro2 license would allow me to keep one install on my pc and install another on the mac? i believe it allows u to install 2 copies and i could just download the mac version?
Chasidy Heckenbach
18.11.2011
Originally Posted by Henrimartel
DEAR GOD!!!

dude we need to get you a mac ASAP! I run my sessions on a mac and your software sounds like the solution to all my problems.
cheers lol. if i can get a license for osx somehow then i'm sure running it in a virtual session would work. it seemed a bit pricey last time i looked.
Chasidy Heckenbach
17.11.2011
Originally Posted by Taxable fern
Have you made a thread about it?I like the idea, I am sure we can get a Mac programmer interested.
i don't need a mac coder, i need access to a mac. i just need to be able to compile+test. in theory it should work without any changes might need a few tweaks.

community thread is in my sig.
King Mascarinas
17.11.2011
Originally Posted by zestoi
it's my own software. it's free and the download/install link is in my sig. windows only tho atm until i get access to a mac somehow.

i should be releasing a new version this weekend, which will then include the function you'll need set_device_route()

would probably take about a 10 line config file to get it doing what you need.
Have you made a thread about it?I like the idea, I am sure we can get a Mac programmer interested.
Chasidy Heckenbach
17.11.2011
Originally Posted by Henrimartel
This midimasher sounds like it can be the solution to all my problems. is it third party software? where can i find it and how exactly would i go about setting it up?


Thanks,

Henri
it's my own software. it's free and the download/install link is in my sig. windows only tho atm until i get access to a mac somehow.

i should be releasing a new version this weekend, which will then include the function you'll need set_device_route()

would probably take about a 10 line config file to get it doing what you need.
Chasidy Heckenbach
16.11.2011
Originally Posted by Henrimartel
Hey Guys,

I've been wondering if it is possible to have multiple mappings for one controller. What I mean by this is for example having instant gratification and then having hot cues and sample launchers. I haven't really messed around with this yet, just believeing about it in theory. Would it be best to use modifiers? (That would get really, really cluttered though) or would it be better to switch my device to another midi channel and do it that way? (This might not be convenient unless there is a quick way to switch midi channels with out going into the option)

I personally use a MPD26, but I'm wondering how it would work out on other devices as well.

Has anyone attempted this? I just might not have dug in the archives deep enough.


Henri
you can't switch or enable/disable them on the fly. you'd either need to merge them all into one tsi and then add an extra modifier to every control or use some middleware software to change the midi channel sent to/from the device as u suggested.

midimasher could be used to switch the midi channels or even simpler by creating multiple devices and have midimasher change which virtual midi port it routes the data to.

the new function set_device_route() in midimasher just passes data from any midi port to any other midi port and could be called on a button press etc to change which port it gets sent to.
Lahoma Flatebo
16.11.2011		Hey Guys,

I've been wondering if it is possible to have multiple mappings for one controller. What I mean by this is for example having instant gratification and then having hot cues and sample launchers. I haven't really messed around with this yet, just believeing about it in theory. Would it be best to use modifiers? (That would get really, really cluttered though) or would it be better to switch my device to another midi channel and do it that way? (This might not be convenient unless there is a quick way to switch midi channels with out going into the option)

I personally use a MPD26, but I'm wondering how it would work out on other devices as well.

Has anyone attempted this? I just might not have dug in the archives deep enough.


Henri
Tawna Ulmen
04.01.2012		Sadly im not and actual doctor. and more is only part of my surname.

Looking forward to seeing a mac version of midimasher.
Chasidy Heckenbach
04.01.2012
Originally Posted by drmore
Osx does not require a serial to install.

here is a guide i found to install in vmware.
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-ins...ows-7-9140301/
awesome and if i do try a an install in vmware etc i won't feel too too bad as hopefully getting a macbook soon anyway.

or you could install some form of osx86 to a spare harddrive
http://www.osx86project.org/
i did look at that - but it didn't seem that either of my 2 spare laptops were compatible enough. tho i might just give it a try on them - have a couple of spare drives that should do.

i used to know someone who was "Dr More" tho he may have spelt his surname "moore" i guess...
Tawna Ulmen
04.01.2012		Osx does not require a serial to install.
here is a guide i found to install in vmware.
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-ins...ows-7-9140301/

or you could install some form of osx86 to a spare harddrive
http://www.osx86project.org/
Chasidy Heckenbach
02.01.2012
Originally Posted by drmore
As far as im aware apple dont supply licences for users to run their OS on anything other than apple hardware.
sure... i had a nasty feeling that was the case...

However there is nothing physically stopping you installing a copy in a virtual machine if you have access to a installation disk.
doesn't the install process require a serial number?

i'm actually probably "going mac" and i believe the traktor pro2 license would allow me to keep one install on my pc and install another on the mac? i believe it allows u to install 2 copies and i could just download the mac version?
Tawna Ulmen
02.01.2012		As far as im aware apple dont supply licences for users to run their OS on anything other than apple hardware.

However there is nothing physically stopping you installing a copy in a virtual machine if you have access to a installation disk.
Chasidy Heckenbach
18.11.2011
Originally Posted by Henrimartel
DEAR GOD!!!

dude we need to get you a mac ASAP! I run my sessions on a mac and your software sounds like the solution to all my problems.
cheers lol. if i can get a license for osx somehow then i'm sure running it in a virtual session would work. it seemed a bit pricey last time i looked.
Lahoma Flatebo
18.11.2011		DEAR GOD!!!

dude we need to get you a mac ASAP! I run my sessions on a mac and your software sounds like the solution to all my problems.
Chasidy Heckenbach
17.11.2011
Originally Posted by Taxable fern
Have you made a thread about it?I like the idea, I am sure we can get a Mac programmer interested.
i don't need a mac coder, i need access to a mac. i just need to be able to compile+test. in theory it should work without any changes might need a few tweaks.

community thread is in my sig.
King Mascarinas
17.11.2011
Originally Posted by zestoi
it's my own software. it's free and the download/install link is in my sig. windows only tho atm until i get access to a mac somehow.

i should be releasing a new version this weekend, which will then include the function you'll need set_device_route()

would probably take about a 10 line config file to get it doing what you need.
Have you made a thread about it?I like the idea, I am sure we can get a Mac programmer interested.
Chasidy Heckenbach
17.11.2011
Originally Posted by Henrimartel
This midimasher sounds like it can be the solution to all my problems. is it third party software? where can i find it and how exactly would i go about setting it up?


Thanks,

Henri
it's my own software. it's free and the download/install link is in my sig. windows only tho atm until i get access to a mac somehow.

i should be releasing a new version this weekend, which will then include the function you'll need set_device_route()

would probably take about a 10 line config file to get it doing what you need.
Lahoma Flatebo
17.11.2011		This midimasher sounds like it can be the solution to all my problems. is it third party software? where can i find it and how exactly would i go about setting it up?


Thanks,

Henri
Chasidy Heckenbach
16.11.2011
Originally Posted by Henrimartel
Hey Guys,

I've been wondering if it is possible to have multiple mappings for one controller. What I mean by this is for example having instant gratification and then having hot cues and sample launchers. I haven't really messed around with this yet, just believeing about it in theory. Would it be best to use modifiers? (That would get really, really cluttered though) or would it be better to switch my device to another midi channel and do it that way? (This might not be convenient unless there is a quick way to switch midi channels with out going into the option)

I personally use a MPD26, but I'm wondering how it would work out on other devices as well.

Has anyone attempted this? I just might not have dug in the archives deep enough.


Henri
you can't switch or enable/disable them on the fly. you'd either need to merge them all into one tsi and then add an extra modifier to every control or use some middleware software to change the midi channel sent to/from the device as u suggested.

midimasher could be used to switch the midi channels or even simpler by creating multiple devices and have midimasher change which virtual midi port it routes the data to.

the new function set_device_route() in midimasher just passes data from any midi port to any other midi port and could be called on a button press etc to change which port it gets sent to.

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