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VMS4 (everything's under control mapping)
Posted on: 12.01.2012 by Simona Schar
Here's the second version of my "everything is undercontrol' VMS4 mapping.
The mains features (at the moment) are :
  • 4 deck control
  • three modes (the switcher are ready, two modes are implemented
  • independant part of the controler switches
  • JogFX (four presets ATM), HUGE update on this version.
  • loop roll
  • clever browsing
  • echo freeze effect
  • sample deck mode focused on instant remixing,
  • and a lot more coming soon...


The incoming features are :
  • beatslicer,
  • instant FX ala Midifghter,
  • more JogFX presets...


You can see the UPDATED documentation http://=http://prezi.com/lybokhlu8ps...ng-manual/here

Cause the tsi file is too big for the community , here's a NEW download link :
http://minus.com/m0VvPQIGM#1

Enjoy!
Simona Schar
13.02.2012
It realy depends of what you want to do ne whhat are those two mappings:-$
Here's three basics questions you should ask yourself :
1 what are the similar functions between my two mappings, what do I have toi suppress.
2 is thre settings wich are gonna screw both mappings (modifier, fx settings,...)
3 do I have some other way to do it with only one controller?
Then, ou have toi draw and write a lot before doing anything.

I'm sorry I could only give those g
Simona Schar
31.01.2012
What do you mean by Not working properly?
I guess you read that this mapping is focused on controllerism and that I didn't map the vms4 jog on pitchbending or scratching intentionnaly.
If jogweel effects are off : jogweel moves the beatgrid. If jogfx are on, jogweels are mapped to manipulate fxs.
Do you have something different?
Btw, id you merged mappings with mine and share it on other plateforms, please consider the cc licence and show attribution or the next release will be the last.
D
Simona Schar
13.02.2012
It realy depends of what you want to do ne whhat are those two mappings:-$
Here's three basics questions you should ask yourself :
1 what are the similar functions between my two mappings, what do I have toi suppress.
2 is thre settings wich are gonna screw both mappings (modifier, fx settings,...)
3 do I have some other way to do it with only one controller?
Then, ou have toi draw and write a lot before doing anything.

I'm sorry I could only give those g
Simona Schar
31.01.2012
What do you mean by Not working properly?
I guess you read that this mapping is focused on controllerism and that I didn't map the vms4 jog on pitchbending or scratching intentionnaly.
If jogweel effects are off : jogweel moves the beatgrid. If jogfx are on, jogweels are mapped to manipulate fxs.
Do you have something different?
Btw, id you merged mappings with mine and share it on other plateforms, please consider the cc licence and show attribution or the next release will be the last.
D
Simona Schar
13.02.2012
It realy depends of what you want to do ne whhat are those two mappings:-$
Here's three basics questions you should ask yourself :
1 what are the similar functions between my two mappings, what do I have toi suppress.
2 is thre settings wich are gonna screw both mappings (modifier, fx settings,...)
3 do I have some other way to do it with only one controller?
Then, ou have toi draw and write a lot before doing anything.

I'm sorry I could only give those g
Simona Schar
31.01.2012
What do you mean by Not working properly?
I guess you read that this mapping is focused on controllerism and that I didn't map the vms4 jog on pitchbending or scratching intentionnaly.
If jogweel effects are off : jogweel moves the beatgrid. If jogfx are on, jogweels are mapped to manipulate fxs.
Do you have something different?
Btw, id you merged mappings with mine and share it on other plateforms, please consider the cc licence and show attribution or the next release will be the last.
D
Simona Schar
13.02.2012
It realy depends of what you want to do ne whhat are those two mappings:-$
Here's three basics questions you should ask yourself :
1 what are the similar functions between my two mappings, what do I have toi suppress.
2 is thre settings wich are gonna screw both mappings (modifier, fx settings,...)
3 do I have some other way to do it with only one controller?
Then, ou have toi draw and write a lot before doing anything.

I'm sorry I could only give those g
Simona Schar
31.01.2012
What do you mean by Not working properly?
I guess you read that this mapping is focused on controllerism and that I didn't map the vms4 jog on pitchbending or scratching intentionnaly.
If jogweel effects are off : jogweel moves the beatgrid. If jogfx are on, jogweels are mapped to manipulate fxs.
Do you have something different?
Btw, id you merged mappings with mine and share it on other plateforms, please consider the cc licence and show attribution or the next release will be the last.
D
Simona Schar
28.01.2012
Originally Posted by dubdevo
After a second look I found some things that I would change based on my personal taste.
Feel free, considering the CC Licence : Please give the credits for your mapping if you slightly modify it and share it. If not, I'll not publish the next versions and keep them to me.

Originally Posted by dubdevo
I like the different modes, and the led color mapping is awesome.
If you liked it, you'll like next version. I fixed some broken modifiers and worked a loooooot on the led mapping, making the layout clearer, and blinker... A hint : All channel as his own viewmeter with his own color considering if they are in loop or not or in red/purple/blue modes...


Originally Posted by dubdevo
Each mode seems to have a lot of the same functions....but I maybe able to modify them (I suck at modifiers LOL)

Also the effect preset mode is a little tricky, maybe you can explain how you did it so we can add our own.
I map common few functions on all mode so you can do a lot of common things without changing modes, but that if you wanna do something special, you'll have to change mode.

The fx preset mode is changing. Next version has fixed it.

If you suck at modifers, run away! there's something like 16 modifers in the mapping (and the only way I found to map more than 8 modifiers was to copy the 4 main modifiers in all the mappings, and to map 4 more modifiers in each mapping). If you want more info, please ask...

Originally Posted by dubdevo
The Jog wheel sensitivity is pretty much the best I have seen, so thats awesome, but Id love to see you add the ability to use the tempo fader with the jog wheels to control effects. Maybe take away loop control on one of the modes.
Jog wheel sensitivity was one of the thing I wanna realy work on. I tweak till I found that one rotation of the jog corresponds to 266% of the knob in relative mode. When you found that, you can do whatever you want...

Again feel free to modify. If you want to, don't forget to give credit and attribution if you share derivative work. I advices you to map this control on the touchstripes. I won't use it because I dislike the touch... So you could totaly use it without any modifiers problems.

Originally Posted by dubdevo
But if you are able to add more combos, maybe ean goldens, I would say give it a try. It seems like it always reverts back to the echo freeze combo....Im still getting the feel for it though.
I fixed a minor bug in the echo freeze, wich is the echo freeze from the midifighter.
I already map the classic beatmasher combo(retroengeneried, not copied),and working on the gater/lfo/lofi combo effect from instant grat' mapping.


Originally Posted by dubdevo
Thanks again for this mapping, Ill be checking for updates.
Next version 0.4 is done at 75%. Led mapping on the right size is ongoing. I'll publish it when it'll be ready.
Simona Schar
17.01.2012
Originally Posted by dubdevo
Been trying to get jog wheel effects mode to work for this thing....cant seem to get it right...
Try it and then explain me what you did and how it works. I'm gonna improve this feature as much as I can. As Vms4 jogs send message in a weird way, I map them with two reset (one by holding shift and turning the jog, then waiting the midi signal to be off, and the other by turning jogfx off and pressing the presets button, wich is also a "reset button").
Simona Schar
12.01.2012
Here's the second version of my "everything is undercontrol' VMS4 mapping.
The mains features (at the moment) are :
  • 4 deck control
  • three modes (the switcher are ready, two modes are implemented
  • independant part of the controler switches
  • JogFX (four presets ATM), HUGE update on this version.
  • loop roll
  • clever browsing
  • echo freeze effect
  • sample deck mode focused on instant remixing,
  • and a lot more coming soon...


The incoming features are :
  • beatslicer,
  • instant FX ala Midifghter,
  • more JogFX presets...


You can see the UPDATED documentation http://=http://prezi.com/lybokhlu8ps...ng-manual/here

Cause the tsi file is too big for the community , here's a NEW download link :
http://minus.com/m0VvPQIGM#1

Enjoy!
Simona Schar
13.02.2012
It realy depends of what you want to do ne whhat are those two mappings:-$
Here's three basics questions you should ask yourself :
1 what are the similar functions between my two mappings, what do I have toi suppress.
2 is thre settings wich are gonna screw both mappings (modifier, fx settings,...)
3 do I have some other way to do it with only one controller?
Then, ou have toi draw and write a lot before doing anything.

I'm sorry I could only give those g
Hellen Heelan
11.02.2012
To Just Friday, I really need your help i have a Working VMS4 that i use With VDJ and Traktor i just bouth a LPD8 to use in conjuntion with the VMS4 in Traktor to have a better control of everything but can not find a good presets + mapping for the LPD8 can you Help me and explain to me how add this new controller in traktor without messed up with mi actual mapp for the VMS4 thanks!!! [email protected]
Simona Schar
02.02.2012
Of course it's made for TP2. Itsad to write this humongous manual : http://prezi.com/ftb9k1wekpgo/vms4-c...ng-manual-v04/ and to see that nobody's reading it...
Nila Ragonese
02.02.2012
Random question... Does the VMS4 Traktor version come with Traktor ME aka 4 decks or just LE aka 2 deck and no hot cues?
Simona Schar
02.02.2012
New version is uploaded...
You can check the files on my facebook page there :
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Just-...49206558488073

Enjoy!!!

This time there's a huge update on leds mapping with VUmeter for each deck blinking in different ways wether you're in loop or not and you're in one mode or another...

Enjoy and show love!!!
Simona Schar
31.01.2012
What do you mean by Not working properly?
I guess you read that this mapping is focused on controllerism and that I didn't map the vms4 jog on pitchbending or scratching intentionnaly.
If jogweel effects are off : jogweel moves the beatgrid. If jogfx are on, jogweels are mapped to manipulate fxs.
Do you have something different?
Btw, id you merged mappings with mine and share it on other plateforms, please consider the cc licence and show attribution or the next release will be the last.
D
Karole Spooner
30.01.2012
I loaded Traktor Pro 2 for my VMS4.1 but the jog wheels are not working properly. Do you have mapping for Traktor Pro 2 for VMS4.1? I hope you can help. Thanks.
Simona Schar
28.01.2012
Originally Posted by dubdevo
After a second look I found some things that I would change based on my personal taste.
Feel free, considering the CC Licence : Please give the credits for your mapping if you slightly modify it and share it. If not, I'll not publish the next versions and keep them to me.

Originally Posted by dubdevo
I like the different modes, and the led color mapping is awesome.
If you liked it, you'll like next version. I fixed some broken modifiers and worked a loooooot on the led mapping, making the layout clearer, and blinker... A hint : All channel as his own viewmeter with his own color considering if they are in loop or not or in red/purple/blue modes...


Originally Posted by dubdevo
Each mode seems to have a lot of the same functions....but I maybe able to modify them (I suck at modifiers LOL)

Also the effect preset mode is a little tricky, maybe you can explain how you did it so we can add our own.
I map common few functions on all mode so you can do a lot of common things without changing modes, but that if you wanna do something special, you'll have to change mode.

The fx preset mode is changing. Next version has fixed it.

If you suck at modifers, run away! there's something like 16 modifers in the mapping (and the only way I found to map more than 8 modifiers was to copy the 4 main modifiers in all the mappings, and to map 4 more modifiers in each mapping). If you want more info, please ask...

Originally Posted by dubdevo
The Jog wheel sensitivity is pretty much the best I have seen, so thats awesome, but Id love to see you add the ability to use the tempo fader with the jog wheels to control effects. Maybe take away loop control on one of the modes.
Jog wheel sensitivity was one of the thing I wanna realy work on. I tweak till I found that one rotation of the jog corresponds to 266% of the knob in relative mode. When you found that, you can do whatever you want...

Again feel free to modify. If you want to, don't forget to give credit and attribution if you share derivative work. I advices you to map this control on the touchstripes. I won't use it because I dislike the touch... So you could totaly use it without any modifiers problems.

Originally Posted by dubdevo
But if you are able to add more combos, maybe ean goldens, I would say give it a try. It seems like it always reverts back to the echo freeze combo....Im still getting the feel for it though.
I fixed a minor bug in the echo freeze, wich is the echo freeze from the midifighter.
I already map the classic beatmasher combo(retroengeneried, not copied),and working on the gater/lfo/lofi combo effect from instant grat' mapping.


Originally Posted by dubdevo
Thanks again for this mapping, Ill be checking for updates.
Next version 0.4 is done at 75%. Led mapping on the right size is ongoing. I'll publish it when it'll be ready.
Courtney Miesbauer
28.01.2012
ok sorry i have been MIA on this. After a second look I found some things that I would change based on my personal taste.

I like the different modes, and the led color mapping is awesome.

Each mode seems to have a lot of the same functions....but I maybe able to modify them (I suck at modifiers LOL)

Also the effect preset mode is a little tricky, maybe you can explain how you did it so we can add our own.

The Jog wheel sensitivity is pretty much the best I have seen, so thats awesome, but Id love to see you add the ability to use the tempo fader with the jog wheels to control effects. Maybe take away loop control on one of the modes.

But if you are able to add more combos, maybe ean goldens, I would say give it a try. It seems like it always reverts back to the echo freeze combo....Im still getting the feel for it though.

Thanks again for this mapping, Ill be checking for updates.
Simona Schar
25.01.2012
Thanks a lot for the good apriori. There's a few bugs in it, especially concerning leds visualisation...

I actually rework on a clever way to design led indicators and improve the workflow this way...

Led mapping on the VMS4 is a PITA, but I have an idea everyboby might love (but it's a surprise
Chandra Lean
24.01.2012
definately have to try this out. I too wanted to make a jog fx mapping
Simona Schar
24.01.2012
fixed link for documentation :
http://prezi.com/lybokhlu8psn/vms4-c...apping-manual/
Simona Schar
18.01.2012
New version has arrived : Red mode is reday, more intuitive workflow on jogfx, fixed modifiers.
Simona Schar
18.01.2012
Wow... that's an hell of a feedback glad to see you like the mapping. I've fixed a few modifiers (one of the 14 modifers of the mapping, and the number will grow, as this is just the quarter of it).

Its sort of a complex mapping, so I really haven't gotten the full feel for it yet, but ive been waiting for a mapping like this.
When it will be over you'll see a lot of the reason why I splited the mapping in two parts : there's so much function that I wanted man can use on different decks in the same time.
Courtney Miesbauer
18.01.2012
out of the ballpark! The jog wheels respond great with your settings. Its sort of a complex mapping, so I really haven't gotten the full feel for it yet, but ive been waiting for a mapping like this. The one thing I would really like to see, is instead of the tempo faders being used for loops (which is a great idea btw) is using them to control one of the effects. Ill probably have more time to play with it later, Ill get back to you tomorrow after work....sorry I have strange work hours.
Leave it to the French! First one of my fav artists Justice, now you! The mapping god!!!! Thank you so much!!!!! I want to get use out of my VMS4, but its not the controller i thought it would be.
Oh and your manual on how to use it is awesome!!!!!!! Everybody should do that when they map a controller.
Ill post more tomorrow.
Simona Schar
17.01.2012
Originally Posted by dubdevo
Been trying to get jog wheel effects mode to work for this thing....cant seem to get it right...
Try it and then explain me what you did and how it works. I'm gonna improve this feature as much as I can. As Vms4 jogs send message in a weird way, I map them with two reset (one by holding shift and turning the jog, then waiting the midi signal to be off, and the other by turning jogfx off and pressing the presets button, wich is also a "reset button").
Courtney Miesbauer
17.01.2012
Im gonna give it a try when I get home. Been trying to get jog wheel effects mode to work for this thing....cant seem to get it right...
Simona Schar
17.01.2012
First version released!
Simona Schar
15.01.2012
Since the mapping functions goes on, I update the prezi of my VMS4 mapping in a more readable way... Hope it suits you. I have to fix some little issues, to map the hotcues (not realy hard compared to the rest ) and to had a third JogFX setting (gater->lofi->filter 92 with some buttons presets fir the gater) and I'll release a first beta, if anybody is interested in :

http://prezi.com/k_fiz2vju_ym/vms4-controlerist/

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