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[Traktor Suggestion] Modifier (Shift) keys on keyboard applying to controllers
Posted on: 21.04.2012 by Ethel Moraru
Hey guys,

Today I thought I would add an extra feature to one of my M-AUDIO X-Session Pro knobs to control the gain (it's been bugging me a little bit, not being able to control the gain physically), so I decided I would set it to change the gain when a modifier key is held down.

Sounds easy enough? Not in this case!

Here's the problem:
I'm out of buttons to set as a modifier key on my MIDI mixer, so I thought making a modifier key on the keyboard would be a good idea (in this case, I wanted to map it so "." acts as Modifier #1 when held down).

It seems modifier keys on the keyboard only affect the keyboard and not other devices like the controller! I thought I mapped it wrongly, so I tried again with a different key on my keyboard, but to no avail.

I decided to try deleting a button my MIDI mixer temporarily (for "troubleshooting's sake") and map that as Modifier #1 and what do you know? It worked!

Conclusion: Setting a key on your keyboard as a modifier (shift) key only applies to the keyboard and not your controller. This is either a feature in Traktor or they didn't just didn't need to do what I'm doing so they left it out.

I reckon it would be awesome if Native Instruments added a feature into Traktor where the user can pick whether or not the modifier on Device A will affect the mappings in Device B or not, or if they want to make it even more customizable, allow the option to pick which devices a modifier from another device can be applied to!

I even added a poll so you guys can vote as to whether this would be a good idea to mention to Native Instruments or not

tl;dr If you set a modifier key on the keyboard, it won't affect/apply to the controller.

Cheers!

PS, I spelt necessary wrong in the poll options ._.
Ethel Moraru
21.04.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
i believe they should:
Ahh yes, very good ideas there!

* add "global modifiers" that aren't scoped to any particular device at all (to solve your issue)
This would be even better if they allowed which devices to be blacklisted/whitelisted!
Kellie Myrum
21.04.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi

* extend the number of modifiers to something more sensible like 32 per Device
* extend the number of values that can be stored in a modifier
At least 16 would be fine with me, but 32 would be sick
Ethel Moraru
21.04.2012
Hey guys,

Today I thought I would add an extra feature to one of my M-AUDIO X-Session Pro knobs to control the gain (it's been bugging me a little bit, not being able to control the gain physically), so I decided I would set it to change the gain when a modifier key is held down.

Sounds easy enough? Not in this case!

Here's the problem:
I'm out of buttons to set as a modifier key on my MIDI mixer, so I thought making a modifier key on the keyboard would be a good idea (in this case, I wanted to map it so "." acts as Modifier #1 when held down).

It seems modifier keys on the keyboard only affect the keyboard and not other devices like the controller! I thought I mapped it wrongly, so I tried again with a different key on my keyboard, but to no avail.

I decided to try deleting a button my MIDI mixer temporarily (for "troubleshooting's sake") and map that as Modifier #1 and what do you know? It worked!

Conclusion: Setting a key on your keyboard as a modifier (shift) key only applies to the keyboard and not your controller. This is either a feature in Traktor or they didn't just didn't need to do what I'm doing so they left it out.

I reckon it would be awesome if Native Instruments added a feature into Traktor where the user can pick whether or not the modifier on Device A will affect the mappings in Device B or not, or if they want to make it even more customizable, allow the option to pick which devices a modifier from another device can be applied to!

I even added a poll so you guys can vote as to whether this would be a good idea to mention to Native Instruments or not

tl;dr If you set a modifier key on the keyboard, it won't affect/apply to the controller.

Cheers!

PS, I spelt necessary wrong in the poll options ._.
Ethel Moraru
21.04.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
i believe they should:
Ahh yes, very good ideas there!

* add "global modifiers" that aren't scoped to any particular device at all (to solve your issue)
This would be even better if they allowed which devices to be blacklisted/whitelisted!
Kellie Myrum
21.04.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi

* extend the number of modifiers to something more sensible like 32 per Device
* extend the number of values that can be stored in a modifier
At least 16 would be fine with me, but 32 would be sick
Chasidy Heckenbach
21.04.2012
the issue is bigger than just being related to the keyboard ofc. it's that modifiers are scoped locally to the Device that are mapped from. the offshoot is that if u run out of modifiers it's not biggie as u can just add a new Device linked to the same midi ports and u instantly have another 8 modifiers to use.

i believe they should:

* extend the number of modifiers to something more sensible like 32 per Device
* extend the number of values that can be stored in a modifier
* add "global modifiers" that aren't scoped to any particular device at all (to solve your issue)
* allow a modifier to be set from an OUT as well as IN (would allow stuff like multiple out's for the same midi note/cc to be mapped, i.e: for multi coloured hot cues since traktor will send out all values (even to the same note/cc) unless they are masked with modifier conditions)
* extend the "conditions" to include stuff like ranges and more than just two conditions per control

edit: voted 'yes' but on the basis that the poll is just about whether they should they extend the functionality of modifiers

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