Vestax SPIN Mapping for Traktor Duo/Pro
Vestax SPIN Mapping for Traktor Duo/Pro Posted on: 28.03.2010 by Jodi Lacerra Hello all,I've been working on a simple and clean Traktor mapping for Vestax's Spin controller together with Ean Golden for DJTT. The "SPIN Basic" mapping was designed to be able to work with Traktor Duo but will also work with Traktor Pro (it is a 2 Deck, 2 FX Bank based mapping). The mapping also employs a Fader FX mode and an Instant FX button in addition to other typical controls. The tsi and a labeled Mapping layout JPEG are attached with this post. Most functions should be self explanatory after viewing the mapping layout (especially if you are familiar with the VCI-100 mapping); however, if there are any questions please feel free to ask. Anything which was not labeled on the Mapping layout (e.g., the EQ faders) functions essentially as its original label. First off, I will explain a few things that may not be obvious from the layout. -The existing "Gain" faders control the 5 FX Presets (with corresponding LEDs) for each FX Bank. As you move the fader, the FX Presets will instantly change signified by the LED moving next to it. -FX Parameter1 is always dedicated to the Instant FX button. Currently, the Instant FX parameter is set to Beatmasher for every FX Preset (there will be different FX settings for different FX Presets in the future). While holding the Instant FX button, you can control the instant fx rate by moving the jog wheel. -FX Parameters 2 & 3 are reserved for Fader FX mode where touching the Jog Wheel will activate FX Parameter3, moving the Jogwheel will control the FX Parameter3 amount and the FX Dry/Wet, and the level fader will activate/control the FX Parameter2 amount and the FX Dry/Wet. In the future, the FX Presets and Instant FX settings will likely be tweaked to offer the best possible combinations; however, for now these should suffice. On that note, I've commented every line in the mapping for easy understanding and editability. For instance, the FX Presets are very easy to locate and change should you be inclined to. If enough Spin owners have interest in this mapping, DJ Techtools may begin creating overlays and upkeep an official mapping for the Spin controller so please share your thoughts and opinions! | |
| Jodi Lacerra 10.05.2010 |
Originally Posted by Glueeater
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| Maryrose Lindhorst 14.05.2010 |
Originally Posted by mrdenis
If I map a play button without mapping the LED associated with it, I can hit it as much as I want, it won't lockup. If I however, map the output to the LED, my controller will lock up after a while of hitting the play button. |
| Jodi Lacerra 10.05.2010 |
Originally Posted by Glueeater
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| Celsa Courtemanche 20.04.2010 | Indeed if the LED are not active, you won't have the problem. In the Controller Manager, at the top, simply do not select the SPIN as OUT PORT and you'll be fine. As for editing how to edit the range of the LEDs, it's not that difficult. For every LEDs (assigned to MIDI Out). Change the values for LED Properties until you find the correct values. LED_Range_Settings.jpg Take a look at what Oldfashionned already did and evolve from there. |
| Desire Kwiek 20.04.2010 |
Originally Posted by zacingraham
Those Volume Level Meters next to the Gain faders... the problem with those is that, if you want them working properly, you'll have to increase your buffer size in ASIO4ALL, which causes latency to increase, which is FU#KED! I believe that soon we'll be able to use the ASIO drivers that will come with the ugly, little, red Typhoon As for the ETA of the 4 deck map -> check the other thread. |
| Leann Roettele 28.05.2012 | Just to add my 2p, for Traktor I have the Spin as well and I am grateful to you guys for doing the mapping work for me. Please continue to develop it. Thank you Paul |
| Maude Milesky 22.05.2011 | I just bought a vestax spin and I am very disappointed to find such little support for other programs. The spin works great with the DJay software that comes with it but the software juswt doesn't do that much. I have been franticly searching the internet for a fully working and stable map/TSI for my SPIN but I just don't believe its out there. I am probably going to sell my spin because I am very new to DJing and I ACTUALLY WANT TO DJ!!! not spend all my time trying to figure this damn thing out. prolly gona get a vci 100 or a vci 300 just so i can have a stable platform to use that will allow me to start improving!!!! soo frustrating...!!! Keep this thread alive!!!! |
| Lachelle Lamo 24.12.2010 | A DJTT Traktor Pro official map for the Vestax Spin controller would be AWESOME! And an overlay included with the map would be filled with AWESOMENESS as well! You guys rock! |
| Ewa Bucior 22.12.2010 | flashflooder, will we ever see more to this mapping? Looking forward to it. |
| Parker Nankin 23.05.2010 | Hi Guyz, thanx 4 the quick reply to my last post. Im not sure if u can help me on this one but u never know. I was adjusting the touch sensor sensitivity on my vci100 when the little plastic screw came off (right deck). Now when i push the fader up on that dek it stops it playing and plays the left dek. I purchased the dek in Switzerland Zurich on friday last week but im now in Macau,China (on tour). Im ment to be on stage toevening performing with the band (scratch Dj) but i can not use this bit of kit like this.. Im starting believe i should of stayed with my cdj1000s... What can i do to solve this issue? Is there any work around to get it back to the factory setting? Regards, Rjscratch. |
| Maryrose Lindhorst 14.05.2010 |
Originally Posted by mrdenis
If I map a play button without mapping the LED associated with it, I can hit it as much as I want, it won't lockup. If I however, map the output to the LED, my controller will lock up after a while of hitting the play button. |
| Ewa Bucior 11.05.2010 | Headphone mix and mix volume would be great features. Would a cue mode be remotely possible? |
| Jodi Lacerra 10.05.2010 |
Originally Posted by Glueeater
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| Kristie Poree 08.05.2010 | I have set 6 FX controls for the keyboard for both decks A and B. the buttons for fx are from right to left: [Z] [X] [C] [,] [.] [/]. If your vestax freezes try adjusting the "Touch Sensor Levels" on the back of the controller and it should resolve any problems. NEED HELP: Can someone please fix microphone mappings so a mic can be used with fader and pitch control? Also can someone map the shift button on the Vestax controller to jump back to itunes other folders like it does in the djay software? Last, the needle buttons don't work. |
| Ewa Bucior 08.05.2010 | Will we see an update to this ever? I like this mapping…besides the freezing. |
| Celsa Courtemanche 21.04.2010 | Personally, I believe the Spin is only half-baked and could have stayed in the oven a bit longer... Sure, it is well built and works great with DJay,It just feels to me that they rushed it out believeing that they could fix the problems later (i.e. The Typhoon). The shortcomings (like the MIDI LED issue and the fact that you have to jump through hoops to get the soundcard working properly on PC) are a bit overwhelming for a big company like Vestax. Nobody thought that users may want to use a cool looking MIDI controller with other softwares and under Windows ??? |
| Keisha Snoberger 20.04.2010 | Thanks DJ Phatso for the quick reply. I will definitely take a look at that chart and check out the values oldfashioned used. I just wish I could check all this out without buying the Spin first, but I believe that I'm going to buy it because if it doesn't work out, I can just disable the LEDs anyway. Just a few more questions: I would be changing the MIDI Range correct? Would a positive or negative change matter? And would you recommend the Spin? This would be my first controller, and I really need one to improve my performances. PS. Again, thanks a ton for the help. |
| Celsa Courtemanche 20.04.2010 | Indeed if the LED are not active, you won't have the problem. In the Controller Manager, at the top, simply do not select the SPIN as OUT PORT and you'll be fine. As for editing how to edit the range of the LEDs, it's not that difficult. For every LEDs (assigned to MIDI Out). Change the values for LED Properties until you find the correct values. LED_Range_Settings.jpg Take a look at what Oldfashionned already did and evolve from there. |
| Keisha Snoberger 20.04.2010 | thanks for the explanation, and while i understand what you've said just now, i'm not so sure that i would be able to change the settings to stop the freezing myself without an explanation of that process. would you mind explaining how to actually modify all that stuff? i'm just really worried that having to push play in the middle of a performance would really ruin things. thanks again oldfashioned. edit: is there also a way to just turn off the LEDs? i'm assuming that having them turned off would be an easy solution to the freezing problem, but i would have no way of figuring out how to do that. |
| Desire Kwiek 20.04.2010 |
Originally Posted by zacingraham
Those Volume Level Meters next to the Gain faders... the problem with those is that, if you want them working properly, you'll have to increase your buffer size in ASIO4ALL, which causes latency to increase, which is FU#KED! I believe that soon we'll be able to use the ASIO drivers that will come with the ugly, little, red Typhoon As for the ETA of the 4 deck map -> check the other thread. |
| Keisha Snoberger 15.04.2010 | From reading the Traktor community
, I'm assuming that oldfashioned was able to fix the freezing problem in his mapping by changing the LED range. Can the changing of the LED range be done for any map to prevent feezing? oldfashioned, would you mind explaining the process you used for that, and do you have an ETA on your new mapping? Still trying to decide on whether or not to purchase the Spin. Having this map released will help for sure. |
| Desire Kwiek 16.04.2010 |
Originally Posted by DJ Phatso
MIDI range is indeed causing the freezing issues! I really need to get going now, but I will surely cooperate later! As some of you may know, I am currently working on a 4 deck version TSI, started completely from scratch, but I will gladly help with whatever I can here! I'll test this TSI later in the evening! Cheers guys and c u soon! |
| Celsa Courtemanche 15.04.2010 | The "freezing" problem, as it was mentioned on this community
and others, is related top the LED range, and will occur with any MIDI applications if you enable both MIDI IN and OUT. oldfashioned (known as Architech on the Traktor community ) was able to correct this issue by changing the LED range in the Traktor MIDI config, as explained in this thread: http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...d.php?t=101836 |
| Leo Lewis 15.04.2010 | I have realized a Def & mapper for Virtual DJ and I don't see any freeze on it, I have mapped also the vu meter leds without problems, I believe traktor have some "funnel" limit problem on the midi IN/OUT but the controller have no one problem. |
| Ewa Bucior 14.04.2010 | Mine freezes a lot on me with Traktor 1.2.4 on my Macbook Pro. No gain faders? |
| Keisha Snoberger 14.04.2010 | I've been reading the threads on this TSI and the other one created by oldfashioned: http://www.djranking
s.com/community
/sho...d.php?t=103722 and I've noticed there have been talks of the Spin freezing on people. I'm in real need of a MIDI controller and I'm seriously considering getting a Spin if I can learn more about this freezing issue. What exactly happens when it freezes, does Traktor freeze as well or is it just the controller? Can it be fixed easily, what are some ways to prevent it, etc.? Also, if any of you have tried out the other mapping, which one did you like more? This one or that one? Thanks everyone. Edit: Link won't work. Maybe this will this time: http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=10372 |
| Ewa Bucior 03.04.2010 | Ordered my Spin back in February...lol. Hope to try this and oldfashioned's TSI out later. |
| Virgie Igler 01.04.2010 |
Originally Posted by MeAngry
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| Virgie Igler 01.04.2010 |
Originally Posted by flashflooder
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| Amos Gmeiner 01.04.2010 | That's really weird. I can easily reproduce a crash by just hitting the play button repeatedly. It will crash eventually. If I won't do it on purpose but am doing a set, it happens in about an half hour, and after that every few minutes. Makes me want to sell it and buy a VCI-100 and get over with it... |
| Harland Filipponi 01.04.2010 |
Originally Posted by MeAngry
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| Amos Gmeiner 01.04.2010 | I'm pretty sure he's using a Mac, just like me... I've already found out with other controllers that OS X's tighter MIDI timing isn't always working in it's advantage. I've had a Reloop controller which refused to light up 2 or more LED's at the same time because of that. On Windows (whichever version) there were no problems at all. It seems this problem may also be related to that. |
| Harland Filipponi 01.04.2010 |
Originally Posted by mrdenis
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| Amos Gmeiner 01.04.2010 | Every mapping has locked up for me, even self-made ones with just the play button mapped. It's because of the output signals. If I map a play button without mapping the LED associated with it, I can hit it as much as I want, it won't lockup. If I however, map the output to the LED, my controller will lock up after a while of hitting the play button. |
| Velma Taguchi 31.03.2010 | I'm definitely interested in a fully stable tsi for the Spin. I've had a play with Oldfashioned's but unfortunately it's locked up on me a couple of times so I'm probably not going to run with it out live. I'm surprised nobody has been able to extract a mapping from the Typhoon yet - I know they're not on sale but they are doing the shows. In the meantime it's either Traktor and a mouse or DJay and the Spin for tomorrow evening ! |
| Amos Gmeiner 31.03.2010 | Looking at the work oldfashioned has done in his topic, this problem seems to be related with the LED's next to the gain faders. If you disable sending output to those LED's everything works as intended. I've tried playing with your TSI yesterday without touching the gain faders, and it still locked up after half an hour. You can "resurrect" it by clicking on the play button, but that's not very useful when playing a set is it. ;-) Besides that, you've made a very nice mapping! Kudo's! |
| Jodi Lacerra 30.03.2010 |
Originally Posted by Mr530
I'm very curious though to see how consistent the controller freezing up issue is with other Spin users. If anyone tests it out, please share your input. |
| Malika Gise 30.03.2010 | your trick fixed it. But what is causing this? I could see this being terrifying during a performance! (I am new to DJing, but I would love to help with the mapping. I need to learn about mapping, modifiers, etc, after this semester is over) |
| Jodi Lacerra 30.03.2010 |
Originally Posted by Mr530
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| Malika Gise 28.03.2010 | this is non responsive for me any time I try and play with the gain faders (the center two faders) thank you for your hard work! hopefully we will be able to get this similar to the vci mappings level! |
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