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What are you looking for in a Novation Launchpad mapping? Posted on: 20.07.2012 by Zana Chevallier So to start off: i am making a novation launchpad mapping and i already have some functions mapped...it is a two deck mapping , 16 buttons for effects (12 of them are group effects and four buttons are mapped for single effect) . Also i have 8 hotcues per deck, create loop with loop size adjust, loop recorder, snap and quantize, play, cue, load next selected, tempo sync, basic track browsing.So reason for posting: i am trying to figure out what people want to get out of the novation launchpad. What features would you like to see, or some interesting thoughts. I will work on the mapping and allow it for download. Thank you for any and all inpit! | |
Nana Mohs 25.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
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Chasidy Heckenbach 24.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by muffintop
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Nana Mohs 24.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Razzlesnaz
FTW Aurex has some great stuff for the launchpad. Worth checking out. Also, no M4L required http://www.aurexmusic.com/launchpad |
Chasidy Heckenbach 23.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Jhamilton831
checkout some of stewe's other posts for a heap of neat tricks you can do directly in traktor when mapping he's posted a bunch of cool tips and tricks to this thread for example http://community .djranking s.com/showthr...=23910&page=27
Originally Posted by Stewe
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Kellie Myrum 23.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
When working on mapping I put it on paper first and see what I need every part of mapping to do. While adding commands I can already know all assignments for say some FX combination, I like to add "Unload" which I don't map or use for anything except to type in comment for what comes next to be added to mapping, kind a note. I add one new unload after each new part of mapping to keep it more organized that way. When click on any unloads it will all highlite so when scrolling down mapping I can easily know way trough list. |
Chasidy Heckenbach 22.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=206
It was only one midi generic with all modifiers burned. I haven't know then that I can add more devices to mapping I'm believeing to update it to 2.5 shouldn't be much work just to add FX store preset and some new tricks to performance mode.
Looking forward to see some update on this mapping for Lounchpad we were talking bout! I would like to see where this idea goes.
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Chasidy Heckenbach 22.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
you do come up with some amazing mappings in traktor so i can understand why you'd want to stick with mapping that way. i only bought traktor just over a year ago i believe, before that all my dj'ing was on turntables. i loved that u could customize traktor mappings but being a coder i hate having to use gui's anyway so wanted a different way of mapping. bomes looks good but very fiddly to do anything really complex. i did buy midikatapult which was great but didn't allow any actual mapping within the app and was partly the inspiration for my midimasher. now i'm using mixxx i don't actually need to use midimasher if i'm not also hooking into extra samplers and/or ableton - but i like that a mapping i create using midimasher will work on mixxx and also traktor. |
Kellie Myrum 22.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
I call it DJTT mode because I fill it inspired by videos and tutorials that I watched, MF, VCI, S2 ofc jogFX can't sound exactly the same because of not sensitive encoder with low accuracy but I tried to make it as close to it as possible. I can't even imagine all things what midimasher can do, from your words seem powerful. It's just that I'm traktor user more then ten years and i like to stick to traktor mapping as long as I can perform what comes on my mind. I'm using only loopmidi when performing live for LED outputs and some simple automation. When I create mapping that is for community then I look it to be strictly in traktor. |
Chasidy Heckenbach 21.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Razzlesnaz
Originally Posted by Patch
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Nana Mohs 25.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
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Chasidy Heckenbach 24.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by muffintop
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Nana Mohs 24.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Razzlesnaz
FTW Aurex has some great stuff for the launchpad. Worth checking out. Also, no M4L required http://www.aurexmusic.com/launchpad |
Kellie Myrum 24.07.2012 | I believe it's all about feedback, and people obviously aren't sending many requests for this as further suggestion. Most of guys just open it when importing tsi, they don't need editor in fulscreen and faster scrolling. They are concentrating more on issues and fixes should be priority. Isn't like they don't need bigger team working on suggestions at same time. Thanks man! I'll be posting one more video tomorrow. It's about BCD3000 super fader. |
Chasidy Heckenbach 23.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Jhamilton831
checkout some of stewe's other posts for a heap of neat tricks you can do directly in traktor when mapping he's posted a bunch of cool tips and tricks to this thread for example http://community .djranking s.com/showthr...=23910&page=27
Originally Posted by Stewe
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Kellie Myrum 23.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
When working on mapping I put it on paper first and see what I need every part of mapping to do. While adding commands I can already know all assignments for say some FX combination, I like to add "Unload" which I don't map or use for anything except to type in comment for what comes next to be added to mapping, kind a note. I add one new unload after each new part of mapping to keep it more organized that way. When click on any unloads it will all highlite so when scrolling down mapping I can easily know way trough list. |
Zana Chevallier 22.07.2012 | Well i never thought there was so much to mapping lol. I thought i was the bees knees for making a simple mapping with a few modifiers and some effects. Theres a lot of work that needs to be done and a lot of learning! |
Chasidy Heckenbach 22.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=206
It was only one midi generic with all modifiers burned. I haven't know then that I can add more devices to mapping I'm believeing to update it to 2.5 shouldn't be much work just to add FX store preset and some new tricks to performance mode.
Looking forward to see some update on this mapping for Lounchpad we were talking bout! I would like to see where this idea goes.
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Kellie Myrum 22.07.2012 | You are lucky man then. I can only dream of turntables. I was mostly using external mixers and my keyboard mapping for years and about two years I bought my first controller, I come to home, open it, install and everything and it didn't work. I remember it took me few days to figure out only how to setup. Traktor pro changed it all. It was godsend! I created one basic 2 deck mapping with four effects with no problems since I was doing mappings for keyboard for long time. Then I saw guy on youtube using modifier to create browser mode. It was in traktor since ever and I didn't know what modifiers are for and simply never used it before. I tried it and it worked. So it took me a few months till I actually figure out that I can use that toggle modifier to use four decks, that was awesome. Then I start to modify it further and in that time fader fx was promoted with VCI-100 SE and it was big inspiration to do something like that for my mapping. Then I started to mix between effects and did a lot of practice on those. After that I had my first mapping which I called it advance because it was pretty complex to me in that stage. http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=206 It was only one midi generic with all modifiers burned. I haven't know then that I can add more devices to mapping I'm believeing to update it to 2.5 shouldn't be much work just to add FX store preset and some new tricks to performance mode. Looking forward to see some update on this mapping for Lounchpad we were talking bout! I would like to see where this idea goes. |
Chasidy Heckenbach 22.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
you do come up with some amazing mappings in traktor so i can understand why you'd want to stick with mapping that way. i only bought traktor just over a year ago i believe, before that all my dj'ing was on turntables. i loved that u could customize traktor mappings but being a coder i hate having to use gui's anyway so wanted a different way of mapping. bomes looks good but very fiddly to do anything really complex. i did buy midikatapult which was great but didn't allow any actual mapping within the app and was partly the inspiration for my midimasher. now i'm using mixxx i don't actually need to use midimasher if i'm not also hooking into extra samplers and/or ableton - but i like that a mapping i create using midimasher will work on mixxx and also traktor. |
Kellie Myrum 22.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
I call it DJTT mode because I fill it inspired by videos and tutorials that I watched, MF, VCI, S2 ofc jogFX can't sound exactly the same because of not sensitive encoder with low accuracy but I tried to make it as close to it as possible. I can't even imagine all things what midimasher can do, from your words seem powerful. It's just that I'm traktor user more then ten years and i like to stick to traktor mapping as long as I can perform what comes on my mind. I'm using only loopmidi when performing live for LED outputs and some simple automation. When I create mapping that is for community then I look it to be strictly in traktor. |
Chasidy Heckenbach 23.07.2012 | possible but completely impractical, esp as all buttons/modifiers would need to be toggles and untoggle any other layer change toggle when one is activated. you'd also then not have any modifiers for normal mapping tricks. with midimasher sitting between the launchpad and traktor you're only limited to how many ways u can believe of selecting page/layer switches and it handles all the 'out's for you on layer changes - so won't get tangled up in any traktor issues there. there is still a limit ofc to how many pages/layers you can map using just one midi device in traktor - but with 16 channels of 128 values and only needing 64 for the main grid that's a lot of potential pages best to leave channel 1 alone as then that can be used to route the launchpad data unchanged so that any normal launchpad tsi can be used on it too, but that ofc still leaves 30 pages that can be mapped, which is probably enough and ofc, like u said, that can be expanded by adding extra midi devices in traktor, so adding each extra one of those would give an additional 32 pages (as we wouldn't need to reserve the launchpad default one for any others) i've also created a mapping that uses the arrow buttons to scroll a much larger grid around the 8x8 launchpad one, works nicely for clip launching and stuff, but less use in traktor probably. i was believeing of making user1 and user2 toggles, that ensure only one is toggled on at a time and when both are toggled off then the launchpad is back into vanilla mode and just routing the standard midi to and from traktor. the right hand column of buttons would light up in red when one of those user1/user2 modes were selected and the current 'page' from that bank lit up in yellow and it would remember the currently selected bank so when u hit user1 or user2 again you'd be back on the same sub page you were before. the real power of using midimasher tho with a launchpad is to also do the actual traktor mapping in midimasher code, makes selecting colours of the buttons for off and on states really easy and stuff like 'loop' controls like we discussed on that other thread very simple and all work exactly as they should. this bit of code creates a shift button and loop controls for decks a+b on page 1 of the launchpad. full led feedback on loop length etc even if the loops are changed in traktor or from another controller, loops are in "hold" mode unless the shift button is also pressed in which case they toggle. hold_modifier("lp", "trkon", 1, lp_hi_yellow, lp_lo_green, "shift") loop_sizes = { "/8", "/4", "/2", "1", "2", "4", "8", "16" } traktor.loops("launchpad", grid("6,0", "7,3"), 1, lp_hi_green, lp_lo_green, "shift", "a", loop_sizes) traktor.loops("launchpad", grid("6,4", "7,7"), 1, lp_hi_green, lp_lo_green, "shift", "b", loop_sizes) |
Kellie Myrum 22.07.2012 | It might sound totally insane but number of modes in traktor can go up to maximum of 64 in one lounchpad mapping. Those upper eight round buttons can handle main eight banks and other eight on the side can be mapped like another eight banks inside of every main bank. If there is another modifier state in traktor with value 8 this mapping would require eight MIDI generic devices to work properly, but with currently 7 it makes it more complicate then it already is. I know no one will ever map it all, only giving example This come when we speak about only eight banks too. You can easily map seven banks with one modifier because there are values 1-7 but when adding this eight bank you need to set another modifier in grid to do the trick. |
Brunilda Kora 21.07.2012 | Let me know if you do!!!! |
Chasidy Heckenbach 21.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Razzlesnaz
Originally Posted by Patch
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Zana Chevallier 21.07.2012 | Either way its a cool idea i believe i might try that |
Jeannine Drobney 21.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Jhamilton831
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Zana Chevallier 21.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Patch
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Zana Chevallier 21.07.2012 | BTW im using traktor pro 2 |
Zana Chevallier 21.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by Razzlesnaz
http://us.novationmusic.com/communit...ep-sequencer-0 |
Brunilda Kora 21.07.2012 | I'd love to see a User 2 bank, that just had 8 ages of blank buttons so that they could be mapped to anything. Effectively giving you 8 Launchpads. If you wanted to go wild, you could do the same for User 1, and end up with 16 Launchpads! |
Jeannine Drobney 21.07.2012 | I would love a launchpad step sequencer for ableton. This way I could program in my beats like the Roland TR-909. |
Chasidy Heckenbach 21.07.2012 | you didn't say what app you were mapping to - but makes no odds i guess - this is the description for the two page mapping i created for mixxx: top left arrow keys for track/library browsing top right 'mixer' button toggles to the mixer page bottom right is a shift button and above that a 2nd shift button main grid the main grid is split into two halves, one for each deck. each half is mapped the same row 1: quantize, keylock, headphone cue, load row 2: 2 flanger buttons and 2 gator buttons row 3: loops 1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 row 4: loop in, loop out, loop exit/retrigger, deck reverse row 5: hotcues 1-4 row 6: hotcues 5-8 row 7: cue, reset pitch, pitch down, pitch up row 8: play, sync, pitchbend down, pitchbend up shift + hotcue = delete hotcue shift2 + hotcue = needle drop for quickly scanning through a track shift + sync = adjust beatgrid with the deck playing: pitchbend = normal pitchbend shift + pitchbend = pitchbend more when the deck is not playing: pitchbend = forward wind/rewind thru the track shift + pitchbend = very fine fwd/rew to help align beatgrids main grid (mixer mode) the mixer page basically consists of 8 columns of virtual faders ala ableton live. col 1-3: deck A low/mid/high virtual eq faders with eq kills at the top col 4: volume deck A col 5: volume deck B col 6-8: deck B low/mid/high virtual eq faders with eq kills at the top it's partly a port of my midimasher mapping for the launchpad with traktor |
Zana Chevallier 20.07.2012 | The only thing that i ask is to subscribe to my youtube and im trying to get 50 subscribers so when i get those i believe thats when i will release my mapping...thanks for the input and for saying im awesome haha. Please help me get 50 subs and ill give u my mapping thank you |
Merideth Garnder 20.07.2012 | That is awesome! I believe you covered most of what's been challenging for me when mapping the launchpad. You're awesome! |
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