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How to Blink Track End Warning
Posted on: 25.08.2012 by Royal Acoba
What I need to change here
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to blink track end warning.

Thanks
Kellie Myrum
14.09.2012		Here is tsi:

End warning bcd.tsi

It's mapped for deck B and button that indicates is right Cue "D#1"
Nichol Pfau
11.09.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Glad you solve that. One thing is odd, how your button sends midi CC? That's what faders do in bcd.
Hey stewe,

thx for replying. I believe I don't get your question/answer (Maybe you mean that the Phones Mix has the same CC-Number, also CC0017 - That confuses me as well, but it's also the MIDI CC no for the Left CUE Light)

To make it more clear:
First of all the Track End Warning now works with the following:
"Track End Warning, OUT, DECK A, OUTPUT, Ch01.CC.0017"
So the light of my left CUE Button (DECK A) turns on now when Track End is recognized. That's cool, but still I was not able to reproduce your settings with the flashing light.
My configuration is as follows:
- "Track End Warning, OUT, DECK A, OUTPUT, Ch01.CC.0017"
- "Modifier#1, IN, GLOBAL, DIRECT, Ch01.CC.0017, M1=1" -> (Type=Button, Interaction=Direct, SetToValue=1)
- "Beat Phase, OUT, DECK A, OUTPUT, Ch01.CC.0017, M1=1" -> (Range=-0.05000 to 0.10000, MidiRange=0 to 127)

With this it's not working, but when I remove the Modifier#1 and the TrackEndWarning and the Conditions from BeatPhase, the CUE light is blinking. So the blinking of the BeatPhase and the Range should be right.
I don't know what's wrong, but could it be that TrackEndWarning is continually sending a 1 (on-signal) to the CUE light, so that it will not listen to the BeatPhase Command?

Hopefully you can help me to figure it out and get it working. Would be great!
Nichol Pfau
11.09.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Track end warning is not defined with blinking LED state, instead it send just on/off massage as Yul said. I saw this question before. How I managed this to work is to set modifier (with output) and beat phase (with it's ModCon) on same button where your end warning LED is mapped. When track reach end zone LED switch on (normally) and then set modifier to value 1 (or whatever) and then blink become activated. But. It worked well for my bcd3000 but this other guy couldn't make it to work on his controller.
Hi,

I was trying to build somehow the same. But it seems that I don't even get the "Track End Warning" to work to simply switch on the LED of a simple button. So what I want in the first place is to just switch the left Cue Button from Deck A CH01.CC.0017 (BCD3000) on, if the track in Deck A is going to end.
That's why a added and Output with the following:
"Track End Warning, OUT, DECK A, OUTPUT, Ch01.CC.0017"
-> that's what I have done. But it does not show up when the track is about to end (flashing red in traktor). Do I miss some easy step? Do I have to wait I listen to the whole song and not just jump to the end before it will work or sth. else?

Any ideas are welcome. And yes I also tried with different Lights (Synch, Scratch etc.)
greetings
funkypopcorn
Royal Acoba
30.08.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Take modifier 1 and map it to ch2.cc.42 where your end warning deck A is set and take modifier 2 and map it to some other button for deck B.
But I'm using M1 to control Deck A Shift Button.
Nichol Pfau
05.10.2012		hey Stewe,

sorry but I had not time the last few weeks. I'll try it out this weekend! thx a lot!!!
Kellie Myrum
14.09.2012		Here is tsi:

End warning bcd.tsi

It's mapped for deck B and button that indicates is right Cue "D#1"
Nichol Pfau
13.09.2012		 thx for keeping me motivated, but I do not have a lot of time in the following two weeks... :/
But hey, do you have a BCD3000? If so, can you post your mapping/.tsi file? Would be the easiest way I guess, so everyone can check how you did it.
greetings funkypopcorn
Kellie Myrum
12.09.2012		Hey funky don't give up! Mapping modifier to CC isn't be the same as mapping it to note in this case. You simply can't use CC to pick up modifier like that. Try to reinstall bcd and see what happens then, all control assignment should be in default and note for Cue A should be "G0" instead of CC.017 . If problem is still there then your bcd got an issue and that button can't be mapped properly and you need to try some other LED button instead.

Cheers
Nichol Pfau
12.09.2012		hey stewe,
thx a lot for trying to help me, but I gave it up now. I believe with my logic it should work, but it does not... Anyway at least I have some kind of an indicator now. My play button turns off and the Cue button turns on when Track End Warning is fetched. But of course it's not as cool as a blinking light.
thx anyway
Kellie Myrum
12.09.2012		Midi for left cue is note "G0" and you're right for CC.017 has been phones mix CC so it looks like your bcd is confused sending that same massage trough button... Also make sure bcd is in advanced mode and at what time is warning set to be activated (preferences >track deck)!!

As for settings you have posted everything looks fine. I didn't experienced issue with end warning in 2.5 or 2.5.1
Nichol Pfau
12.09.2012		I tried more stuff but still I do not get it to work...

Again my idea is:
1. I have a TrackEndWarning output changing the LED of the left CUE to light up when the track is nearly finished.
(It's strange but this only works when I have BLEND enabled, for some reason)
2. I listen with a Modifier input on that LED and when it turns to a 1 it should trigger the modifier and set a value.

right? or do I have a wrong understanding how modifiers and this stuff works?
Or is it possible that there is still a bug with the TrackEndWarning in Traktor 2.5?
Nichol Pfau
11.09.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Glad you solve that. One thing is odd, how your button sends midi CC? That's what faders do in bcd.
Hey stewe,

thx for replying. I believe I don't get your question/answer (Maybe you mean that the Phones Mix has the same CC-Number, also CC0017 - That confuses me as well, but it's also the MIDI CC no for the Left CUE Light)

To make it more clear:
First of all the Track End Warning now works with the following:
"Track End Warning, OUT, DECK A, OUTPUT, Ch01.CC.0017"
So the light of my left CUE Button (DECK A) turns on now when Track End is recognized. That's cool, but still I was not able to reproduce your settings with the flashing light.
My configuration is as follows:
- "Track End Warning, OUT, DECK A, OUTPUT, Ch01.CC.0017"
- "Modifier#1, IN, GLOBAL, DIRECT, Ch01.CC.0017, M1=1" -> (Type=Button, Interaction=Direct, SetToValue=1)
- "Beat Phase, OUT, DECK A, OUTPUT, Ch01.CC.0017, M1=1" -> (Range=-0.05000 to 0.10000, MidiRange=0 to 127)

With this it's not working, but when I remove the Modifier#1 and the TrackEndWarning and the Conditions from BeatPhase, the CUE light is blinking. So the blinking of the BeatPhase and the Range should be right.
I don't know what's wrong, but could it be that TrackEndWarning is continually sending a 1 (on-signal) to the CUE light, so that it will not listen to the BeatPhase Command?

Hopefully you can help me to figure it out and get it working. Would be great!
Kellie Myrum
11.09.2012		Glad you solve that. One thing is odd, how your button sends midi CC? That's what faders do in bcd.
Nichol Pfau
11.09.2012		Oh no, google helped me out now...

Seems to be a bug of my specific Traktor version 2.11.
"The out command Track End Warning no longer works.
Issue in: Traktor 2.1.1, added on October 4, 2011
Fixed in: Traktor 2.1.2"

So if anyone comes across the same problem, just upgrade to 2.1.2...
Nichol Pfau
11.09.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Track end warning is not defined with blinking LED state, instead it send just on/off massage as Yul said. I saw this question before. How I managed this to work is to set modifier (with output) and beat phase (with it's ModCon) on same button where your end warning LED is mapped. When track reach end zone LED switch on (normally) and then set modifier to value 1 (or whatever) and then blink become activated. But. It worked well for my bcd3000 but this other guy couldn't make it to work on his controller.
Hi,

I was trying to build somehow the same. But it seems that I don't even get the "Track End Warning" to work to simply switch on the LED of a simple button. So what I want in the first place is to just switch the left Cue Button from Deck A CH01.CC.0017 (BCD3000) on, if the track in Deck A is going to end.
That's why a added and Output with the following:
"Track End Warning, OUT, DECK A, OUTPUT, Ch01.CC.0017"
-> that's what I have done. But it does not show up when the track is about to end (flashing red in traktor). Do I miss some easy step? Do I have to wait I listen to the whole song and not just jump to the end before it will work or sth. else?

Any ideas are welcome. And yes I also tried with different Lights (Synch, Scratch etc.)
greetings
funkypopcorn
Kellie Myrum
30.08.2012		I'm only giving example with M1 and M2, you can use which ever is free in your mapping.
Royal Acoba
30.08.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Take modifier 1 and map it to ch2.cc.42 where your end warning deck A is set and take modifier 2 and map it to some other button for deck B.
But I'm using M1 to control Deck A Shift Button.
Kellie Myrum
29.08.2012		I made a quick video just to show you that it works and as you can see end warning will start to blink at -00:30 when waveform start to flash in red (screen).

Kellie Myrum
29.08.2012		Take modifier 1 and map it to ch2.cc.42 where your end warning deck A is set and take modifier 2 and map it to some other button for deck B.
Royal Acoba
29.08.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
You mapped both deck's end warning to one button ch2.cc.42? you need to use two buttons - one for each side.
No ch2.cc.42 is the track end warning output. M1 is mapped to ch3.cc.05 and M2 mapped to ch3.cc.30.
Kellie Myrum
30.08.2012
Originally Posted by Deniz343
It didn't worked. I created two output for track end warning. First one M1=1 ch2.cc.42. Second one M2=1 ch2.cc.42.
You mapped both deck's end warning to one button ch2.cc.42? you need to use two buttons - one for each side.
Royal Acoba
29.08.2012		It didn't worked. I created two output for track end warning. First one M1=1 ch2.cc.42. Second one M2=1 ch2.cc.42.
Royal Acoba
29.08.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Any luck on this?
I have no time to test it this week. I'll let you know when I do it. Thanks for your interest.

Best Regards
Kellie Myrum
28.08.2012		Any luck on this?
Kellie Myrum
26.08.2012		No modifiers 1 and 2 need to work separately for each deck.
Royal Acoba
26.08.2012		Last question about mapping modifier#2. Can I map MF2 to MF1(Shift Button).
Kellie Myrum
26.08.2012		Here is example for deck A:

Add in / Modifier 1 / direct / value 1
Add out / Beat phase / ModCon M1=1
Add out / End warning time

Everything mapped to toggle button.
Kellie Myrum
26.08.2012		Yes, if you want to use it obviously
Royal Acoba
26.08.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
You don't wanna use 0 for modifier condition because 0 switch of LED and you need modifier LED output to lite up. Instead of 0 use any value 1-7 which are LED positive. In that case you'll need to set two direct modifiers for each end warning (M1=1, M2=1).
Should I need to assign key for M2.
Kellie Myrum
26.08.2012		Yep, that's easy in VDJ. Still waiting for Traktor global beat monitor output.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
26.08.2012		songpos_remain 30% ? blink 400ms : off

Kellie Myrum
26.08.2012
Originally Posted by Deniz343
I tryed and created two Track End Warning LED. First LED mapped to Ch2.CC.42 and Modifier Condition is MF1=0. Second LED mapped to Ch2.CC.42 and Modifier Condition is MF1=1. And I assigned Modifier#1 to a button. What am I doing wrong. Should I create another Modifier with different settings.

Thanks in advance
You don't wanna use 0 for modifier condition because 0 switch of LED and you need modifier LED output to lite up. Instead of 0 use any value 1-7 which are LED positive. In that case you'll need to set two direct modifiers for each end warning (M1=1, M2=1).
Royal Acoba
26.08.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Track end warning is not defined with blinking LED state, instead it send just on/off massage as Yul said. I saw this question before. How I managed this to work is to set modifier (with output) and beat phase (with it's ModCon) on same button where your end warning LED is mapped. When track reach end zone LED switch on (normally) and then set modifier to value 1 (or whatever) and then blink become activated. But. It worked well for my bcd3000 but this other guy couldn't make it to work on his controller.
I tryed and created two Track End Warning LED. First LED mapped to Ch2.CC.42 and Modifier Condition is MF1=0. Second LED mapped to Ch2.CC.42 and Modifier Condition is MF1=1. And I assigned Modifier#1 to a button. What am I doing wrong. Should I create another Modifier with different settings.

Thanks in advance
Royal Acoba
25.08.2012		I will try modifier 2 (value 1).
Kellie Myrum
25.08.2012		Track end warning is not defined with blinking LED state, instead it send just on/off massage as Yul said. I saw this question before. How I managed this to work is to set modifier (with output) and beat phase (with it's ModCon) on same button where your end warning LED is mapped. When track reach end zone LED switch on (normally) and then set modifier to value 1 (or whatever) and then blink become activated. But. It worked well for my bcd3000 but this other guy couldn't make it to work on his controller.
Royal Acoba
25.08.2012		So what I need to do
Kecia Wnukowski
25.08.2012		I believe you don't here, the led output is 0/1 . It's not a blinking message.
Blend ticked is not necessary as it's a two way messages only (on/off).

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