iCon iStage Help

iCon iStage Help
Posted on: 06.09.2012 by Sharmaine Pellino
Hey DJTT!

I've just bought an Icon Istage 'cause I needed more mapable buttons for traktor, but It seems pretty hard to map this piece of hardware.
Does anyone have experience with this?

It looks like it is pre-mapped, and I don't know how to undo this so I can map all the buttons & LED's myself.

Anyone more experience with this?

Thanks.
Kellie Myrum
17.09.2012
Originally Posted by synthet1c
Hey Steve,

That is on PC, I'm not a fan of Mac's... I'm hoping anyone with traktor can confirm if the duplicate led's occur in traktor... It may just be an issue with VDJ, if that is the case I can ask the atomix dev's to look into it further because it is a good controller and I would have a definite use for it if it worked properly.
Ok, thanks for all your input! I did a bit of searching on the internet and I couldn't even find a nice review for this unit but appeals for help were all over it, very shite firmware indeed... I saw one vid on yt where some dude shows his traktor four deck mapping but it was german so I didn't understand a word, although he seem to got LED's working.

One more thing I was after is more information about four page buttons. I got no clue if those are midi mappable or it sends a different midi notes or same note trough other midi Ch by firmware?
Sharmaine Pellino
15.09.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Thanks for this!

What do you mean by it is premaped in traktor? Some example would be helpful.
Premapped, I mean it's not a blank template with which you can map every button and every LED.
The LED's are almost NOT mapable, and the DAW & Drummer can't be mapped.
Should save for a Launchpad instead I believe, after using it for a week
Kellie Myrum
07.09.2012
Originally Posted by WastedYouth
Its good, works well.
Thanks for this!

What do you mean by it is premaped in traktor? Some example would be helpful.
Sharmaine Pellino
07.09.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
How is the feel on the buttons? I'm believeing of getting one to replace my pc kryboard shortcuts...
Its good, works well.
The mapping is a pain in the ass tough
Sharmaine Pellino
06.09.2012
Hey DJTT!

I've just bought an Icon Istage 'cause I needed more mapable buttons for traktor, but It seems pretty hard to map this piece of hardware.
Does anyone have experience with this?

It looks like it is pre-mapped, and I don't know how to undo this so I can map all the buttons & LED's myself.

Anyone more experience with this?

Thanks.
Darren Yurk
27.10.2012
Hey,

first attempt to map finished. Here's the result. Using Traktor Scratch Pro 2.5

NOTE: The iStage has to be in Traktor Mode! (can be set with iMap Software)

My Goal is to use the iStage for the new Remix Decks (if more functions get available for mapping soon), bc I dont need any Deck A or B controll.

Would be nice to have some feedback.
Darren Yurk
24.10.2012
Hey,

i recently received the iStage and start to map it now. Id like to use it for the remix decks (i know I can't access all functions, but still hoping ...)

Is anyone still trying to get proper mapping? I can upload my mapping here in a few days, if you want.
Kellie Myrum
17.09.2012
Originally Posted by synthet1c
Hey Steve,

That is on PC, I'm not a fan of Mac's... I'm hoping anyone with traktor can confirm if the duplicate led's occur in traktor... It may just be an issue with VDJ, if that is the case I can ask the atomix dev's to look into it further because it is a good controller and I would have a definite use for it if it worked properly.
Ok, thanks for all your input! I did a bit of searching on the internet and I couldn't even find a nice review for this unit but appeals for help were all over it, very shite firmware indeed... I saw one vid on yt where some dude shows his traktor four deck mapping but it was german so I didn't understand a word, although he seem to got LED's working.

One more thing I was after is more information about four page buttons. I got no clue if those are midi mappable or it sends a different midi notes or same note trough other midi Ch by firmware?
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
16.09.2012
Hey Steve,

That is on PC, I'm not a fan of Mac's... I'm hoping anyone with traktor can confirm if the duplicate led's occur in traktor... It may just be an issue with VDJ, if that is the case I can ask the atomix dev's to look into it further because it is a good controller and I would have a definite use for it if it worked properly.
Kellie Myrum
16.09.2012
Hey synthet1c, so this issue comes with mac but have you ever tried it on pc?
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
15.09.2012
It's good quality construction and the buttons have a nice amount of resistance, but It is not very good to map.. The problem is that all the good functions are locked to mackie control protocol, so in traktor mode you lose the aftertouch and you lose control of both of the LED's.

How it works is you only get two modes. The button matrix mode only allows note on/off for the buttons and you can only control whether the button is red. The controller will however be split into two sides with blue and purple lighting that you cannot control or disable. The encoder is mappable, but the encoder push is not.

The other mode gives 12 virtual faders sending CC messages. to adjust the position you can either press the top two buttons to incrementally change the value or you can use the encoder on the side. The bottom two rows of leds show you the value of the last used virtual slider by lighting up in a bar.

The istage does have a midi editor that you can reassign the notes with if you need to change them for any reason, but it does not allow the full use of the LED's or the aftertouch function.

Finally I had a lot of issues mapping it in virtual dj as the midi out messages lit duplicate LED's in some instances. I tried contacting Icon about the issue but never even received a reply so gave up.

P.S. the mackie protocol is not HID so you can't use any middleware to get access to it, but I did find that to be able to use a button you first need to send the midi out to light the button then you can press it. I believe it is this way as it's designed for ableton. The launchpad is probably a better buy TBH as you can fully control the led colors which are important when creating complex mappings. Zestoi's midimasher is also essential when mapping it as it speeds up the reaction time of the device and allows multiple virtual pages.

>this is my thread on the VDJ Forum detailing the problem<
Kellie Myrum
15.09.2012
Does controller comes with some editor where you can create new template for midi CC? I didn't use ableton in a while but watching from software side I don't see the reason why you shouldn't be able to delete current preset from ableton and start new mapping.
Sharmaine Pellino
15.09.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Thanks for this!

What do you mean by it is premaped in traktor? Some example would be helpful.
Premapped, I mean it's not a blank template with which you can map every button and every LED.
The LED's are almost NOT mapable, and the DAW & Drummer can't be mapped.
Should save for a Launchpad instead I believe, after using it for a week
Kellie Myrum
07.09.2012
Originally Posted by WastedYouth
Its good, works well.
Thanks for this!

What do you mean by it is premaped in traktor? Some example would be helpful.
Sharmaine Pellino
07.09.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
How is the feel on the buttons? I'm believeing of getting one to replace my pc kryboard shortcuts...
Its good, works well.
The mapping is a pain in the ass tough
Kellie Myrum
07.09.2012
How is the feel on the buttons? I'm believeing of getting one to replace my pc kryboard shortcuts...
Josef Modine
06.09.2012
Can't you remap it using the midi learn function? thats how i remapped my RMX. you just highlight the function you want and press the button on the controller you want to use for it

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