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Z2, X1, F1, & MF3D Combination Mapping
Posted on: 24.12.2012 by kary lemay
Hi,

I just picked up a Z2, X1, F1, and MF3D after using one of the first VCI-100SE's. I've watched countless videos on how to control them separately, but the integration of them together is quite lacking--specifically the X1 & Z2.

The Z2 only has a Dry/Wet and Macro Effect knob for each channel, while the X1 obviously has a Dry/Wet & then three knobs for either 3 effects (group) or 3 parameters of 1 effect (single). Currently the Z2 & X1 'fight' over the first effect. I wanted to solve this by having the X1 on effects 1 & 2 and the Z2 on 3 and 4 (just used as 1 macro effect).

Also, I noticed that I the two other sets of big knobs for transport & looping are doubled on the Z2 (which uses only 1 transport knob with an 'A' & 'B' selection, but 2 loop knobs). Therefore, to avoid double usage, I thought I could assign those as macro effects knobs as well; however, they are endless knobs so I didn't believe this would work (any ideas on what else I could use them for?)

Overall I feel like my X1 is useless currently aside from a play button and two additional effects/each channel. I sold my DDJ-SX to get this as I assumed the integration of 3 NI products would be flawless, but I may have been wrong. Has anyone created a TSI mapping that addresses some of these questions of better integrates the X1 with the Z2 without doubling all the inputs?

I currently just have the F1 controlling the remix decks and know I can switch between 3 & 4. I originally thought that I was going to use the MF3D as the other remix deck, but after watching some videos I may assign THAT to control the effects that the X1 & Z2 aren't... I'm just a bit lost.

Thanks so much for everyone's help. I really appreciate it.
Jenni Tiano
27.12.2012
Originally Posted by dubyou
I made this exact mapping by the way! The knobs eq deck c and d with filter control, the buttons searve as eq kills On the outer part of the knobs, and it has access to turn on and off all 4 effects banks.

I just did an edit of '4 DECK TRAKTOR MAPPING FOR KONTROL X1' by Dj Devine Justice- which I mapped to control effects 3&4, I also did an eq and filter version but would rather have control of the 3&4 effects- got it the way i want but only issue is how to turn on and off all 4 effects banks or even just 3&4 instead of 1&2, because you can toggle 1&2 on all decks on the z2 anyway - how did you do it?
Dick Korus
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by enricoaqu
+1 currently looking or going to try to make a map that will use the x1 to control the eq and filters for the mixer of deck c+d, and also the transport for those decks. my setup is currently z2+x1+f1- just found out on z2 that if you hold shift and press rel/intl it plays track A or B. Went on the NI community and found out the manual for the z2 is in:Applications/Native Instruments/Traktor 2/Documentation/Z2
I made this exact mapping by the way! The knobs eq deck c and d with filter control, the buttons searve as eq kills On the outer part of the knobs, and it has access to turn on and off all 4 effects banks.
kary lemay
24.12.2012
Hi,

I just picked up a Z2, X1, F1, and MF3D after using one of the first VCI-100SE's. I've watched countless videos on how to control them separately, but the integration of them together is quite lacking--specifically the X1 & Z2.

The Z2 only has a Dry/Wet and Macro Effect knob for each channel, while the X1 obviously has a Dry/Wet & then three knobs for either 3 effects (group) or 3 parameters of 1 effect (single). Currently the Z2 & X1 'fight' over the first effect. I wanted to solve this by having the X1 on effects 1 & 2 and the Z2 on 3 and 4 (just used as 1 macro effect).

Also, I noticed that I the two other sets of big knobs for transport & looping are doubled on the Z2 (which uses only 1 transport knob with an 'A' & 'B' selection, but 2 loop knobs). Therefore, to avoid double usage, I thought I could assign those as macro effects knobs as well; however, they are endless knobs so I didn't believe this would work (any ideas on what else I could use them for?)

Overall I feel like my X1 is useless currently aside from a play button and two additional effects/each channel. I sold my DDJ-SX to get this as I assumed the integration of 3 NI products would be flawless, but I may have been wrong. Has anyone created a TSI mapping that addresses some of these questions of better integrates the X1 with the Z2 without doubling all the inputs?

I currently just have the F1 controlling the remix decks and know I can switch between 3 & 4. I originally thought that I was going to use the MF3D as the other remix deck, but after watching some videos I may assign THAT to control the effects that the X1 & Z2 aren't... I'm just a bit lost.

Thanks so much for everyone's help. I really appreciate it.
Dick Korus
26.12.2012
All I did was did a basic eq and kills, but I am adding moddifiers as we speak to control fx banks. A good way to do it would be add a toggle modifier on the "on" buttons above the eq kills.

For example-
Add a modifier (m1) M1=0; set value to 1
Duplicate it- M1=1; set value to 0.

What this will do is when modifier 1 isn't on it will turn it on and when modifier one is on it will turn it off.
And I would add out to both of these making when
M1=1 is on- set the led value to min 127, max 127.
When M1=0- set the led value to 0, 127. It worked for me but I had to mess with it a bit.

Then map a your second functions on the knobs adding m1-1 as the modifier conditions.
Don't use (m1-1) find a modifier value that isn't being used.
Jenni Tiano
27.12.2012
Originally Posted by dubyou
I made this exact mapping by the way! The knobs eq deck c and d with filter control, the buttons searve as eq kills On the outer part of the knobs, and it has access to turn on and off all 4 effects banks.

I just did an edit of '4 DECK TRAKTOR MAPPING FOR KONTROL X1' by Dj Devine Justice- which I mapped to control effects 3&4, I also did an eq and filter version but would rather have control of the 3&4 effects- got it the way i want but only issue is how to turn on and off all 4 effects banks or even just 3&4 instead of 1&2, because you can toggle 1&2 on all decks on the z2 anyway - how did you do it?
Dick Korus
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by enricoaqu
+1 currently looking or going to try to make a map that will use the x1 to control the eq and filters for the mixer of deck c+d, and also the transport for those decks. my setup is currently z2+x1+f1- just found out on z2 that if you hold shift and press rel/intl it plays track A or B. Went on the NI community and found out the manual for the z2 is in:Applications/Native Instruments/Traktor 2/Documentation/Z2
I made this exact mapping by the way! The knobs eq deck c and d with filter control, the buttons searve as eq kills On the outer part of the knobs, and it has access to turn on and off all 4 effects banks.
Dick Korus
26.12.2012
I use a z2 x1 Cuemaster setup right now but when my 3d comes in, I'm using the Cuemaster with ableton
Dick Korus
26.12.2012
Map the z2 endless encoders to function as jog wheels and with shift scroll faster through the Track to seek the position
Jenni Tiano
26.12.2012
+1 currently looking or going to try to make a map that will use the x1 to control the eq and filters for the mixer of deck c+d, and also the transport for those decks. my setup is currently z2+x1+f1- just found out on z2 that if you hold shift and press rel/intl it plays track A or B. Went on the NI community and found out the manual for the z2 is in:Applications/Native Instruments/Traktor 2/Documentation/Z2
kary lemay
26.12.2012
Nobody uses a X1 & Z2 together?

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